1 mil just isnt what it used to be. three of them and a box of toothpicks can get you a Corey Patterson.

Fogg would definitely be a defensive upgrade over Valentine. Plus, wouldn’t a pitcher be good at calling games? Let’s just get rid of catchers and let off-day pitchers catch.

Jay Bruce
Kevin Barker (Triple-A Lifer)
Alvin Colina ?

I know Andy Green and Andy Phillips haven’t been all that good, and Dickerson started real real slow. Janish is not quite there with the bat yet.

I think he is actually not better suited for the bullpen.

I remember when we had this sort of discussion a couple of years ago. They put Belizzle in the bullpen, and he stank fo shizzle, so a bunch of us here thought that maybe he was better suited as a starter. His problems with runners on and pitching from the stretch, plus his back problems, I think, led us to that conclusion.

So we were optimistic when he was made a starter.

I think Belizzle may be able to put up league average numbers as a starter. As a reliever, he seems to be a “backbreaker run” (that extra run or five that the other team scores when you’re trailing late, but close enough to make it a game still) or an injury waiting to happen.

The reason we may be thinking of putting him back in the bullpen is that he has stunk fo shizzle as a starter this year on a number of occasions, but I think he will stink even worse if we do that.

The Rockies are the only team in baseball worse than the Reds, and his World Series cache might mean they would actually want him back. If Jocketty can get something for him, then I’m all for it. If not, we can stash Fogg in the minors (or Belisle if Fogg doesn’t have options), but Bailey absolutely needs to be in the majors. He demonstrated skill last year, and this year should be all about honing that skill at a major league level. The situation demands a youth movement.

but then how do you explain the night games?

 I Split         G  GS GF  W  L  S CG SHO   IP    ERA   H   R   ER HR  BB IBB  SO HBP
+-+------------+---+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+-----+------+---+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+
   Day            2  2  0  0  2  0  0   0   7    15.43  16  12  12  5   1   0   6   1 
   Night          5  5  0  1  2  0  0   0  25.1   6.75  34  23  19  3  12   0  23   1 

He needs long-term underage affairs and steroids.

-R. Clemons

Bailey was hurt by some home town scoring. 3 of those hits and two of those runs should have been unearned and uncounted. Rosales had one hit his glove and stop at his feet, but he turned and looked behind him for it. Scorer ruled it a single. Kevin Barker had a similar one hit his glove that stayed in the infield go for a single. Then Drew Anderson lost one in the lights that landed three feet in front of him as he stood there looking for it. Since he didn’t touch it, it was also ruled a hit. His line looked a lot worse than his actual pitching was.