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One More post about Adam Dunn

I've been a really big fan of Adam Dunn ever since he was in Dayton. he's my grandson's favorite player and my 98 year old Mother thinks he's sexy. As we know this guy has gotten very little love from Cincinnati. Now Mr. Bacardi, GM from the Toronto Jays has been dissing him...(Someone asked Dunn if he would give Ricciardi a hug on the field if he saw him."A bear hug," Dunn joked. "I have other things to worry about than that dude.")

Dunn is in a horrible slump: Over his past 17 games, Dunn was batting .111 (6-for-54), while his overall batting average dipped from .254 to .220. He has an over .800 OPS but has been so inconsistent that I think that he should actually be dropped in the line up to 7th. Although his BA is only.188 his OPS is over 1.000 when batting 7th (5 games, small sample size).  This is an option year  and Dunn should be having a career year, and well I guess actually he is...what I'm suggesting is that we stop looking at Adam as 'The Man' and just let him play. We can get more productivity from Votto and EdE by moving themup in the order. I'd love to see a line up something like this:

Kepp SS                                                                                                                                     Bruce CF                                                                                                                                    EdE  3b                                                                                                                                   Votto 1B                                                                                                                                     BP 2B                                                                                                                                              GriffeyRF                                                                                                                                                       Dunn LF                                                                                                                                     weak hitting catcher                                                                                                               Pitcher

I would like to see the young guys getting more PAs as this year is over as far as play off contention is concerned. Dunn is going be good for 40 dingers and 90 RBIs no matter where he is in the line up.Let Dunn and Old Man Griffey bring up the rear and see if the young guys can manufacturer some runs.

AND if the Reds are set on letting these younger players build a nucleus  for 2009, maybe, (just maybe) it is time to think about letting Dunn go. That is if anyone wants a guy who has no passion for the game, is lazy and strikes out a lot.

 

 

 

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Should the Reds move Adam Dunn from he 5th spot in the lineup?
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Your lineup is all over the place

BA-ZING!

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 23, 2008 5:14 PM EDT   0 recs

i think that is how dusty sees the lineup in his head

"I never should have given up the animation rights."

by BobbyO on Jun 23, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was channelling Coach Narron

kepp SS
Bruce CF
EdE #B
Votto 1B
BP 2B
Griffey RF
Dunn LF
Weak hitting Catch
Pitcher

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 23, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’d drop him down in the order

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jun 23, 2008 6:44 PM EDT   0 recs

I'd try moving him up

Maybe he’d do better with less pressure. If he just has to get on base, rather than get a big hit.

And he’s actually a pretty good baserunner, though you’d never guess it to look at him.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 23, 2008 6:59 PM EDT   0 recs

I've always wanted to see him get some action in the 2 spot...

Can he play shortstop?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 23, 2008 7:02 PM EDT   1 recs

chuckle....rec'd

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 23, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

brilliant

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jun 23, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Again I think this move is as much to take pressure off Dunn

as it is to let the young guys get as many ABs as possible and to let them get into the role of middle of the line up producers.
Wht not have -Bruce – EdE – Votto – BP as the heart of the order?

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 23, 2008 9:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Must........not.......make crass joke......

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2008 9:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh i see...'cause she said something about the two hole right?

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 24, 2008 9:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nothing gets by you

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2008 9:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Adam Dunn is one bad dude

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8276984/Dunn-doesn‘t-show-it-much,but-he-loves-baseball

Rosenthal talks to Dr. Poke’em, who attests to Dunn’s scrappiness and grit. i knew he had played through a number of injuries, but that bit about the broken hand pretty much floored me. i pictured Dunn looking at the Doc and, with a wad of chaw in his cheek, saying “I aint got time to bleed”.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 24, 2008 9:58 AM EDT   0 recs

It bugs me when..

players play with injuries. Look, I love that they have that burning need to play, but you are not always helping your team by going out there. You are not going to perform at the level you can and the team is going to suffer from it. Playing with a broken hand is just idiotic in my opinion.

I just never understood why players hide injuries.

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Jun 24, 2008 10:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i don't know

Paul Wilson and Brandon Claussen were aweseom when they gritted their teeth and pitched with bad shoulders.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jun 24, 2008 12:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i agree with your sentiment

but Dunn is a special case. his production has been steady, injured or not. but you are right. guys like Adam Dunn and Willis Reed are exceptions that prove the rule.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 24, 2008 12:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Trade Him...it now more obvious than ever he's a loser

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 24, 2008 10:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Another Dunn related thing

I heard yesterday that he was guy that called the banana phone during that rain delay Sunday looking for his horse, “Bruce from Maine”. I’m trying to find confirmation on that somewhere, because I don’t think it’s true, but if it is, that may be better than Adam from Milwaukee.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 24, 2008 10:15 AM EDT   0 recs

jch - Check the Tapes.

Can you check Sundays tapes while you are working today. :)

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Jun 24, 2008 10:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

time?

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2008 11:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

never mind, found it

Working on it now. Not him though, I’m pretty sure.

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Okay

I have the entire call as an mp3. If someone would like to host this puppy for me (only 4 MB), email me.

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

On it's way.

Shoot it my way. I heard a part of it yesterday but not the whole thing.. Maybe it wasn’t Dunn but jay BRUCE?

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Jun 25, 2008 10:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

today's Enquirer has a couple of articles about Dunn:

!st by Daugherty is beyond insipid
the 2nd About renewal is a no news on a slow day article.
You’ll have to look it up as i’m having linkage problems today.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 24, 2008 4:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Here's Daugherty's article.

Link.

An excerpt:

Meaning, what you see is what you get with Adam Dunn, and what you get can be very good. But he’s big and lumbering and strikes out a lot. That won’t change.

Neither will this: The Reds won’t win with him.

What a friggin’ assbag. He then goes on to give no plausible reason why the Reds can’t win with Dunn. Here’s the reasoning.

Even if you believe they can afford to spend roughly 15 percent of their payroll on a home run hitter (they can’t), the page needs to be turned. The Dunn-Griffey Era, for lack of a better term, hasn’t worked.

How is that Dunn’s fault? (Or Griffey’s, for that matter?)

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 24, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Some numbers

13th
15th
10th
16th
15th
15th
13th
14th

That’s the Reds NL rank in Runs Allowed during the Dunn-Griffey era (from 2008 to 2001).

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 24, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Which, obviously, is Dunn and Griffey's fault.

LLM has sure been here a long time, how come he gets a free pass? This is all LLM’s fault. There. That’s my Doc-like argument, and I’m sticking to it.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 24, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Where's Slyde to expliain why Ryan Freel has been the REAL reason behind the Red's failures

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 24, 2008 5:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually..

It is really Farney’s fault. I hope if Freel is traded he takes Farney with him.

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Jun 25, 2008 10:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You'd thin that dunn would get up for the B-jobs after Bicardi's rant

BUT NO THE GUY IS IN A HAZE- WAKE UP ADAM – CHRIST ON A HUBCAP – WAKE UP

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 24, 2008 10:40 PM EDT   0 recs

What mess...last night's game really demonstrated what a quagmire the Red's organization is.

It is not in a mess -the organization is the mess; not in a quagmire of a malaised stupor…no they are a malaised stupor. Look it up in the dictionary right below the words maliased stupor is a picture of the entire Red’s organization.I don’t blame those RRs who’ve taken a hiatus to be w/family or travel etc. maybe Alan, Andromach, RedMennace, JD etc etc etc – even Zach will come back with a fresh and invigorating point of view…but for now let’s just continue blaming Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey Jr. for the Red’s failures.

I, however, am going to visit my 98 year old mother and get her and Lloyd’s (her 105yr.old boyfriend) take on the whole thing. See you all later.
Mads

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 25, 2008 11:14 AM EDT   0 recs

Be sure to update us

On what moms & Lloyd think.

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 25, 2008 11:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Dunn-Riccardi saga continues

Adam Dunn called Riccardi to apologize. Only it wasn’t actually Dunn. Someone prank called him, and now its getting even more bizarre.

Or just amusing. But either way, its strange.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jun 25, 2008 2:08 PM EDT   0 recs

jch24 - I've stopped by my office on the way home from my Mom's

I’ll elaborate more later but:
Lloyd was in and out of reality tonight = during his lucid moments he ranted about how Dusty Baker was a terrible pitcher’s manager and Dusty was (somehow) responsible for the poor showing this year by Bronson and Harangatang.

My mother was really incensed after we had the 5 run lead and Toronto came back score 4 then next inning. her comment – What is wrong with this Herrin guy (Aaron Harang) – He’s need to get rested. Why isn’t a reliever up, as soon as he begins to have problems? She want the Reds to a good catcher who can hit and she convinced that Dick Pole doesn’t know anything about pitching.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 25, 2008 11:13 PM EDT   0 recs

I agree with everything both of them said

The results of the relief appearance by Harang this year has been eerily similar to the 130 pitch outing by Bronson last year. I also agree that Dusty simply ain’t worth a shit.

"Got a bump on the ole noggin, but otherwise god. And I get a new vehicle probably, w00t!"

by jch24 on Jun 25, 2008 11:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lloyd is really really old and fades in out of awareness.

In the 1920’s he was general manager of a medium level minor league team for a a couple of years, before he went into finance and got rich. I don’t know what team or where he was and I couldn’t get him to tell me much about that other than to say that today’s talent pool is quote” terrible, even with all the great black and Spanish players available’”. Lloyd is convinced that today’s players are better than the the guys in the old days but the number of teams and the kind of specialization that goes on now requires a much bigger small population to draw on than in the old days.And of course there aren’t as many athletes playing baseball. He blames this on the pro football! He has no use for Baker, partially because Dusty was a Dodger and partially because LLoyd really is convinced that Dusty has never had an original idea in his life.

As I said before my Mother is 98, never really became a fan until my Dad retired about 40 years ago and has really gotten interested over the last 18 years since Dad died. She is not an old schooler or is she a sabremetrician. She just loves the Reds. She is a big big big big big KG Jr. fan and especially likes following the pitchers. She has no use for Bronson Arroyo, partially because he is “so unkept” but she think he has a ‘silly’ windup. But she love Cutey Ceuto) and Eddie Vokest (Voltron) and she’s a big big big big Jay Bruce fan. Her reasoning is that these are the players who seem to be performing well. She definitely thinks Adam Dunn should be traded! He never hit in the clutch, or so she says. Can’t Keep Kepp and Jerry Jr. straight, loves Ryan Freel and hates all the catchers on the team I cannot have a logical discussion with her about line ups etc, all she cares about is what she knows “Get more good pitching and a good catcher and get a decent manager and we’ll be all right!” Pretty close to a direct quote. I think she’s been influenced by Lloyd.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 26, 2008 1:49 PM EDT   0 recs

I dunno

That seems like a pretty sound tonic to me. More good pitching, a good catcher, and a decent manager – Mom seems right on.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 26, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Moving Dunn up produced;

3 doubles
2 RBI
2 Runs
2 BB on balls
4 – 12 .250 average
5 Baserunners.

No rally killers!

Now if Dusty will just move Jr. Down a bit more and Votto and Bruce up.things could get interesting.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 1:14 PM EDT   0 recs

You kids and your newfangled math!

/madville

So hey, umm....do you guys mind if I have this fruit roll-up?

by chandrathan on Jun 27, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoops...Boolian algebra strikes agin!

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 27, 2008 3:47 PM EDT   0 recs

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