Cincinnati Reds @ New York Yankees GameThread, Jun 21, 2008 1:05 PM EDT

FIRST ML start for Daryl Thompson

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 21, 2008 11:34 AM EDT 0 recs

Do we know who they sent down to make room?

by D-Rock on Jun 21, 2008 11:43 AM EDT 0 recs

Jolbert to the DL

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

Lineup

Jay Bruce rf
Paul Janish ss
Ken Griffey dh
Brandon Phillips 2b
Joey Votto 1b
Adam Dunn lf
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Corey Patterson cf
Paul Bako c

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on Jun 21, 2008 12:04 PM EDT 0 recs

well this is stupid

ede 7th, and janish 2nd? and Patterson over Hopper again.

I may have to continue my arrested development marathon rather than watch this game.

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 21, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

At least you have the choice

I’m blacked out again.

by ken on Jun 21, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's racist!

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on Jun 21, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ugh

Just saw that Clogging the Bases had a monster night. Forgetting to set my rotation didn’t help.

by ken on Jun 21, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

blackout question

Will I be able to listen to the game through MLB’s gameday audio thing?

by D-Rock on Jun 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

I do think Patterson is better than Hopper. And you ARE supposed to put your worst hitter 8th. That still doesn’t excuse Janish batting second. Hopefully he can go 4-4 today too, though lord knows how.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

i'd put hopper at the top of the lineup

and move janish into patterson’s spot in the order…

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 21, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah, that'd work for me

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

cool

‘sup brendan?

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 21, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm going to the Nationals game tonight

It’ll be cool to see how Daryl Thompson does relative to Felipe Lopez. The other members of The Trade – Kearns and Wagner – are on the DL. Plus they’re playing the Rangers, so I get to see Hobbs again! Hopefully he does better than his 0-6 with 3 Ks performance last night.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

Volquez > Hamilton

last night. We win the trade!

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on Jun 21, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

small sample size!

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 21, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Building off what Charlie Scrabbles said last night

Let’s just think for a moment about how awesome Volquez is this season (and how meaningless wins are). He now has 10 wins, which ties him for second in the majors with Cliff Lee, Joe Saunders, Mike Mussina (not last night, buddy!), and Aaron Cook of the Rockies (how the hell…?). He’s only one win behind Brandon Webb. Kyle Lohse is third in the NL with 9 wins. What a stupid stat (except for showing how great Volquez is).

The one thing that Brandon Webb had over Volquez as a compelling reason to be the All-Star game starter was wins. But Volquez has whittled that down to a negligible lead. It’s basically a wash, especially because Webb has one more loss than Volquez. Volquez has 28 more strikeouts than Webb in four fewer innings and a much better ERA (1.71 to 3.27). If he’s not the starter, then there is no justice! In fact, a pretty good case can be made that Webb shouldn’t even start ahead of Tim Lincecum (8-1, 2.21, 95 K’s).

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

yeah its not even close

the only edge Webb has is in WHIP, and thats because he doesnt walk anyone. but Voltron’s walks dont bother me at all, because they never score. no harm, no foul. its been really strange watching him this year. no one hits the ball solidly off of him. no one. ever. is there anywhere that keeps stats on the kinds of hits pitchers give up? i dont know where to find it, but i bet his SLG against is Hopperific.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

Volquez's strand rate is 83%

That’s incredibly high and lucky. The walks are a big issue.

by Nick Papageorgio on Jun 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

aye, but he allows very few hits, especially home runs

So far this season, he’s very similar to Nolan Ryan. You can get away with walks if you still strike out a ton and don’t allow any home runs.

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on Jun 21, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

i dont think they look at strand rate when they pick starters for the all-star game

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jun 21, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah

but I’m not arguing that he shouldn’t start the All-Star game.

I’m saying the walks are a big problem.

He’s also been lucky on HR/FB%

by Nick Papageorgio on Jun 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

i agree with those points

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jun 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

kearns on the dl?

now i’ve heard everything!

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 21, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Who wouldn't do that?

Oh, right. Our manager.

by Brian B on Jun 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Also, from the Fay:

Andy Phillips is the emergency shortstop. Baker said the Reds will look at getting Jerry Hairston Jr. or Jeff Keppinger activiated shortly. Brandon Phillips won’t be playing shortstop. “The way that position is going,” Baker said. “I don’t think Brandon wants to play there.”

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on Jun 21, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

BTW

From 1956 to 2004, the Reds had 73% of the games started at shorstop by McMillan, Cardenas, Concepcion, and Larkin. In the 3+ seasons since Larkin retired, they’ve had 12 different starting shortstops, with only Felipe Lopez having started more than 100 games at the position. I’m calling it the curse of The BLarkino.

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on Jun 21, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ye gods

Andy Phillips at SS? o_O

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by BubbaFan on Jun 21, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

I first read it as "And Phillips is the backup SS," thinking it meant Brandon

Which made sense. This… let’s hope Kepp and Cherry can get back soon.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

wow

Dusty really has no faith in Dunner does he? it seems like the guy has a few bad weeks and he gets dropped in the lineup. conversely, CoPat can sit down in the outfield and eat his boogers for months on end before he gets relegated. what a butthole.

Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

don't forget

that Griffey still hits third and Brandon Phillips is still the cleanup hitter.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jun 21, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah, like the guy in the $5,000 suit is going to waste his time watching the Reds...

COME ON!!!

by D-Rock on Jun 21, 2008 12:08 PM EDT 0 recs

COMMON!!!

"I never should have given up the animation rights."

by BobbyO on Jun 21, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

Giese

From the NY Post:

The Yankees’ Dan Giese makes his big-league starting debut today – drawing the assignment because of the injury to Chien-Ming WangChien-Ming Wang .
Giese hasn’t started since June 1, and that was in Triple-A Rochester. Then, he hurled one inning before getting taken out so he could relieve for the Yanks two days later. Since May 27, Giese has thrown more than 41 pitches only once, when he fired 65 out of the pen on June 3.

“We’ll watch him closely,” manager Joe Girardi said of the righty’s pitch count.

This would be a good night to work the count, guys.

The article also has a choice Griffey quote about Yankee stadium:

“My favorite Yankee Stadium memory?” the Reds slugger said last night. “It’s leaving Yankee Stadium.”

Dude, let it go. Billy Martin’s been dead for years.

by ken on Jun 21, 2008 12:10 PM EDT 0 recs

He's still, he's still Kenny from the Bronx

Used to have a little, now he has a lot. He’s still, he’s still Kenny from the Bronx.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

what's the story there?

I thought he just hated the fans?

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jun 21, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

by all accounts

yankee stadium is the worst park in the majors

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jun 21, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

okay

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jun 21, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

Worse than Tropicana Field?

Yowzers.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

When Sr. played for the Yankees,

Manager Billy Martin supposedly kicked Jr. out of the clubhouse once. Something like that.

by ken on Jun 21, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

just read this on Reds.com:

Ricciardi also contacted Reds GM Walt Jocketty. The two previously worked together in the A’s front office.

“He called me before I had a chance to call him,” Jocketty said. “He was very apologetic and said it was a big mistake. The guy got him going on the radio. He told me he had been under a lot of stress lately, and said, ‘Quite honestly, I have to fire my manager and half the coaching staff tomorrow.’ He was sincere about it.” *

Oh how I wish we could change the quotation marks around in that one:

Ricciardi also contacted Reds GM Walt Jocketty. The two previously worked together in the A’s front office.

“He called me before I had a chance to call him,” Jocketty said. “He was very apologetic and said it was a big mistake. The guy got him going on the radio. He told me he had been under a lot of stress lately,” and said, “Quite honestly, I have to fire my manager and half the coaching staff tomorrow.” He was sincere about it. *

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jun 21, 2008 12:59 PM EDT 0 recs

And Dunn refused to accept the apology

That’s the best part.

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by xjjeep90 on Jun 21, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

Mark Feinsand

Has some interesting stuff in his blog.

If you didn’t get a chance to see Edinson Volquez pitch against the Yankees at the Stadium tonight, don’t worry. He’ll be back in the Bronx on July 15, probably as the National League’s starter in the All-Star Game.

This kid is good. Like, scary good. The comparisons to Pedro Martinez aren’t far off, watching him change speeds with his fastball and changeup while mixing in some pretty impressive curveballs. That doesn’t even bring into account the fact that he’s playing on a last-place team, he’s 10-2, and coming into an atmosphere like Yankee Stadium didn’t seem to faze him a bit.

What I also loved about watching Volquez was his energy. He’s 24, and he looks like a kid who is just having a great time out there. Striking out Melky Cabrera to end the seventh was definitely a big spot, but for Volquez, it was bigger than we realized.

You see, he and Melky grew up together in the Dominican and played Little League together. So pardon his fist pump after the strikeout (after all, no one knows more than Yankees fans how evil those can be, right?), he was just psyched to win the battle against an old friend.

He also reports that Andy Phillips and his wife Bethany are expecting their first child in September.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 21, 2008 1:02 PM EDT 0 recs

...putting to bed the rumblings that Andy Phillips can't score

What can you say about Volquez, other than how lucky we are to have him on our team. Then I look at Tim “The Enchanter” Lincecum, and at Drew Stubbs, and just kind of think wistfully about what might have been.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

Plus,

Webb should be with the Reds since he went to school nearby.

/Welsh

by ken on Jun 21, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

the braves are great at scouting their own territory

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 21, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

LOL

I’m really happy for Andy and Bethany. Their first pregnancy turned cancerous. They found out around Christmas 2005. For awhile it looked like they wouldn’t be able to save her fertility. Andy wanted to quit baseball to be with her, but if he had, she would have lost her health insurance. She had a rough time of it, not responding to the usual treatments, but she’s fine now.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 21, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up 0 recs