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Florida @ Cincinnati


Note by Rick House, 05/15/08 5:15 PM EDT ] This game has been postponed due to rain. No makeup date has been announced.

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Florida Marlins
@ Cincinnati Reds

Thursday, May 15, 2008, 7:10 PM EDT
Great American Ball Park

Andrew Miller vs Matt Belisle

Mostly cloudy with a 50-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing in from left field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 60.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Andrew Miller 3-2 6.52 1.83 29 16

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Matt Belisle 1-3 7.45 1.94 9 5

I don't mean to disrespect the Marlins because clearly their record is much better than the Reds, but based on their pitchers' numbers, I don't see how they've done it.  Miller, who was acquired in the Cabrera/Willis deal, still has yet to turn 23 (next week).  He got rocked in his first 3 outings, but since then has posted a much more respectable 4.15 ERA.  He doesn't strike out a lot of hitters, so hopefully the Reds will continue to be patient and get their hits.

The leash on Belisle should be short.  Very short.  Josh Fogg's got some pennies to count, but I'm sure he's itching to pitch after 10 days of rest.  It'd be nice to get a sweep, so Dusty better not sit with Belisle for too long.

The Reds are 6-4 over their last 10 games.  It's only the second time they've had a winning record over a 10-game stretch this season.  A win today will give them a 4-game win streak for the first time this season.  Just for fun, let's not be satisfied with a series win and try to piece together a serious winning streak here for a bit.

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FISRT?

/bigdeal

Curse and drat, he's outmaneuvered us.

by Man Mountain on May 15, 2008 5:03 PM EDT   0 recs

fister?

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh

I just got it.

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good.

now can you explain the small island? because i dont get that

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

think about it

isn’t it a beautiful island?

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what a great clue!

no fucking idea

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

virgin islands? Is Belisle a virgin?

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Belle Isle

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What the hell is that?

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Shoulda used this image:

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on May 15, 2008 5:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ballgame

Reds were rained out. Nothing to see here

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 5:15 PM EDT   0 recs

does this coune as a sweep then?

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what'd you call me?

Curse and drat, he's outmaneuvered us.

by Man Mountain on May 15, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

im taking it back

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

alright no game tonight!

thats means i can enjoy the office and lost completely unfettered. good night!

If you don't get a good-night kiss, you get Kafka dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 15, 2008 5:33 PM EDT   0 recs

muhuhahaha!

The Reds postpone the game while it is still their decision, thereby allowing them to skip Belisle’s turn in the rotation…

MUHUHAHAHAHA!

by Blue on May 15, 2008 5:43 PM EDT   0 recs

also avoiding

a shitty lineup featuring Valentin playing 1B…

MUHUHAHAHAHA!

by Blue on May 15, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's not Belle Isle

This is

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on May 15, 2008 5:47 PM EDT   0 recs

fine

I updated the stupid picture. I really just wanted a pretty picture to make up for sucky Belisle. I didn’t realize it was going to turn into such an ordeal.

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 6:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ha

for the record, i was just teasing. I’m sorry if I put you in a bad mood.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was already in a bad mood

I think it’s this weather. Enough with the rain already!

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 6:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i blame global warming

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 6:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

who's idea was that?

Global Warming is so stupid. Why did they invent it? I wish it would go away!

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I blame the Republicans

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on May 15, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

to be fair

they are the ones who insist it isn’t a real problem that needs to be fixed. So in a way, yeah, me too.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just did it

because it is easier to blame them than the Democrats. If you blame them there is always the inevitable law suit.

*Disclaimer*
I am kidding.

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on May 15, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

youre my favorite righty friend, JSYK

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thank you

Do the Bats have a game tonight? and if so is there a blog we can invade?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on May 15, 2008 7:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it'd be nice

but they just rained out as well

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bats are rained out.

Their stupid web site still says the game is on, but Bats Radio says game banged. Double header tomorrow.

Bruce is keeping his bat dry.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 15, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

IIRC it was a real estate ploy by trump

creating new construction opportunities in Antarctica

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that would not

surprise me

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on May 15, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think Gore invented Global Warming

after he invented the internet.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on May 15, 2008 6:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Belle Isle

I lived in Detroit for a while. Belle Isle is one of the true treasures of the city, yet few non-Detroiters (or race fans, because they held a couple of F1 and CART races there) know of it.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on May 15, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

I knew of it from when I lived in Ann Arbor, but I didn’t think any of the pictures were pretty enough to get across the idea of a beautiful island, which is what I was going for. I’m not sure most people would have gotten the actual Belle Isle reference – like you said no one knows about it. Then again, maybe nobody else got the original reference anyway.

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays

by Slyde on May 15, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i got it

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You two are all over each other.

Reminds me… last night’s after PJ’s heroics, the wife and I queued up Brokeback Mountain. And now I’ve got a question: Why do hundreds of sheep need to be driven to the top of a Wyoming mountain? Was there no space available for grazing? In Wyoming? Here’s what I came up with— the sheep are driven up the mountain to where it’s cooler and their wool grows thicker than it would at sea level in the sumer. Yes? No? Anyone?

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude

I think you missed the point of the movie.

Please Note: I may be totally full of shit.

by jch24 on May 15, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No

It takes more land than you think you graze sheep. There’s not a lot of calories in grass. (Which is why Bush’s switchgrass idea isn’t going to fly, but that’s another story.)

There was a lot of conflict over rangeland out west. (Google sheep wars if you’re interested.)

Taking the animals up the mountain to graze is an old tradition. Like in Heidi. It’s land that’s not good for farming, and may not be accessible to cattle.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 15, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

switchgrass is still way better than corn.

because you don’t need tons of nitrogen fertilizer on it – which is one of the most energy intensive products we make.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 15, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, but...

...at least we make it. Fuel from switchgrass is still pretty much theoretical.

Not that I’m a fan of ethanol. But switchgrass is way overblown.

IMO, what many people don’t understand is if we grow something intensively, it’s going to requires fertilizers, pesticides, and possibly irrigation. Everything we grow once grew like a weed, without our help. It’s the way we grow crops – in monoculture, harvesting year after year – that makes them require all that energy.

If you let switchgrass grow like prairie grass, it dies where it’s grown, and its nutrients go back into the soil. If you graze animals on it, again, the nutrients go back into soil. But if you take it away and burn it in your car…you are going to have to put nutrients back into the soil, in the form of fertilizer.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 15, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fuckin' global warming, that's the problem pal

This is all Al Gore’s fault. Now I’m going to have to sit around and work on all kinds of home projects that Mrs M. will have lined up…..where’s my gun…............where’s my head…Bet Yanni is bummed.

The art of losing isn’t hard to master;
. - Elizabeth Bishop

by Madville on May 15, 2008 6:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Holy crap

Is that a real cover? How did I miss it?

Very cool image.

Rising sea levels could give a whole new meaning to being “underwater” on your mortgage. ;-)

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 15, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I remember being dumbfounded at that magazine cover

but then, I’m struck dumb every time that issue is raised.

by Blue on May 15, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ESPN

has been running a series called Which Will End the World First: Global Warming or Peak Oil? Seems like a rather odd choice for a sports site.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 15, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The end of the world as we know it, will be when the Cincinnati Reds

Baseball Organization begins to act rationally and efficiently. When We have a balanced roster and a balanced manager. When the Reds again win back to back World Series AND when sMarty and clownboy, tHom and Gapper have all be mercifully retired. That Bubba is the the correct choice.

The art of losing isn’t hard to master;
. - Elizabeth Bishop

by Madville on May 15, 2008 7:39 PM EDT   0 recs

I agree

Bubba is the correct choice! :-D

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 15, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Our squad gets a mention at FJM.
Zach Rastall (Marinette, WI): Hi Joe you’re awesome. What should the Brew Crew do about there horredous relief pitching?

Joe Morgan: There’s not much they can do. They invested a lot of money in Eric Gagne, and if he doesn’t work his way out of his problems, it will be a disaster. It hough they should have re-signed Cordero, but they lost him to Cincinnati. They’ll have to live with that decision. Very few general managers will admit their mistakes. Gagne can turn it around, but who knows?


Here’s the thing, man:

No, actually, here’s the things:

They didn’t invest a lot of money in Gagne, relatively speaking. It’s one year, $10m. Now that’s obviously not cheap, especially for an homme who suces as mal as he does, but they can cut him if they want to and next year, it’s back to the drawing board (in a good way). Frankie Cordero, on the other hand, got $46m for four years from the dumbass Reds. He is 33 years old as of last Sunday, and he has walked 11 guys in 15 IP this year. The Reds are going to be paying this guy $10.5m when he is 36 and on the shelf with his eleventh TJ surgery. (Yeah—eleventh. A lot happens to Cordero in the next few years.) And you think the Brewers should have signed him? And you think they’re having a hard time living with the decision not to?

Gagne stinks, and he’s not their closer anymore. They took a risk on a short-term contract and it didn’t pay off. At least it’s not a hamstringingly bad 4 year deal for a mediocre 33 year-old.



Link.

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 15, 2008 9:00 PM EDT   0 recs

i read that

i kinda dont get all this talk from the outside about how the cordero deal will “hamstring” us. It’s only an issue if management isn’t willing to increase the payroll to win, and it seems as if Castellini is willing to spend more if it makes us better. Besides, as I’ve said before, it’s not my money.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's a knee-jerk sabr reaction

to criticize any contract over two years for a reliever, and I agree it’s gotten old.

by ken on May 16, 2008 10:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

that many writers go overboard in hating the contract, but count me among those who thinks we’re 2 years removed from cursing the 20+ million still owed to him.

As boobs said, it’s not our money, but Castellini better not have the gall to cry poor when it comes to replacing everyday players.

Curse and drat, he's outmaneuvered us.

by Man Mountain on May 16, 2008 11:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's a lonly walk when the Reds don't come out to play

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on May 15, 2008 11:17 PM EDT   0 recs

but that's ok

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on May 15, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if the reds take 2 out of 3 from Cleveland

that puts them up to 20-24. I feel like a nice little hot streak right here will put this team right into the thick of things.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on May 15, 2008 11:25 PM EDT   0 recs

question

what is GBs?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on May 15, 2008 11:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

From BaseballReference.com
GBs – Summed Games Back. This was developed by John Dewan of Acta Sports (who publishes a lot of really good baseball books, BTW). He introduced this in a Stat of the Week™. The idea is that you add up how far behind the team is for every team ahead of it in the standings. For example, say the Mets lead the NL EAST with the Braves one game back and the Phillies six back. The Braves are only one game back of the Mets, so GBs=1.0 for them. For the Phillies they are six back of the Mets and five back of the Braves, so their GBs=11.0. It probably isn’t a perfect measure of a team’s difficulty of getting into first place, but it is likely a better measure than just plain old GB. Note that for the wild card this becomes a bit of a mess, but in this calculation we exclude the current division leaders, to give you a number for just the teams in the current wild card race.

Basically, it means we’re fucked.

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 15, 2008 11:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

or does it mean

that we have them just where we want them?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 15, 2008 11:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

By "them" you mean..

the fifteen other teams in the National League?

Maybe that’s Dusty’s plan: “Never let ‘em catch you from behind.”

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 16, 2008 12:04 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Which reminds me of my other question regarding "Brokeback Mountain"...

Do you think that on that first night in the tent when Heath passionately spit on his hand that meant that Jack Twist wasn’t exactly his “first rodeo,” ifyaknowhattamean?

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 16, 2008 12:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ride 'em cowboy!

i haven’t seen the movie

what’s it about?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 16, 2008 12:18 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it's an old western cowboy movie

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on May 16, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

John Wayne type

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on May 16, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i hate john wayne movies

they’re way too manly

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 16, 2008 9:07 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i never really got in to them

but i guess they are for generations past, you know when women and minorities knew their place. The only thing that could save the day was a strong white man. Thank god for blazing sattles tearing down the color burier.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on May 16, 2008 9:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It doesn't get much better than Stagecoach

Then again it was his first starring role so it wasn’t exactly a Duke vehicle.

by Red Menace on May 17, 2008 1:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We're gonna paint this wagon

we’re gonna paint it good

we ain’t braggin’

we’re gonna paint this wood!

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 17, 2008 9:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

innovation genious and brilliance in one convenient package

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 16, 2008 12:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Summed Games Back

the Reds only need to worry about their division right now. Keep winning and the rest takes care of itself, including new fangled stats.

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on May 16, 2008 11:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs