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Jays' GM Rips Dunn

JP Ricciardi, who already receives plenty of abuse from Toronto fans and the media, has sunk to new lows.  On a radio show yesterday he rejected a caller's suggestion to trade for Adam Dunn in spectacular fashion (HT to BBTF):

"Do you know the guy doesn’t really like baseball that much?" Ricciardi  said to the caller. "Do you know the guy doesn’t have a passion to play the game that much? How much do you know about the player?  There’s a reason why you’re attracted to some players and there’s a reason why you’re not attracted to some players. I don’t think you’d be very happy if we brought Adam Dunn here …. "

The caller, who pointed out that the Jays sorely need a power hitter, was spot on.  They currently rank second-to-last in the AL in both HRs and SLG.  Their LF is a mix of Brad Wilkerson, Kevin Mench, and Shannon Stewart.  Their DH is Matt Stairs, a 40 year-old who's returned to earth after a flukish '07.  If this team couldn't use Adam Dunn I don't know who could.  But where could they find a power hitter with excellent plate discipline?  Oh wait ....

F#@% JP and the horse he rode in on.

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Real interesting...

How after stinking it up in Toronto, Frank Thomas (another guy who JP probably thought didn’t like baseball much) is hitting .319/.417/.516 over 29 games after going back to Oakland.

Then again, the Reds are in no position to make fun of the management of any other organization, what with the Toothpick in there as manager.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jun 19, 2008 9:57 AM EDT   0 recs

Oh, we can still make fun

My beef is that another GM disparaged our player, one that we may be shopping. I thought the tampering rules prevented teams from commenting on other other players. Maybe they don’t apply here, I don’t know. But this certainly doesn’t enhance Dunn’s trade value. I’ll be sorely disappointed if Jocketty doesn’t raise hell.

by ken on Jun 19, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Someone needs to interupt Jocko and Dusty's card game and let Walt know what's going on.

Seems like everytime something concerning the players occurs, Walt refers to the fact that he and Dusty haven’t gotten around to knowing much about the guys on the roster yet.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 19, 2008 11:08 AM EDT   0 recs

Dunn's response is strong.

Via C. Trent:

I don’t know the clown. I don’t know, and you can use the word ‘clown’ if you like.
I’ve seen it, I haven’t heard it. I really don’t care what one guy thinks, to be honest with you. If I’m a G.M., I don’t know that I’d go out of my way to discredit a player—if I’m a player. He’s obviously won more than me, I guess. Or hasn’t. I know nothing about him.

The players didn’t say anything, it’s just some clown sitting in a front office pushing paper. I don’t play for any other reason than the guys here. I’ve said it all along, it doesn’t bother me what people say or think, especially someone outside of the organization who has no idea of anything that goes on here. He’s not even in our country. This guy’s in another country talking *.

He felt like he needed to say it for some reason, I have no idea why and I don’t care. He could be in this clubhouse right now, I wouldn’t know. I couldn’t tell you his name, what he looks like – he’s got a big mouth, that’s all I know about him.

I read it, I just read it. I don’t care. He doesn’t have to use my name, use someone else’s name. I’m not taking up for him, because I don’t care about him. I don’t know who he is. I’m not going to sit here and defend someone who’s going to sit there and say I don’t care about baseball. It pisses me off, to be honest with you. He doesn’t even know me. If he knew me, fine. Say what you want. But this guy doesn’t know anything about me other than what he sees on whatever SportsCenter they have on up there. That’s it.

It pisses me off. It does. I just told you it pisses me off when people who have no idea what the * goes on around here and then say – I don’t give a ** what people say in this clubhouse, I don’t care, besides what’s said in here. I don’t care about the perception people have of me, if anything happens, it looks like I ain’t going to Toronto. I can eliminate one team.

I’m not converting my dollars into looneys and twoneys just yet. They’re really good, actually.

The last line is awesome. The one thing that jumped out at me is that he really didn’t deny what Ricciardi said, he just said that Ricciardi didn’t know what he was talking about.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 19, 2008 11:29 AM EDT   0 recs

"Whatever SportsCenter they have up there"

Loves it.

It reminds me of watching SportsCenter in Windsor one time. “All eyes are on Halifax today for the junior hockey championships!” All eyes on Halifax, indeed.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 19, 2008 11:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

pretty much what he has to say is...

“Suck it, Gray!”

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 19, 2008 11:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Literary reasons for losing

I was checking out the story below this one on Trent’s page, and here’s what Dusty had to say about our offense.

“We’ve been a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde team offensively—we score a lot of runs or we don’t score any runs,” Baker said. “I want Dr. Jekyll to show up here pretty soon.”

Um, Dr. Jekyll, while a good man, was meek, demure, and largely impotent. That’s the offense we have lately, and if Dusty wants more of the same, I’m afraid we’re going to be getting it. Personally, I could really go from big, bad, Earl Weaver-approved, Mr. Hyde action, with a whole lotta big 3-run dong blasting sockcuckers. But that’s just me.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 19, 2008 11:38 AM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Yeah, and Grizzley Adams had a beard.

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Jun 24, 2008 9:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good for Dunn

I love this entire response. I really hope he clobbers the ball next week in Toronto.

by ken on Jun 19, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This clown

What a jerk! I hope Dunn hits a home run that smashes his car’s windshield in the parking lot.

"Joe is baseball in Cincinnati...We can lose players, managers and coaches, but we can't afford to lose Joe Nuxhall." - Sparky Anderson

by boohiss on Jun 19, 2008 1:42 PM EDT   0 recs

yeah!

take that jose canseco!

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 19, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what if the dome is closed all weekend?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jun 20, 2008 12:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it is retractable

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jun 20, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just like the comments by JP.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jun 20, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up   2 recs

What a moron...

That’s all I can say… It’s no wonder he never wins.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jun 19, 2008 3:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Holy crap

That’s kinda harsh.

Why would he say something like that? Even if it’s true, why say it?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 19, 2008 5:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Poz's take

Definitely worth a read.

""Do you know the guy doesn’t really like baseball that much?" Ricciardi told the cllaer, according to the National Post. "Do you know the guy doesn’t have a passion to play the game that much? How much do you know about the player?"

How much, indeed? Did he cry during the let’s-have-a-catch scene at the end of "Field of Dreams." Does he know all the words or only most of them to the second verse of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame?" Does he appreciate cool trivia questions like: "How many times was Roger Maris intentionally walked the year he hit 61 homers?"*Does he have a baseball card in the spokes of his bicycle? And, if so, then what card? Because it has to be someone like Sixto Lezcano or Paul Assenmacher or else it feels kind of phony. Does he occasionally put on the ol’ pajamas, go to the parents basement and blog about baseball just for fun? Can he not only name the entire lineup of the ‘75 Reds but also the starting pitchers? No, I suspect not. This Dunn is most definitely not a Blue Jays man. Not a Blue Jays man at all.

by ken on Jun 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT   0 recs

I was just about to post that

JoePo is, at least to me, the best writer in the game. I’ve begun following the Injuns and Royals as my “AL Teams” thanks to him. I also like that he’s written far more articles about the Reds (attacking Daugherty earlier in the year, 600 words for Junior, now this) than, say, the Cubs.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jun 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mea culpa

JP apologizes:

He is a man with bigger issues on his plate, but J.P. Ricciardi took time yesterday to telephone his counterpart with the Cincinnati Reds, Walt Jocketty, yesterday to apologize for statements he made critical of Reds outfielder Adam Dunn.

“It’s my fault, I take full responsibility for it,” Ricciardi, the Toronto Blue Jays’ general manager, said last night. “I tried to get Adam’s phone number from the Reds … and if he wants to talk to me, I’ll talk to him and apologize personally. But I apologize to him and the Reds. I need to be better than that. I let my guard down.”

I still can’t believe a GM would publicly disparage another player like that, but at least he recognizes his mistake. None of this changes the fact that he’s an awful GM.

by ken on Jun 20, 2008 6:31 AM EDT   1 recs

Bull

That’s one of those “I’m sorry I got caught” apologies. He doesn’t say he was wrong in what he said, or that he was wrong to say it, only that he was sorry it got back to Dunn. There is nothing in his statement that shows any type of real remorse.

It’s the classic Mel Gibson move.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Jun 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

whats wrong with that?

can you actually prove the Holocaust happened?

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jun 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Now if he meant

Dusty B hates baseball…

Beware the toothpick knows.

by Pilsner73 on Jun 20, 2008 12:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Fictional statement

Now if his statement read *Do you know the guy doesn’t really likemanaging baseball with logic and stats that much?” Ricciardi said to the caller. “Do you know the guy bats Corey patterson lead-off and doesn’t pay attention to the the game that much? How much do you know about the manager? There’s a reason why you’re attracted to some managers and there’s a reason why you’re not attracted to some managers. I know you would not be be very happy if we brought Dusty here …. *

Beware the toothpick knows.

by Pilsner73 on Jun 20, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up   2 recs

chuckle... rec'd

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 20, 2008 12:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't forget...

1. Batted his hitters out of order in a game.
2. Routinely fails to have someone up and throwing in the bullpen when his starter usually flames out (based on statistics).
3. Thinks Corey Patterson hits better off lefties when he actually doesn’t.
4. Doesn’t realize that Jolbert Cabrera is an outfielder primarily.
5. Thinks that it’s a good idea to bat Paul Janish second because he is a shortstop. (Makes you kind of wonder what he would do if A-Rod were on the team playing shortstop, whether he would bat second or leadoff.)
6. Had his top two starters come in to pitch significant innings in an 18-inning loss, which then caused them both to lose games later that week, messing up his ace for a good portion of the next month.
7. Uses his closer in blowout situations, only to have the closer blow saves the next night.
8. Takes Adam Dunn out “for defensive purposes” in games in which the Reds are ahead by less than two runs, tied or behind.
9. Thinks it’s good to be “aggressive” and hack early in the count.
10. Does not appreciate the importance of on-base percentage.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jun 20, 2008 1:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

11. Spends a lot of time playing cards with GM - neither of them know much about the guys on the team yet.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 20, 2008 1:51 PM EDT   0 recs

John Gibbons doesn't have a passion for baseball

Toronto just fired their manager (just in time for Cinci’s trip to the Great White North!) and rehired Cito Gaston.

Is Gaston down with sabermetrics?

by Brendanukkah on Jun 20, 2008 2:30 PM EDT   0 recs

no one calls bunts like gaston

no one hates strikeouts like gaston
when it comes to sabr numbers
no one hates them quite like gaston

When it comes to Phil Mickelson...Marty's not a fan.

by chandrathan on Jun 21, 2008 10:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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