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Game Thoughts: Cueto Go!

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Here's the buzz from Maricopa County:

CINCINNATI - With Reds phenom Johnny Cueto set to make his major league debut on Thursday, Diamondbacks second baseman Orlando Hudson did some digging to find a scouting report on the young right-hander.

Hudson was told by a friend that Cueto was reminiscent of a young Pedro Martinez.

Ken Griffey Jr. might make a good advance scout one day.

"I was like, 'OK, we'll see,' " Hudson said. "He wasn't lying."

Cueto dazzled for seven innings on Thursday afternoon, allowing just one hit and striking out 10 to lead the Reds to a 3-2 victory over the Diamondbacks and give Cincinnati the rubber game of this season-opening series.

The 22-year-old retired 21 of the 22 batters he faced. Justin Upton's solo home run in the sixth was all that stood between Cueto and seven perfect innings.

"He's got great stuff and he pounds the zone with it, that's what makes him effective," Upton said. "He's just a great pitcher."

As Cueto was pumping strikes with three pitches, Diamondbacks left-hander Doug Davis had major problems finding the strike zone. Davis, making the first of two scheduled starts before undergoing surgery for thyroid cancer, was all over the place with his fastball, routinely falling behind in the count on his way to six walks in 3 2/3 innings.

"I had no rhythm out there whatsoever," Davis said. "I was falling behind and just couldn't find a release point."

Cueto had no such problems, and it was evident after he struck out the first batter of the game - Chris Young, on a low, 96 mph fastball - that the Diamondbacks might be in for a long afternoon.

"He's got great stuff," Eric Byrnes said. "Fastball spotted to both sides. Good breaking ball, threw his change-up. He had everything."

In the second inning, Cueto got Byrnes lunging at a slider before striking out Mark Reynolds with another 96 mph fastball. In the third, he beat Upton with a 95 mph fastball. He blew another fastball past Young in the fourth, then caught Chris Burke looking at a slider.

He didn't even throw his first change-up until the fifth, and he threw it three consecutive times in the sixth inning to strike out pinch-hitter Jeff Salazar. The final change-up to Salazar registered at 88 mph.

How's this for stuff? A fastball at 96 mph, a slider between 88-90 mph and a change-up in the upper-80s.

"That's Jake Peavy-like - he's got that type of stuff," Hudson said. "If he holds out (stays healthy), and I hope he does, he'll have a great career."

 And here is the Enquirer's pile of good quotes about young Johnny.

And Daugherty also had a pile of good quotes from the Reds' joyous postgame lockerroom.  (Oddly, I found his article on the AZ Republic's website but couldn't locate it on the Enquirer's.)

So, what are ya'll thinking?

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I think Johnny Cueto has earned another start

i am not going to lie his last two starts in spring training worried me. Generally stats become more important the later it is in spring training. I thought maybe now that hitters had cought up to pitching we would be in for a rough ride. Maybe he knew he locked up the job and took a little off and "worked on some things".

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Apr 4, 2008 10:46 AM EDT   0 recs

Maybe it was just spring training.

There's nothing in Cueto's history to indicate he's going to do things like walk 5 batters in an inning anywhere near often. When something is that much of an outlier, you don't worry about it, as long as it doesn't indicate an injury.

by Geki on Apr 4, 2008 12:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was at the game...

...where he didn't make it out of the first inning. With an obnoxious Pirates behind me, who kept saying, "THAT's why he's going to the MINOR leagues" every time the kid threw a ball.

But I wasn't all that worried. It was one game. His stuff looked good. It was just not over the plate. (In some cases, it was over the plate, but the umpire didn't see it that way.) Even the best occasionally have days like that.

by BubbaFan on Apr 4, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Everything about this

was a good sign.

We all knew his stuff was nasty. What was great about this outing was the fact that he was locating all of his pitches for strikes, and wasn't fazed at all by a big league stadium in his debut, or by the last couple of outings he had in spring training.

Worse lately: Being a Bengals fan or Being a Reds fan?

by jmgard6 on Apr 4, 2008 11:02 AM EDT   0 recs

Haven't we already discussed this? :-)

"The only people who like Jimmy Buffett are frat boys and alcoholic girls in the south" ~ Eric Cartman

by chandrathan on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HAH

I guess I'm gonna get that for a while.

Worse lately: Being a Bengals fan or Being a Reds fan?

by jmgard6 on Apr 4, 2008 11:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is anyone attending the game tonight?

I'm not sure about the weather...

"The only people who like Jimmy Buffett are frat boys and alcoholic girls in the south" ~ Eric Cartman

by chandrathan on Apr 4, 2008 11:07 AM EDT   0 recs

I'll be there.

The rain's supposed to subside in the afternoon, but it's supposed to be somewhat cold and windy. I can't pass up my chance to see Josh Fogg in action...

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 11:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's only one chance to see his debut in a Reds uniform

Make sure you keep that ticket stub.

WHY SHOULD I CHANGE IT? HE'S THE ONE WHO SUCKS!

by Slyde on Apr 4, 2008 11:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm thinking about starting a Josh Fogg cheering section.

Because, come on, he's never had one of those before. All I need is a catchy name and some signs.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 11:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Fogg Horns!

Fogg Hats?

Fogged-in?

What the Fogg?

Fogg-it about it?

Fogg off!

The Fogg Union - shortened to Fogg U!

WHY SHOULD I CHANGE IT? HE'S THE ONE WHO SUCKS!

by Slyde on Apr 4, 2008 11:22 AM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Muthafoggers.

Although the air horn potential of the Fogg Horns is enticing...

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 11:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fogg.9

(Career ERA)

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Apr 4, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fancy Billboard on 75

The video billboard that can be seen from 75 north showed Josh Fogg holding a ball and said "Forecast: Fogg" this morning. That cracked me up.

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 4, 2008 11:40 AM EDT to parent up   1 recs

I'm going

got some 5th row seats in right field for 11 bucks with the college/teen night half off deal.

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 4, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Umm...

I also got 5th row seats in right field for 11 bucks with the college/teen night half off deal. What section are you in?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 11:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

143

row e

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 4, 2008 1:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Okay this is weird.

Me too, seriously.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 1:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dad??

Just kidding. seats 1-5

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 4, 2008 1:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Did you buy them opening day?

I did.

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 4, 2008 1:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Negative. A friend of mine got them yesterday.

And my friend that told me where they were must be an idiot, because that would be impossible for my seats to be exactly the same as yours (plus one).

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hmmm

theres a chance i'm in 142. I don't have the tix with me. I was pretty sure it was 143 though. I should be easy to spot, I'll be the white guy in a Reds hat.

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 4, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks, that narrows it down.

If things go my way, I'll be the idiot with the air horn, organizing the first congregation of the muthafogging FoggHorns.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fogg Pound

May be too reminiscent of Cleveland, though.

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 4, 2008 2:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Foggalicious. T-t-tasty, tasty.

You can see me, you can't squeeze me.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Apr 4, 2008 4:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cueto

J.C. is eerily reminiscent of a young Pedro (not the 35 Win Shares version yet obviously). He has an easy motion and the pitches have late movement. Everyone knows about the consistent 96mph heater, and the plus slider...but it has been common knowledge that his go to pitch is that changeup. Devastating is the word ive heard describing it.

Heh, spoke to my connection with the Reds. Should have a Cueto auto ball otw asap, it will go b/t the Arroyo and the Harang.

by obc2 on Apr 4, 2008 11:42 AM EDT   0 recs

I've heard...

the change referred to as "Bugs Bunny-like". And, after watching the game yesterday, I agree. Just filthy.

Illusions Michael. Tricks are what whores do for money...and candy.

by Steve Holt on Apr 4, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you folks have a good weekend

i am off to dig for artifacts and get so drunk I don't know who i am. Last weekend when of my classmates ate a ladybug, and the prof drove around the nature center drunk. So yeah we drink first dig second. Best thing is it is a 4-credit hour class.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Apr 4, 2008 12:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Eh... he was ok

heh heh

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 4, 2008 12:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Marty?

WHY SHOULD I CHANGE IT? HE'S THE ONE WHO SUCKS!

by Slyde on Apr 4, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just curious

How many of you would of pulled Cueto out of the game if he had not given up the home run in the 6th. Would you allowed him a chance for infamy or would want to protect his arm and pull him after the 7th or 8th?

by Ksteige on Apr 4, 2008 1:31 PM EDT   0 recs

I wouldn't have personally.

His pitch count was low enough and he was working quickly enough that I'd have waited until that first hit.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 4, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It really depends on what his pitch count was

He didn't seem to be struggling at all, so I wouldn't be too concerned about over-exertion. And if he was still under 100 pitches like he was yesterday, I would have sent him out for the 8th. Not sure about the 9th though. Not in his first game of the season.

WHY SHOULD I CHANGE IT? HE'S THE ONE WHO SUCKS!

by Slyde on Apr 4, 2008 1:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

bud smith

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Apr 4, 2008 2:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Perfect Game

Is a once in a lifetime opportunity... leave him in.

Illusions Michael. Tricks are what whores do for money...and candy.

by Steve Holt on Apr 4, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah... but so are the playoffs

Or at least that's the way it seems these days being a Cincy fan.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 4, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I wouldn't keep him in just to keep him in

I'm more concerned about the big picture of the season than the story of one game. Thankfully it didn't matter.

WHY SHOULD I CHANGE IT? HE'S THE ONE WHO SUCKS!

by Slyde on Apr 4, 2008 3:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"Thankfully it didn't matter"

The essence of the last 18 years.

I've got a plan and it's as hot as my pants...

by Man Mountain on Apr 4, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I would of had him pitch

I don't care if his pitch count was 150 pitches and his rotator cuff was being held in place by a rubber band. It is not my place to mess with destiny. Until he gave up that first hit he would of been in the game.

by Ksteige on Apr 6, 2008 9:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kent Mercker wants to rub you nipples.

From Fay:

Me: "This kid's pretty good, eh?"
Merck: "You know what, Volquez is just as good."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 4, 2008 3:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Bill Hall

Is tearing it up today. And it's not against the Reds.

by Senor Pez on Apr 4, 2008 3:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah. The Brewas are putting some early pressure on the back end of our rotation.

And it's not over, but the Cubs are being dominated by Chris Sampson.

And it appears the Tigers shall soon be 0-4.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 4, 2008 4:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hurray for

#1 waiver priority. I had it this week in my keeper league and picked up Cueto. Yahoo didnt have him listed in their player section until after he was added to the reds 40 man. Bruce and Longoria were both listed so Im not sure how that works.

by CamIam on Apr 4, 2008 4:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Jealous.

My team needs Cueto kinda like last year's Milton-and-Lohse Reds needed Cueto. Instead, I got John Danks and can't-think-of-his-name-right-now guy on the Angels.

It's gonna be a looong season for the Capital City Goofballs.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 4, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cueto rulez

Scared by the new look...

by crolfer on Apr 4, 2008 6:03 PM EDT   0 recs

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