Red Reporter: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:



Around SBN: Read our new Phoenix Coyotes blog! Bar-right-arrows



Book Club: That's what I remember most, stories.

Papa-bell-l_medium

I've gotten to the point in this book where I'm disappointed to see that there is less to go than what I've read.  Honestly, it's rare that this happens with me.  There is just something special about these stories that is really striking a nerve with me.

This segment of reading (pp. 107-211) was more about the Negro Leaguers that Buck played with than with Buck himself, though Posnanski gives us plenty of insight into Buck's character as well.

 

Star-divide

I loved the stories about Satchel Paige.  So much of Paige's legacy has such a feeling of mythology that the story of the yellow juice fit right into his history.  I was fascinated too by the story of Dan Bankhead.  I honestly had never heard of him until that point.  I loved how both Paige's and Bankhead's sons showed shortly after their father's stories were discussed.  Anyone else find it interesting that Paige was successful, but his son was somewhat separating himself from that while Bankhead struggled and yet his son seemed to be obsessed with his father's legacy (in the brief glimpse that we saw him)?  Quite a juxtaposition.

Anyway, before I get to this week's questions.  Here's some video of Satchel Paige:

 

Discussion Questions:

1. I've always enjoyed the use of nicknames for baseball players.  As Poz told us,

Nicknames defined the Negro Leagues.  Many, like Buck, had more than one nickname.  Buck was also called "Cap" and "Foots."  That was a sign of respect - getting more than one nickname.  But almost everyone had at least one nickname.

Nicknames are bit of a lost art form these days.  Sure, you've got guys like Big Donkey and Papi, but most of the time nicknames are of the lazy first initial, partial last name form or just adding an "E" sound to the end of their name.  Why do you think this is?  Are we lazy or uncreative?  Are the players too human or too inhuman that they no longer qualify for folksy nicknames?  Are there more nicknames that I realize and I'm just being falling back on the  "good old days" sap?

2.  What did you think when Buck told Star that he was "my kind of brother?"  I'll say that it was not the reaction that I expected.

3. Who is the most deserving eligible player not yet enshrined in the Hall of Fame?

4. What was your most favoritist part of this section of reading?  Did I miss any critical themes that should be discussed?

Additional reading:  If you want to learn about some of the other players mentioned, a good place to start is the BR Bullpen.  You can start with Oscar Charleston, the greatest hitter Buck ever saw.

0 recs | Comment 6 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

nickname

mine growing up was “Tick,” I think because my parents would call me Ricky-Ticki-Tavi growing up. I never really liked it, but my dad convinced me to put it on the back of my practice uniform for basketball because I would stick to the players i was defending like a tick. My childhood was mostly my dad convincing me i liked things i didn’t really like.

2. What I got out of Buck saying that was that he wanted to defuse the tension in the room. I imagine that situation hurt him quite a bit, but he’s not a guy who likes to hold grudges. That comment was probably just to make him feel better, which I would never be able to do. His patience with people is unreal.’

4. I loved the Nancy story. And the little boy Buck showed around in Washington, and his dad beaming with pride. And the little boy who Buck told not to use “that word.” I get the impression a lot of people that met Buck would realize later how important their meeting with him was.

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on May 19, 2008 5:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Maybe, just maybe

I will arrive home and my book will be there.

Have you started talking about what the next book will be?

How about The Brothers K, by David James Duncan? It is perhaps the best “baseball themed” fiction I have ever encountered (not that I am a “baseball themed” fiction expert).

It also helps that it is already on my bookshelf and the whole month long waiting for amazon to deliver business could be avoided.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on May 19, 2008 6:35 PM EDT   0 recs

When I played ball in high school ( 1962 - 1967)

Nicknames were still popular. we had a guy on our football team name ‘weasel’ White because of the shape of his face and because he was mean as a hell. Most of the nicknames we had were pretty stock. Our basketball center was ‘Stretch Howard’, we had a guy on the football team named Beasley (because he was really smart and nerdy).there were some others ‘Doc’ (his dad was a vet), Stormy (his dad called him that, real name was Carl). I grew up in a rural, all white, fairly fundamentalist area so we didn’t ‘cool’ names like our urban black counterparts.

My son’s teams (1988-1996), were ethnically diverse, but nobody that I can think of had a nickname. certainly there were none on any of the many girls soccer teams I coached either.

I know a couple of guys from my oldest daughter’s group (27,28,29 yrs olds) – Beef, Biff and Mr. Fred (real name Isaiah) but that’s about it.

BUBUBUBUBUBUBUB

by Madville on May 19, 2008 6:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Bowing out

I think I’m on page 40. Maybe 40. I haven’t picked it up in a week because I’ve been extremely busy and we’re trying to buy a house. I doubt I’ll catch up to the rest of you, unless I lose my job in the next couple weeks. So enjoy the book!

by Brian B on May 19, 2008 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

If you can't read it right now

Make sure you try to read it in the future. It’s definitely worth it when you have the time.

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

One week behind in my reading

It’s like I’m back in college.

Back in the 90’s when everyone was convinced the NBA had overtaken baseball, I remember someone suggesting that the old fashioned creativity of NBA nicknames reflected the change—the Mailman, the Admiral, the Round Mound of Rebound.

But like a lot of indicators of baseball’s drop in the national consciousness I don’t think it holds up. The nicknames are out there if you look for them. Pronk, The Big Unit, King Felix, the Greek God of Walks, Jarod Saltalamachia’s teammates call him Pits because his name stretches from pit to pit on his jersey, some call Berkman Fat Elvis, Carlos Lee El Caballo, Zambrano El Toro and Valverde Papa Grande.

I liked the Nancy story. Paige, you old dog!

by Red Menace on May 26, 2008 8:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Cincinnati Reds.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Cameronjune08_090_small
Rickey Henderson - Unanimous HOF'er?
Images_small
SIS - favorite US city(Continental 48 only)
Images_small
Just thought I'd share the good news with everyone...
1330_small
What if there had always been two divisions....
Anime_small
Spring training
Reds_small
Report: Reds in discussions for Jermaine Dye
Happyhanukkah_small
Seriously, a serious issue
Images_small
Mackanin Gets Job With Phillies
Dunn_small
Glenn Sample Passes at age 77
Images-3_small
Island Update: Soto to be pitchng coach in baseball classic, Vólquez is is signed up to play

Post_icon New FanPost All FanPosts Carrot-mini


Managers

Dunn_small Slyde

Dump_11_may_096_small Fat Vegas Alan

Prd_brick1_small Rick House

Burger-king_small BK

Happyhanukkah_small Brendanukkah

ad

Site Meter