We've just come to a point where we're not going to lose anymore." -- Bob Castellini. Make it so, Mr. Castellini.
by Blue on May 23, 2008 12:46 AM EDT
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These were the words of Mr. Castellini after firing GM Wayne Krivsky. Well, we're still losing Mr. Castellini, and anyone with a brain can see that though this team is really bad, they're substantially better than the manager allows them to be.
Dusty Baker not only gives Corey Patterson at-bats, he puts him in a postition in the lineup to get extra at-bats.
Got a light hitting young SS? Bat him second, because everyone knows the CFer leads off and the SS bats second.
Have an old Griffey? He's got to hit third. He's Griffey.
Adam Dunn? Seventh if he's only striking out and clogging the bases.
And while we're at it, lets start Paul Bako, PAUL BAKO, at catcher against LHP.
Have the worst RFer in baseball? Double-switch out an average LFer and leave the RFer in during close games. Oh, by the way, that LFer is the best hitter on the team and the guy coming off the bench is a guaranteed out.
Have a stud CF prospect? Make up some garbage about chronic leg injuries so you can justify keeping him in the minor leagues until there is a corner OF spot available.
Have young stud pitchers? Leave them in for 118 pitches in a 9-0 game.
Have a power hitter at the plate and the game on the line? BUNT!
We're paying him $10.5 million for this! If any one of us made mistakes like these at our jobs, we'd be fired.
And so should he.
Walt Jocketty said that "Dusty and I won't stand for losing." Well, Dusty is not only standing for it, he's doing his part to make it more likely every game. Walt should go to Mr. Castellini in an effort to not make a liar out of himself and get this clown canned immediately. Pretty much any available manager would be better than this guy.
The time has already come. Twenty percent of the way through his contract, its time to cut your losses, Mr. Castellini. You fired Wayne Krivsky in a move that I didn't agree with at the time. In retrospect, this team really does stink, and you made the right move. You fired him because the team wasn't winning, and the fact that he had the overall organization in better shape than when he took over did not matter. Dusty Baker cannot claim the same accomplishment. He has not given this team the best chance to win day in and day out, and we are now in worse shape manager-wise than we were with Jerry Narron, Dave Miley, and *GULP* Bob Boone. He's not winning, and no matter how well Jocketty constructs the roster, the team will have a lesser chance of winning because of his mismanagement.
Dusty was a bad hire, Mr. Castellini. You don't even have to admit that you made a mistake. Just fire him, and move on to pretty much anyone else. If you want another big name manager, you can definitely find one better than Dusty Baker. If you have truly the desire to bring winning baseball back to Cincinnati, its a move you must make.
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Baker
Not sure what you have against Paul Bako. Seriously, don’t encourage Dusty to go with the fighty-lefty matchups that don’t work.
What is interesting is this bit from Fay today:
Dusty Baker said Ryan Freel will likely start the next two games as well with lefties throwing for the Padres. “Corey (Patterson) has good numbers against some of those lefties,” Baker said. “But he’s just not hitting or getting on base.”
He’s just not hitting or getting on base? Really? I mean, REALLY? When did this happen, Dusty? Because last I checked, you have never had a lead off hitter not named “Kenny Lofton” who could hit and get on base. And John Fay, you’re fired for not having ANY follow up question whatsoever to this comment. Seriously. Do you not understand what your fucking job is?
by Brian B on May 23, 2008 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are many things Fay does not understand
His job. Baseball. Women. Just to name a few
by Bill Doran on May 23, 2008 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(very little) hindsight
Behold our first taste of Dusty as the Reds manager. It features Slyde threatening to ban boobs. Take that RedReporter-cool-table conspiracy theorists!
by Red Menace on May 23, 2008 2:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also
Their first hint that Dusty would be coming.
by Red Menace on May 23, 2008 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just read through both of those threads
its funny, because we were all worried about Norris Hopper poxxing our lead off spot. at this point, i would give up red meat and ipods for the chance to see Hopper lead off.
If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a lot of talk
about what Dusty did to Corey Patterson in Chicago, and how Patterson never should have been a leadoff hitter, but Dusty put him there anyway. He ruined Patterson, and now Patterson is a terrible player.
Seven months later, he’s our terrible player. First reactions aren’t always bad.
by Brendanukkah on May 23, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for linking these, interesting to reread
“Mom, I know what I’m doing”
I’m still interested in interviewing Mater Baker to take over her son’s position.
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by Man Mountain on May 23, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't hold back Blue, go ahead and let us know how you really feel.
Despite the sentiment here at RR that ‘The manager doesn’t make that much difference’....The manager does make an enormous difference in how a team performs, the proof in this argument is – DUSTY BAKER. It is sad but undeniable, most of Baker’s decisions appear to be based on whims, oldtime baseball (play the game the right way) and outdated approaches (bat CF 1st, SS 2nd etc). The man doesn’t utilize the information available to him re: his player’s performance and he is stuck/rigid in his thinking. this is the death knell…we need a manager who can think outside the old box, not hide behind it.
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by Madville on May 23, 2008 6:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe the "RR sentiment," as far as there's a consensus, is
that managers can do a lot to hurt a team. What they can do to get a team to play better than it’s talent is questionable.
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by Man Mountain on May 23, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my .02
as i’ve said, is that i dont think dusty is doing a great deal of harm to the team. we dont have a good centerfielder, so i cant really blame him for how much he’s played patterson, and lineup construction doesnt contribute that much to games’ outcomes. He’s playing the best players for the most part, and he’s even given guys what seem like really well-timed days off.
i fucking hate having to defend dusty baker. i dont think he’s a great, or even good manager. but he’s not our biggest problem, and he really does not seem much different than 90 percent of all the other managers. I think hatred of him is a self-perpetuating sentiment.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel you, but
he really does not seem much different than 90 percent of all the other managers
He pulls in 3.5 per, he’s the second highest paid manager; he makes 3 times the league average. He’s not the reason the Reds are bad, but I feel confident in saying that he makes them worse than they are.
The Reds could still have Mackanin double switching Dunn out for 600K.
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by Man Mountain on May 23, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so?
it’s not my money, and it’s not your money. Like i’ve said before, if we’re not on a strict budget, his salary is of no consequence. castellini doent seem to be scrimping in other areas to fund the iron fistbands pillage.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jury's still out on Castellini's spending
Do we know if he’s repaired the scouting for instance? The front office and research staff?
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by Man Mountain on May 23, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pros/cons
Pro: He stuck with Votto and EdE during their early year struggles. That paid off for him.
Con: He bunts too much and puts .262 obp in the leadoff spot. He overmanages with the little ball, doule switches, etc.
Unknown: Getting innings out of starters instead of watching pitch counts. The 118 from Volquez probably wasn’t a crime by it self, but he was struggling that inning, the Reds had a huge lead, and there was no one up in the bullpen to “save” him at 120 if he didn’t get that last batter out. He’s now thrown 110+ pitches in 3 consecutive games. Cueto worked 114 pitches the other night to get through 5 innings, his highest count of the year.
by rojosoto on May 23, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is this any worse than narron?
better yet, name 5 managers in the bigs who wouldnt have done pretty much all the same things.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
But if we’re talking about managers who wouldn’t consistently bat a sub 260 OBP guy at lead off, have no one up in the pen while a young pitcher struggles in a blow out, and ask one of the 10 best power hitters to bunt with 2 on no out in the bottom of the ninth inning - all within a week of one another - I bet we could put our heads together and name more than 5.
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by Man Mountain on May 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
re
that 260 OBP guy is really no worse than the other CF options he has, and as I said, poor lineup construction doesnt cost you that many runs. I am getting a little worried about Volquez’s and Cueto’s pitch load, but there are also people here complaining that he’s using the relievers too much.
And I bet lots and lots of managers would ask Dunn to bunt once with two on and no out in the bottom of the ninth inning down one run, mainly because that’s the best possible situation to lay one down (aside from if the game were tied.) And what everyone forgets is that he called off the bunt after one unsuccessful attempt. He gave it a try, because that’s what hardcore old-guard baseball folks think he should do, and then he took it off and let Adam swing away on 1-1 and 2-1 counts. Remember when he said he hoped Edwin wouldn’t get the bunt down so that he could swing away and hit a home run? I’m pretty convinced that Dusty doesn’t buy into a lot of the old-school thought but feels obligated to fall in line with it. Is that as good as having a manager who actually practices new school ideas? No, but I don’t think it makes him any different than 90-95 percent of all other managers.
Again, this isn’t really so much a defense of Dusty as it is a condemnation of managers. There aren’t a lot of Trey Hillmans and Manny Actas. There are a lot of Dusty Bakers, Mike Scoscias, Tony LaRussas, Lou Pinellas, Joe Torres, Bruce Bochys, etc., who, for the most part, subscribe to the old traditions.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"that many runs"
Team only scores 5 in 3 games, averages about 4 per game (while allowing 5 per game) they can’t afford to give up that many runs either. Batting .260 in the leadoff spot vs. Freel’s .350 makes a big difference, IMO.
by rojosoto on May 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
knock freel's on-base down about 50 points for 5 caught stealings and countless other boneheaded plays on the basepaths
seriously, freel has to be on another scale when talking about OBP. He is easily the worst baserunner I’ve ever seen and constantly runs himself off the bases he gets on. That, and he has been a shell of himself since the concussion last year. The Reds don’t have ANY good options in centerfield, and even if that guy bats 8th, he’s still wasting a spot in the lineup. There’s nothing dusty can do about that.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 24, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be okay with Patterson if he were batting 7th or 8th
I wouldn’t like it, but he’s shown to be good enough defensively that I’d suffer through his terrible offense if it weren’t getting more ABs a game than every other player on the team.
And while I’m here, lineup order may not be more significant than who plays, but consistently bad lineup construction can cost a team as much as 50 runs in a season (according to Tango et al. in The Book). Look at this way, by batting a .255 OBP first instead of a .350 OBP (say, Hairston), Dusty is costing the team at least one base runner every two games. I say at least, because a well-formed lineup can compound that one base runner into 2 or 3 base runners just by not making that extra out.
Is that enough to pick up a win or two so far? Probably not (the Reds are already 10-4 in one-run games), but on a team that is struggling to score runs, Dusty sure isn’t doing them any favors with his lineup construction.
"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 24, 2008 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be ok with Patterson if he were on another team
He doesn’t bring enough to the team to warrant any more disccusion
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by Madville on May 24, 2008 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what would help the team more...
calling up bruce, playing him in center and batting him first, or swapping hairston and patterson in the lineup?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 24, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know the answer to that one
but that doesn’t absolve Dusty of his sins. He doesn’t have the best possible roster, but that doesn’t mean that he can’t be more efficient with the roster he has.
"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 24, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i never said otherwise
as i’ve said a hundred times this week, I dont think Dusty is a good, or even a great, manager. alls ive been trying to say is that we’re taking out all our frustration on Dusty when there are other (and more important) problems. Roster construction at this point far outweighs lineup construction.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 24, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure, roster construction is a bigger problem
but there’s no reason to excuse Dusty’s faults because of it.
But you do bring up a good point. So far, Jocketty’s a bitch.
"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 24, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sick to my stomach right now
over the thoughts that we traded Josh Hamilton.
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean the centerfielder with the strongest arm on the team?
The one that can leadoff, hit for a ton of power, and has some speed?
I don’t even know what you’re talking about.
(Just thank GOD that Volquez has done what he’s done.)
by Brendanukkah on May 23, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know about you guys...
but with Volquez, i keep waiting for the wheels to fall off. i know there is concern with the health of Hamilton, but watching him play he has as much talent as anyone in baseball. he is the real deal.
i’m still not sold on volquez…
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was checking in at Lonestar Ball to see what their thoughts on Hamilton were
Obviously they love him. But someone over there was complaining about how the west coast games start at 9:00, and how awful that was. Uh, excuse me? I’ve been sitting here stewing about how much it sucks to have to wait around all day for a ball game to start at 10:00, with the knowledge that the Reds are just going to lose it anyway, and you’re complaining about 9:00??! Grr.
(No real reason for this post. I’m frustrated by losing, and look for any possible reason to shit on Texas)
by Brendanukkah on May 23, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
That is election year funny.
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on May 23, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know
would you rather have the Triple Crown leader or the ERA leader? obviously, there is no right answer to that, but there is no wrong answer either.
here’s a tasty tidbit: apparently the Rangers have talked about giving Hobbs a long-term deal. premature much?
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/052308dnsporangbriefs.2181b5e.html
If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fwiw
volquez is also a pitching triple crown candidate. He’s two wins behind Webb in wins and one start behind Lincecum for strikeouts, in addition to being way ahead in ERA. It’s conceivable that two guys traded for each other both win triple crowns, which I’m just guessing has never happened before.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't happen
Hamilton won’t win the batting title; Volquez won’t have the most wins. But if he can keep his ERA around 3 from here on out, he’ll stay at 2.50 for the year, which would give him a chance to be the first Redleg in 64 years to win the ERA title.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on May 23, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously i wasnt saying it was likely
But if there were such things, Volquez would be the Triple Crown leader among NL pitchers, as would Hamilton among AL hitters.
No, it won’t happen. I was just hammering home the point of how equally terrific they’ve been since the trade.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
I’ve read many places that this was the two best trades of the off-season; whether the Reds’ or Rangers’ end was #1 depends on who you talk to. I also didn’t mean to (though as I reread, I did) denigrate you.
While Hamilton’s talent is obvious, I just don’t think he can be a consistant .340 hitter, which is what he’d need to be; in that park and with that lineup, he can challenge for the HR and RBI titles many (if not most) years.
Volquez’s problem is that the Reds can’t win enough games (at least this year) for him to lead the league in wins. He’ll also need to cut down on the walks (even if he continues to strike out more than 10 hitters/9 IP) to stay among the league leaders in ERA.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on May 23, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An interesting question
If the trade wouldn’t have happened, would Volquez be doing this in Texas or Hamilton in Cincinnati?
Was Volquez due to a have a breakout season regardless, or has the change of scenery thing helped? His interaction with Soto that he wouldn’t have had in Texas?
I’m on record saying that I don’t think Hamilton has this kind of success in Cincinnati without Johnny Narron.
by rojosoto on May 23, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunno.
A friend of mine thinks Volquez really turned a corner last season; it looks pretty ordinary to me.
Meanwhile, I think you’re selling Hamilton short. He seems to be very strong now, and as long as the Reds provided someone to help him, I think he’d be OK.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on May 23, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Heyman at SI says it worked out for both of teams
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/05/23/heyman.trades/index.html?eref=T1
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by redandblue on May 23, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brendan
i finally watched the finales of HIMYM and BBT. They were both very good. BBT was extremely funny, and HIMYM almost made me cry in a couple of scenes;.
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Baseball Tonight is “extremely funny”?
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on May 23, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Finding that briefcase must have been bad luck for the Yankees."
HA! Ha ha ha ha! Ha.
Hoo.
Ha. Ha ha.
/wipes tear
by Brendanukkah on May 23, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant Big Brother Twelve
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much as I love Sarah Chalke
She’s gotta say no.
by Brendanukkah on May 23, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if so then a lot of the things he's saying to his kids is blatantly misleading
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
She has to say no right now. In the span of no more than 18 hours, he broke up with her, was in a life-altering car accident, broke up with her again, reconciled with his best friend who was ALSO in a car accident, and proposed. It’s safe to say that he’s not thinking all that clearly.
Now, it doesn’t mean that they can’t get together in the future (even though I think they won’t. All the hints lead to “Mom” being some mystery brunette.), but as a self-respecting, independent woman, she has to turn him down. Plus Scrubs is also coming back in the fall, and I don’t see her pulling double duty.
by Brendanukkah on May 23, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with all of your points
plus, the kids should already have a pretty good idea of who their mom is
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus her character already has a daughter
Who isn’t showing up in those opening harangues to his children.
by Brendanukkah on May 23, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe she moved off to college
or died
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scrubs may also come back for a ninth season
or so the rumor is. And it would likely be without Zach Braff. Or so the rumor is.
"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 23, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's been rumored for a couple of years that they would do a season without zach braff
but then again, his film career hasn’t exactly taken off like he’d hoped.
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Dusty wrote for Scrubs
the whole show would revolve around that intern with the annoying voice.
Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser? BOOSE BONZER?
by Lakeman on May 23, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
snoop dogg intern?
he’s a resident now
In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.
by chandrathan on May 23, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I read Scrubs is back
It will be on ABC next year.
by rojosoto on May 23, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is
that’s it’s 8th season
"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 23, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i lost count
A 9th season without Braff, would be like the final season of That 70’s Show without Foreman.
by rojosoto on May 23, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?
no mention of using david weathers and mike lincoln in pressure situations or when the other team has a small lead that then becomes a big fracking lead?
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on May 23, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dusty roads
So far
Hasn’t fixed the problems with the little things that he was supposed to. How many games that are tight do the Reds blow because of errors, boneheaded plays or just having no clue?
His lineups are beyond terrible. Corey Patterson should never be in the top 6 spots of a lineup. Even when he’s juggling the lineup to avoid the pitcher’s spot late in the game. Speaking of juggling lineups. Hey Dusty you might want to talk to your players before changing the batting order.
How much wood does a woodchuck chuck if he's using a chainsaw.
by Pilsner73 on May 23, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will never get over....
....the sight of Juan &%$@!#* Castro batting second in the lineup. And to think I threw a wingnut when Narron pinch hit Juan for Josh Hamilton last year. I keep having this nightmare that down the stretch, by some accident of God, the Reds will “stay in the race,” which of course would never happen, and the team decides to re-acquire Juan as a “veteran presence” and “defensive wizard,” it’s the deciding game of the season, Encarnacion has struck out three times in a row, and Dusty pinch hits Castro for EdE under the guise that he once stretched out a base hit against the opposing pitcher in the minor leagues—and naturally, he strikes out with the bases loaded, never touching a single pitch. And after the game, there will trod ole Dusty, exclaiming, “Juan Castro is the greatest defensive infielder since Ozzie Smith. That’s why I had to put him in the game.” AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
by tonywf on May 23, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dusty's not managing tonight
He was suspended two games for the argument/ejection from last night. It starts tonight.
by cesarhernandez on May 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate this:
“New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi has been suspended for one game and fined an undisclosed amount for his inappropriate actions, which included kicking dirt on Umpire Chris Guccione…”
That is a shitty thing to do. Its not a shove, but it ought to garner about 5 games off.
by Blue on May 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you an umpire?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 23, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he's just really sad and depressed about the whole thing.
(Dammit! I did it again.)
by Fat Vegas Alan on May 23, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't intend to kick dirt on the umpire
He threw his hat on the ground, kicked his hat, and scuffed up some dirt that hit the umpire.
I think if he had intentionally kicked dirt on the umpire, the penalty would be more severe.
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by BubbaFan on May 23, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umpires have really become pussies
Nobody fucked with Eric Greg
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by Madville on May 23, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey hey hey
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on May 24, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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