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Game 49: Reds at Padres, Part II

Volquez has 9 Ks and owns the major league strikeout lead again. Testes just gave up a hit. Yay!

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Delay!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe we'll get a blooper show!

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm game@!

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

word

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

marlowe

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wanna say jennifer?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

consider it said

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, since Slyde appears to have left us

I’ll man the Banana Phone this evening

Let’s open the phone lines! I am ready for your calls!

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

adam from milwaukee wants to know

do you think scott hatteburg is a good player?

by xjjeep90 on May 23, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you think he's a good player?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd rather have Luke

you know, we need some biblical figures around for the impending apocalypse.

by Daedalus on May 23, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marty

Let me just say that I’ve been your biggest fan for ever and ever and it’s such an honor to talk to you. You’re the man and I really appreciate everything you’ve ever done and you’re a hall-of-famer in my book. Uhhh….. I don’t think Adam Dunn is a very good baseball player. He’s lazy and…. he doesn’t play good defense. And he only hits homeruns. I’ll sit back and listen, tahnks for taking my call.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adam Dunn simply does not do what needs to be done

to win baseball games. After all, look at his track record. He’s done what he’s done, and the Reds have not won. I get tired of people saying he hits 40 homers and drives in 100 runs. How many games has he won with those home runs? Not enough to get to the World Series, I’ll tell you that, boy.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi Marty

Hi John Doe, what’s your question?

Hello, John Doe, John, are you there?

Uuuuhhhh, yeah, Marty. Hi, how you doin’ today?

Hi, John Doe, I’m doing great.

Uuuuhhh, yeah Marty, I wanted to know. Why do hot dogs cost so much at the stadium? Is that why Junior gets paid so much? And Dunn sux. I heard you say so.

by Daedalus on May 23, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why is it that we have a pitcher on pace for a buttload of strikeouts for the first time ever

and it rains to short circuit his game?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because God hates you.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you've noticed that too?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In fairness...

everybody’s noticed that.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, Dunn and Griffey walk after this season.....

So we’ll have plenty of money freed up. The Rays hold options on Crawford until 2010, but they’re cheap and not very good, so they’ll obviously decline that. So, he’ll be a free agent, and we can take the money saved from not re-signing Dunn and Griffey, and go get Crawford.

He’s your opening day LF in 2009. Guaranteed. Bitches.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LONG TIME LISTNER 1ST TIME CALLER

WHY ISN’T PETE ROSE IN THE HALL OF FAME?

BUBUBUBUBUBUBUB

by Madville on May 23, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Typical Bananaphone call?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Easy one

Because he bet on credit. The money in baseball today is such that gamblers can’t make inroads by simply offering players cash to throw games. The only way that a Black Sox scandal can happen today is if the player is already in the bookie’s pocket. Pete put himself in that situation knowing full well what he was doing, and what the consequences of that action was. The essence of sport is fair competition, and Pete put his own love for “action” in front of that. It’s an unforgivable sin.

That was probably a little more serious than you were looking for, but I could go on further if you’d like. I feel very strongly about this one.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because women can't keep their damn mouths shut

Always talkin’ to their friends “Oh, Bill did this.”

Women be trippin’.

Am I right?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for your comments

Ans especially for using the adverb correctly

BUBUBUBUBUBUBUB

by Madville on May 23, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

... and a fan with no hands.

by ken on May 23, 2008 11:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on, Daedalus

The word “Sins” was meant metaphorically. Pete’s “sins” were against the game of baseball itself. That’s why he’s out. Being the proprietor of a blog called “The Church of Baseball,” you should be more sensitive about this than most. At its core, baseball, like all other sports, is a competition. Willingly putting yourself in a position that comprimises the competition is the worst thing you can do to the game.

Plenty of people were assholes on and off the field. Very few put themselves in a position to discredit the game entirely.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think one could easily make an argument that wife-beating

is much more a discredit to the game than gambling is. but that’s for another rain delay.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BLEE2525 IS PRO WIFE-BEATING

Allegedly.

I’m not saying that betting on baseball is worse than beating your wife. And a dude with no hands. And a black guy for being “uppity.” That’s ridiculous.

I’m saying that with regard to the Baseball Hall of Fame, committing an act that has the potential to ruin the competitive nature of the game is reason enough to deny entry.

What the hell is so difficult to understand about this?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rose's betting on the game did not destroy the "competitive nature of the game"

betting on anything is as old as sport itself.

rose is not in the hall because he “killed” fay and bud’s friend.

by Daedalus on May 24, 2008 12:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate bringing up the "It's printed on every clubhouse wall" argument

but, it’s, um, printed on every clubhouse wall.

Don’t bet on baseball. There’s no gray area, no room for interpretation. Bet on baseball, you’re banned for life. Period.

The Black Sox scandal almost killed MLB. It took a larger-than-life figure in the biggest media market obliterating every record in the books to bring it back. Again, the only way gamblers could get back into the game is somebody betting on credit. Down 100 large? “Hey, you don’t have to lose it, just keep it close.”

I understand loving the way Pete played the game. But you don’t see a problem with betting on credit in a game you have influence over?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 24, 2008 12:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course it is

just as is the argument that rose hurt the game.

rose may have hurt reds fans by making them expect more from their players.

by Daedalus on May 24, 2008 12:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no no i get you man

im not trying to be “uppity” (alright sorry, bad joke. well, not a bad joke, but a bad TIME for jokes). and i agree with you totally. Rose bet on the game and he shouldnt go the the HOF. i was just saying that as betting is a bad mark on the game, so is anything (such as spousal abuse) that mars the public image of the player. HOFers should hit well and be boy scouts, is all im saying.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mo trivia

How many teams did Joe Girardi play for?

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 23, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ehhh....

4? I thinnk he was on StL at the end

Jeff, we hardly knew ye...

by chesirecat on May 23, 2008 11:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oooh, ooh...

one of two foul balls i’ve “caught” in my life was hit by girardi when he was on the rockies.

by Daedalus on May 23, 2008 11:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This call is for Clownboy:

I know that you were a great closer. Why can’t you close sMarty’s big yap?

BUBUBUBUBUBUBUB

by Madville on May 23, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marty is clutch.

Marty Brennaman is a clutch player.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Welsh's hat matches his 'stache.

yikes.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On a actually serious note

Is EV going to be able to come back out

Jeff, we hardly knew ye...

by chesirecat on May 23, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good question

and it really SUX this has happened.

by Daedalus on May 23, 2008 11:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.

Those of you not watching FSN right now are missing out. George and Chris wearing SD camo beanies. George looks like he’s in a gang.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a really cool gang

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A gang of camo hat wearing douchebags.

Ah they took them off. Good call, guys.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

chuck woolery

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it his dad?

‘cause damn, look at those chins.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

huh?

who the fuck is that?

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you asking me to clarify my question?

because if you are, then yes, my question is who the fuck is Bob Braun.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From the Wik:

Bob Braun (April 20, 1929 – January 15, 2001) was a local television and radio personality in Cincinnati, Ohio. He was born in Ludlow, Kentucky.

Bob BraunHe was best known for The Bob Braun Show, which he hosted from 1967 to 1984 . The show was the top-rated live entertainment/information program in the Midwest.[citation needed] Originating at WLWT, the daily 90-minute show was syndicated throughout the heartland of America, and featured a live band, singers, and special guests including Bob Hope (a frequent guest), Lucille Ball, Johnny Carson, Paul Lynde, Red Skelton, Phyllis Diller and Dick Clark. Politicians including Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush, John Glenn, and Ted Kennedy were also guests.

Here’s Bob.

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 24, 2008 12:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ahhh

way before my time. but thanks professor Al!

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hi uh marty

who would you say is the better catcher, jason la rue, or paul bako. Thanks and i love your show. click

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 23, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's Paul Bako

and I don’t think it’s particularly close. Have you seen his veteran presence? The way he handles a pitching staff? How he blocks balls in the dirt? The way he frames pitches on the corners? Those are things that don’t get measured by the stats. That’s why Bako’s better. Also, his stats are better.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tarp is off

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

time for a bako double

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 23, 2008 11:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McCoy thinks

the Reds wont let Bruce play CF. awwwwwwwsome.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that the Reds are working hard

on dealing Dunn or Junya. Haven’t heard that every year since 2004.

by ken on May 23, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honestly though..

isn’t bruce a natural corner outfielder?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 23, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably

But his bat is so much better than our options at CF that it doesn’t matter. FWIW, Hal recently reported that Bruce looked really good in CF, according to a rival scout.

by ken on May 23, 2008 11:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he projects to be a very good RF in the future

but right now, he’s 21 and can run like a horse and has a good arm. he’s tremendously talented, and i dont think he would have any problem being an average CF. which is to say, much MUCH better than Freel or Patterson. especially Patterson.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm pissed off now

i don’t want to go to any more reds games this year if bruce isn’t up on tuesday. and i’m serious about that. until next week.

by Daedalus on May 23, 2008 11:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bruce isn't a pitcher

why would they have to trade adam?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wagon coming back out for more.

Awesome.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what is it with these old men and their ice cream?

these guys talk about ice cream like we use to talk about Playboys when i was in jr high.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hate ice cream

and playboy

it’s weak

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's more like it

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dippin' Dots and Camel Clips.

I mean.. Bread pudding and Hustler. Yeah, what Ken said.

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 23, 2008 11:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh i love ice cream

and print pornography is dead, much like sports journalism. the internet is where its at.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Howdy, folks.

Glad to put that banana phone away! What a bunch of yahoos. Do they only let the calls from south of the river get through?

by Marty Brennaman on May 23, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you think Scott Hatteberg's a good player?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BK, my man, Scott Hatteberg is a fine player.

He’s what they call a “professional” and not only that, he’s a leader in the clubhouse. He’s the kind of guy that team like the Reds with some young players could use more guys like Scott Hatteberg. In fact, there are some people in this game of baseball—and I know these people- who will tell you that if you were to field a team of eight or nine or ten Scott Hattebergs you’d have a team with a lot- and I mean a lot- of professional clubhouse leaders.

by Marty Brennaman on May 23, 2008 11:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he's overrated.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well Ken, let me ask you a question.

A team like the Padres isn’t going to give up a player like Jody Gerut for nothing. So what would you think that the Reds should give the Padres for Jody Gerut? And then Ken, let me ask you another question. What would you suppose that the Reds do with Corey Patterson should they acquire Jody Gerut? I mean, the Reds brought in Corey Patterson and they’re paying him a lot of money to play centerfield and that just happens to be the postion that your guy Gerut also plays.

by Marty Brennaman on May 24, 2008 12:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bakkko

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 23, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope, still here.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we're together again

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JJJJJTTTTTMMMMM!!!!!!!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm here

Just typed a response to your response to my Pete comments.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 23, 2008 11:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thus far,

Our Hairston > their Hairston.

Are you sure you're OK? Have you had an MRI?

by Paul Householder on May 23, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey thats mine!

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 23, 2008 11:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

95 mph heat

with arm-side action. We’re back!

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on May 23, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

VolKKKKKKKKKKswagen.

That’s 10. Through 4 1/3.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10 Ks

Doesn’t look like the delay hurt him at all.

by ken on May 23, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Picking up...

Right where he left off.

Are you sure you're OK? Have you had an MRI?

by Paul Householder on May 23, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shit

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jody Fucking Gerut?

Seriously?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 23, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why not just make ten louder?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11!

pretty nice game if the reds could fing score

by Daedalus on May 24, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11

Are you sure you're OK? Have you had an MRI?

by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just reading about this Super Two player nonsense

and delaying Jay Bruce’s arbitration by a year. By my calculations, the Reds should be able to safely call him up NOW and delay his arbitration.

by cesarhernandez on May 24, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got June 8

You need 2 years and 86 days to be eligible for Super 2. September days don’t count.

31 days in August
31 days in July
24 days in June
____
86 days

June 8 gives him 85 days this season, which would make him ineligible for Super 2 in 2010.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 24, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Without checking the CBA,

I thought Super 2 eligibility involved how many days of service time other people in your year had. Usually falls in mid-June some time but with some variance.

by ken on May 24, 2008 12:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're close

You have to be in the top 17% of your year in terms of performance, but you also have to have at least 2 years, 86 days to be eligible.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 24, 2008 12:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I googled Super Two player

first item was from the Mariners beat writer’s blog. It has a good explanation of it. It’s hard to explain but here’s the key graf:

Since 1990, the average minimum amount of service time for a “Super Two’’ eligible player has been two years, 135 days. If the team wants to avoid going to arbitration with Clement at the end of the 2010 season - and keep paying him “peanuts’’ in 2011, instead of a seven-figure wage - it has to make sure he does not have two years, 135 days of service time by the end of 2010. At a minimum. Just to be safe, the team might want to wait another seven to 10 days to be sure.

If Bruce came up tomorrow, he would accrue 128 days of service time (128 days until the end of the season).

by cesarhernandez on May 24, 2008 12:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the Brewers called up Ryan Braun

and this time last season (May 24 or 25) and they were able to delay his arbitration a year.

by cesarhernandez on May 24, 2008 12:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm almost positive....

September days don’t count towards service time.

I am absolutely positive that you need 2 years, 86 days of service time to be eligible for the Super 2 Designation

http://www.mlb.com/pa/info/faq.jsp

Scroll down to the question, “When does a player become eligible for salary arbitration?”

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 24, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Key phrase

if he has accumulated at least 86 days of service during the immediately preceding season AND he ranks in the top 17 percent in total service in the class

Its the top 17 percent thing that’s the key. It has to fit both criteria. So if Bruce isn’t among the top 17 percent, he can have more than 86 days of service time.

And September does count. The Mariner blog says the most service time a player can accrue in a season is 172 days, although there are generally 183 days in a baseball season.

by cesarhernandez on May 24, 2008 12:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Estes still has a shutout.

Are you sure you're OK? Have you had an MRI?

by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, wait,

go back to Jim Day ordering a diet coke, please. Who needs baseball?

by ken on May 24, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C-Pat bunting.

You have. to be. kidding. me.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think about it this way.

There was an 80% chance he would make an out anyway, so why not bunt?

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good job freel

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God in heaven deliver me now.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was crying about playing time

a while back

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how in the heck did freel get caught?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See my post above, about him being an idiot.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a good point.

With this team, usually a negative play becomes a positive one by comparison to what actually happens.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Freel is an idiot.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

even worse, he's stubborn.

Been making the same mistakes for years.

by ken on May 24, 2008 12:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stubborn?

he’s “aggresive”. just like genocide is “ethnic cleansing”.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

have cpat steal

now

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Setting up for 599.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

freel can suck it

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

griffey had a nice view of that pitch

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wait he was already retired

by the pitcher

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

veteran presence.

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

at least BP cant ground into a double play.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no this is SERIOUS GROWTH

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you never saw "lord of the rings"?

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

apparently this guy grew warts that look like that

if you want to read on it here

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and i don't

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

O RLY?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

i actually really did want to know what it was.

by Daedalus on May 24, 2008 12:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bp homer here

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In honor of tonight's guest...

when’s the next RR Alter-Ego Night?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we'd have to reregister our alters.

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Be selfish.

Kill the rally.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 24, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's try something new.

Dunn-specific mid-inning RALLY CAPS?

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 24, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow horrible call

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I fucking hate this team

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 24, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I need another drink.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

two outs in the inning made between second and third...

what the fuck are they running for?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know!

Dusty isn’t managing tonight!

Are you sure you're OK? Have you had an MRI?

by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How do you know

Dusty isn’t sending texts from his iPhone?

by ken on May 24, 2008 12:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.

Or he may be pulling the Bobby Valentine and is disguised as Juan Castro coming back for a visit.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Umm...

Why steal? You’re in scoring position with two out.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 baserunning outs

and one superstar leaving the bat on his shoulder

by xjjeep90 on May 24, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what was it that my t-ball coach told me?

something about “never make the 1st or last out at 3rd base”. but he never said anything about making BOTH there.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sorry, I have to vent

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU STEAL 3RD WITH ADAM FUCKING DUNN AT THE PLATE? THE ONLY WAY THAT BASE MATTERS WITH 2 OUT IS ON A SHORT SINGLE WHERE A GUY COULD SCORE FROM 3RD AND NOT 2ND, AND DUNN IS THE LEAST LIKELY FUCKING PERSON ON THE TEAM TO HIT A SHORT FUCKING SINGLE. AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 24, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no need to apologize, we all feel the same way.

it’s so frustrating. and we have absolutely no control over it. it’s worse than democracy, because we can scream about it til we’re blue in the face but by the time reds brass does anything (if they do) it’s too late.

by Daedalus on May 24, 2008 12:21 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

12 K's

wow

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meanwhile...
12

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

94 pitches

looks like he’ll most likely come out again next inning.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strange game...

I’m not really rooting for the Reds to win, because they are clearly not trying to.

I’m actually rooting against outs that are not strikeouts and long at-bats.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now watch Dunn hit a HR here.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hudson will be back at the top of the lineup tomorrow

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woo!

usually in this situation you’d think we’d tie it. but this is the 2008 reds.

by Daedalus on May 24, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ding ding ding

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...and here we go

when will these assholes figure out that our bashers dont bunt? you dont do it with a guy who can jam like Jo-eh.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jam as in

jam the bases?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's what drives me crazy..

They announcers (namely Marty) always harp on the team when they don’t get bunts down and they always imply (or state directly) that it’s something that could be practiced and mastered. But the thing is, there’s not a team that always bunts successfully. Why is bunting not considered a skill like hitting or pitching or chainsaw juggling that some people just can’t do as well as others. Why is it assumed that bunting is like riding a bike?

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 24, 2008 12:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

chris has been bordering on negative tonight

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they had just left well enough alone last inning...

Cherry would have driven home two runs with that single.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quick:

How many sac bunts does Votto have in his entire career?

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fewer than EdE?

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

?????

?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I no longer care about winning this game.

Let Volkswagen hit for himself after Bako makes an out.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can see Volquez being done here

he’s thrown 94 rain delayed pitches. it might be wise to ice him down.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game is an absolute microcosm of this season.

So many bad bad efforts overshadowing the extraordinary.

And it rained in San Diego.

And Dusty can’t be blamed for any of it.

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 24, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

can we let ross bat?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ross the boss

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Note to manager: Don't bunt here.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Christ on a Hubcap Chris the Genius Gnome Manager

morosely slumps out to the mound and brings in the right hander, knowing full well that Bako’s brief flirtation with offensive success was fleeting

BUBUBUBUBUBUBUB

by Madville on May 24, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

bako beats out the throw. right on man.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No bunt!

Runs!

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

at least he put the ball in play, thata boy, and good hustle

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Score!

Please don’t take EV out….

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

valentin hits for volquez

is that an upgrade?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we got lucky

and unlucky. voltron done after being kickass.

by Daedalus on May 24, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who is this guy?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on May 24, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

VolKKKKKKKKKKKKswagen.

Great game.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least he won't lose it :-)

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he could even win it now!

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There it is!

It’s sad, but if Volkie is going to be taken seriously, he needs to pad that win column.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This guy kind of sucks

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boy meets world

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 24, 2008 12:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This... Valentine, is it?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why is it

that any big fat stupid catcher walks to the plate is a “very good fastball hitter” according to Welsh?

...and good job LLM.

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 24, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Junior Varsity?

I know he should be in AAA, but that’s harsh, man.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on May 24, 2008 12:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Berry nice.

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by Paul Householder on May 24, 2008 12:37 AM EDT</