Dusty the Communicator?
Why does Dust bag continue to talk to the media before he talks to his players. Such as today when he said that Cueto's problem was probably New York jitters possibly because he was pitching in front of family, because we know that all Latino people have family in New York. If I were Cueto I would be pissed that my manager is speculating on why I am struggling. I highly doubt it was jitters, I am guessing if that effects him he would have really struggled in his debut.
I can sorta buy the argument that a manager does more than pushes buttons during the game, but Dusty when he isn't botching double switches and writing confusing lineup cards doesn't seem to communicate at all well with his players. Bronson Arroyo didn't find out Dusty thought he had a phsyical problem until the media relied what Dusty told them to Bronson. Freel has openly complained about not knowing when he is going to start. Narron and Miley were rough, and weren't considered to be great communicators, and in Narron's case a horrible in game manager too, but I feel like there weren't any problems like this. After all it was Bench Coach Naron who caught Dusty's mistake when he failed to notify the umpires of a double switch in 2004. The best part of that one was Dusty went out and screamed, yelled, kicked the lineup card, because he failed to do his job.
I feel like Dusty is almost too open to the media. I would much rather have bland comments like, well Cueto really worked hard out there and has a lot of talent and is a great competitor than I think he was nervous about pitching in New York. Yeah it was kind of annoying when Naron told the media that "somebody" will pitch on Saturday. But atleast that didn't piss off his players or sound like a fool.
I guess Dusty is still better than the "Great Communicator". He hasn't armed Iraq and Iran yet.
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Uh
Isn’t the managers primary job to make sure that THE FUCKING BATTERS GO TO THE PLATE IN ORDER.....good Christ. Communicate that, Dustbag.
by Pops Daniels on May 12, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree
Ross or Patterson should have known what was up. They knew every other time they came to bat this season.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on May 12, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only there had been some place in the park that they could have found out when they were up...

"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 12, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silly Slyde,
Scoreboards are for advertisements!
That is why they are called scoreboards,
Oh wait…
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on May 12, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dusty
I think Dusty pocketed the money the Reds were dumb enough to throw at him and is going through the motions. Mistakes happen, sometimes you’re team just isn’t that great but I have never cared for his managerial style. Yes how does a manager and his bench coach screw up letting the players know the new batting order?
How much wood does a woodchuck chuck if he's using a chainsaw.
by Pilsner73 on May 12, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This
is the second time he’s done it. I cannot believe it.
by Pops Daniels on May 12, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A post over at RL Nation
said it was his 3rd time.
Buzzards and dreadful crows: necessary evils, I suppose
by Man Mountain on May 12, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to retrosheet
It’s happened 14 times since 1990. Dusty has 3 of them.
http://www.retrosheet.org/outturn.htm
"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 12, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'll also note from that link
that on May 4, 1980, Dusty batted out of order for the Dodgers. Dusty will not be confined by your “rules”.
(Thanks to a commenter at RLN for pointing that out. I had only looked at his managerial career.)
"Hard being everybody’s hero, I suppose." - Buck O'Neil on Willie Mays
by Slyde on May 12, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the problem
Dusty the player hit a 3-run homer in his “proper” at-bat. That’s how he thinks these things are supposed to work. It’s called “playing the percentages,” Slyde. That’s what good managers do.
by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, you know
if you were to look on the bright side, it was one of Corey Patterson’s better ABs this season. Leave it to Dusty to coax the best out of his players.
by Pops Daniels on May 12, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am no Fan of Dustbag's.
But you know, everyone fucks up royally every now and then. I don’t think Dusty is a poor communicator with his team compared to most managers. In fact I think it is one of his few and far between strong points.
Never thought I’d be defending ol’ AntiClog.
But when it is raining shit, it is raining shit.
Eeyore has more fun than a Reds fan.
by Madville on May 12, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i just don't see any signs of his communication skills
I see players being surprised by what the media says Dusty said.
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on May 12, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
He’s already had public miscommunications with Arroyo and Freel.
I didn’t expect Baker to be a master tactician, but I did expect him to maintain a happy clubhouse.
by ken on May 12, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and jay bruce about his injury history
Buzzards and dreadful crows: necessary evils, I suppose
by Man Mountain on May 12, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay doesn't get injuries, he gives 'em!
He weakens knees and breaks hearts.
...ladies.
by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too mention spirits of opposing pitchers...
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on May 12, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... by too, i obviously mean to...
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on May 12, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Numerous Reds, Phillips, Dunn, Hatte etc have commented on how Dusty keeps everybody pretty well informed and is accessable.
And remember I am comparing him to the average big league manager who mainly glares and grumbles at the players.
Eeyore has more fun than a Reds fan.
by Madville on May 12, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason Dusty is well liked by the veterans
is because he won’t play the kids. Neifi should be on his way about now.
by HuskerFan on May 14, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to Edinson, Ceuto, and Votto.
Dustbag is OTL in many ways, but I do believe he has a real desire to win, even though he has man love for CoPat and Hairstunned.
The art of losing isn’t hard to master;
. - Elizabeth Bishop
by Madville on May 14, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think every major league manager has a "real desire to win"
I think Jerry Narron, Dave Miley, and Bob Boone aslo had a desire to win. Dave Miley had one losing season as a minor league manager, and in some ways it is tougher for a minor league team to win year in and year out, since the roster is a merry go round and generally the best players go up to the next level, and the organization doens’t really care if the Minor League teams win championships. Yeah they may stash a Tom Shearn or Ricky Stone type of 4-A player down there but they are merely place holders because somebody has to pitch and play al the positions.
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on May 14, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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