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Game 81: Part booooooooooo

Yeah, so this team is not playing very well right now.  But we must soldier on...

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Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry craigjoe

too slow.

ha that rhymes!

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

... or... NOT?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhhhhh man

i was first on my screen. then i refreshed and it was gone. it was nice while lasted though.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

refreshed, but disappointed

getting that first on the new thread was the best thing that happened to me today. that, and a 3.65% raise. assholes…

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

it was craigy-joe, and then got shortened to “gejoe” (hard “g” – none of this “soft’ crap!)

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

GEE-joe. dig it.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

and now you know

the rest of the story

Crolfer: that’s from Paul Harvey. You can go ahead and google his name, nothing inappropriate will come up, I assur you.

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

now I'm scared...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, im not even old enough to know Paul Harvey

was he a stegosaurus?

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIRST

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Third !

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

so

did Cory Patterson put on everyone’s uni and bat for them tonight, or just our lefthanders?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

wrong

Patterson is good for nothing. nothing at all.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great insult to injury I feel a Storm comin' on

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Great to see our shortstop playing such a great 2B

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's NoHo... Homer time

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

A NoHo Homer has to go BEYOND the infield grass

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha... like that'd ever happen...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey - it could and Adam Dunn might hit a HR right now!

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

RALLY CAPS?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

IM IN

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

ME 2

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait

let me get another drink, first

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

DUNN... is not...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOM BOOM CLAP

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

a high fly ball.......

on the infield.

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by xjjeep90 on Jun 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

IS IT JUST ME, OR DOES DUNN BREAK A BAT LIKE EVERY NIGHT?

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunner!!!!! Out of the infield grass - a Hopper HR

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Jr...good luck old man

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

... Yes... ish...?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

...not with that kind of attitude

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

just being honest

I was hoping he would, but very much doubting he would. Cynicism comes with age. (look it up, crolfer, it’s not a bad word)

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

sigh

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

beetle guts...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

this thread is a lot more enjoyable than the game

something’s wrong with that, right?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know

it feels a lot like the last 3 seasons

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure does.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marty: "Adam Dunn and KGJ are not run producers"

Um…they rank 2nd and 4th in RBIs on the team.

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by xjjeep90 on Jun 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

actually

the team is not a run producer

Dusty’s fault

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 27, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

crolfer: Marty is becoming senile

Marty: Adam Dunn and KGJ are not run producers.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is their VORP's?

Junya is well below average this season, especially for a #3 hole batter. gotta be amongst the worst in the league…

by obc2 on Jun 27, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slyde helped with a chart yesterday

our 3 hole is among the very worst in the league. the 1 and 4 are well below average as well. this falls squarely on the shoulders of Dusty the Jerk.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

none of the Reds are good this year

but Griffey is particularly bad compared to RF and 3-hole hitters.

JinAZ calculated that Griffey is producing at the level of a typical Triple-A player when you factor in his defense

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunn is 1 behind Phillips

and BP has had 56 more base runners than Dunn

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, BUT BP is a scrappy infielder who is batting cleanup - Just ask Dusty

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depression is omnipresent

But soldier on we must. The crappy old lefthander is once again talking about trading Dunn and Affeldt with him.
Oh greeat now Jerry Jr. hurt his thumb again..Christ on a hubcap.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

hey slyde, i broke my left thumb @ Moeller HS catching a ball

good times! Reminds me of Hairston on that last play.

i actually kept playing in LYO wearing a full cast and a LH mitt. Imagine a kid batting with cast today, lol.

by obc2 on Jun 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

and all of that was probably before you had discovered beer too, huh?

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

I didnt drink in HS. OU opened my eyes.

by obc2 on Jun 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i grew up downwind from OU

my district’s test scores are routinely below average. unfortunately, i never learned what cause and effect means.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

quid pro quo

below avg

EE, Hairston, Junya, Ross,

avg

votto

above avg

dunn, bruce, BP

not gonna win with that, folks.

by obc2 on Jun 27, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is why it is obviously all Adam Dunn's fault.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially since you left off Patterson

Jesus

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus? That's it!

We sign Jesus.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Lazarus = Macy's

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, Macy's bought Kaufman's.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

six

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

0

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Tm  Year Games
+---+----+-----+-----
 CIN 2006    14
 CIN 2003    10
 CIN 2004    10
 CIN 1998    10
 CIN 2001     9 
 CIN 2002     8 
 CIN 2005     8 
 CIN 2008     6 
 CIN 1996     6 
 CIN 1997     6 
 CIN 2007     6 
 CIN 1995     3 
 CIN 1999     3  
 CIN 2000     0  

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what i just posted... I just did it in binary.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not seeing the trend, Slyde-the-ghost-of-Christmas-yet-to-come.

Can you put that in a graph? And then can you extend the graph to the years 2008-2012 so that Uncle Scrooge will see what happens if he continues on this path?

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had my entire hand ripped of in a HS football game and played the rest of the game

they cauterized the stump and kept my hand in the water bucket…it was attatched later that week and at the end of the year I won an international piano contest. AND the REDS will win the world Series this year too

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

umping?

pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"

by dunnateher on Jun 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes... a few bad calls and they go all krazy

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well its about bedtime for old Mads...good to hear from the young Crolfer

Too bad about his innocence. It was bound to happen…. Good nite all

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

innocence schminocence

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

a blessing in disguise

2 down in the ninth

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hotdog champ has weiner juice on his fingers

pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"

by dunnateher on Jun 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya know

If Rick and Slyde don’t post a game thread tomorrow, will anyone care?

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Keppinger can flat out

delay the inevitable.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont get it slyde....

the cupboard is bare, i dont see too many options for Dusty.

Bruce is here. Cueto. Volquez. Votto. Bray and Burton have done well, as has Koko.

Its gonna be a long year…

by obc2 on Jun 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Options?

What about taking Bray out for Majewksi? Point is, Dusty will find options if they are there . . .

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

relying on the likes of Patterson, Janish, and Griffey

at the top of your lineup for extended periods of time is going to sink you pretty low. batting Dunn and Votto at the bottom of the lineup is another bad move. Dusty is just dumb.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're going to mention Griffey,

you may as well say Dunn, Bruce, and everyone else who comes to the plate. This is a good offensive team turned to mush by Baker.

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mention Griffey as a main offender because his OPS+ is a paltry 95 in the 3 hole

Bruce and Dunn have held their own. BP is doing pretty well for himself, but hitting in the 4 hole is just too far beyond him. this lineup is seriously fucked up, and it is all Dusty’s fault. i mean, the depths of his ignorance never cease to astonish. the dude has spent his entire life around the game and its like he doesnt know thing one about it. i half expect him to start instructing the hitters to throw the ball at the runner because “soaky is the only fun way to play”.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

*hitters should be fielders

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mean to defend Griffey, but he deserves as much a defense as anyone else.

What has Bruce done after the first 10 games?

After years of Bob Boone et al. jerking the lineup around when there was no reason to, Dusty at least sticks with lineups and gives the players the consistency that we needed from 2001-2007. Now we seriously need some shaking up, and he won’t do it.

Everything he touches turns to dogshit. I don’t want them to unload the players I like, but there is no other option than to blow it up. It’s a shame we fucked it up so bad while Dunn, Griffey and Kearns were here. But they’ll all be gone very soon.

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Griffey's defense is historically terrible

add that to the fact that he is OPS+ing 95 and hitting in the 2,3,4 hole this year and he has to take a good chunk of blame. dont get me wrong, i love the guy. im not of the Marty opinion that this team hasnt won since he got here all because of him (and Dunn), but this year his performance has been weak. and it is Dusty’s job to see that and move him down in the order. again, i dont blame the players as much as i blame the manager. this offense should be about league average but guys like Patterson, Janish, Jr, and Phillips have been hitting in spots they should never be hitting.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But really, you'd move Dunn and Bruce to 4 and 5?

How have they done more than Phillips? I don’t know why I’m arguing this because it’s pointless anyway. No matter who hits where, the manager has certainly convinced everyone that they stink (or at least he’s not doing the exact opposite, which is kind of his job).

I’m not quite sure what Griffey’s defense has to do with his hitting in the middle of his lineup. And (I realize I’m taking a free shot at something you didn’t really mean to say), but Griffey’s defense is actually among the best ever, historically.

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

as Slyde said earlier

BP has 1 more RBI than Dunn, but he has had 56 more baserunners. the dude is a good hitter for a middle infielder, but that does not make him the premiere run producer for the team. my point was that lineup construction has been disgusting this year. Griffey’s defense doesnt have anything to do with his spot in the lineup, but the fact that he is really bad at it doesnt help his case. when i said his is “historically terrible” i meant that his performance in the field this year has been historically terrible, not that his entire career has been terrible. obviously he was pretty good back in his day, but unfortunately a man with screws keeping his legs together cant play and effective RF.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillips

I wasn’t suggesting that Phillips was a star clean up hitter but rather that Dunn and Bruce have not exactly been very good.

by Brian B on Jun 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kepp hit!

Can we bat him again right now? With the Cleveland fans standing with 2 strikes . . . they just don’t know Keppinger. He can flat out avoid a strikeout.

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

ballgame

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by xjjeep90 on Jun 27, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

The Reds have now scored 1 run or fewer in 7 of their last 11 games

pathetic

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

They've averaged 6.5 hits a game for their last 16 games

They are batting .211/.296/.347 in June (before tonight).

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 27, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

In June, the Reds' OBP is under .300?

I think I am going to throw up. How do the people running the team look in the mirror every day?

by Brian B on Jun 27, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's my stab at it

Keppinger 2B
Votto 1B
Encarnacion 3B
Dunn LF
Bruce CF
Phillips SS
Griffey RF
Ross C
pitcher

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

you

just gave John Fay a heart attack.

"As it says over the door to the Famous Writers' School in Connecticut: A Sullen Drunk Packing A Gat Is Not The Best Company For An Artist Finicky About His Style."

by Pops Daniels on Jun 28, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are right

the offense is nowhere near the level it was a few years back. but that being said, there are a number of basic mistakes being made on a daily basis (in both lineup construction and hitting instruction) any one of us here at RR would never make.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 27, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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