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Around SBN: Terry Collins, David Wright, And The Mets/Brewers Kerfuffle

Game 29 Thread Part II: Reds down by 5, 3-2

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time for a rally

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

rallies are for losers

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

RALLY CAPS

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOM BOOM CLAP

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

This team sure can mash when the game's out of reach.

But when they need a clutch hit, forget it. Hope someone asks Phillips about the 4 LOB today.

by bengalred on Apr 30, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

This team's offense is truly terrible

seriously. where do they have LOB statistics for team and individuals?

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Apr 30, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

If Schumaker gets a hit here.

He is an ALS. I don’t care how tall he is.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

the ball that freel dove at

was it slicing or just a bad route

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

it fooled him off the bat

and he slipped.

It’s a miracle it stayed in front of him

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

both

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

question

bruce isnt an option, who would you rather have start? Freel, hopper, or patterson?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

can i get

a real answer?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I have to

Patterson

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

f'reel?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

no was the real answer

nobody wants any of those guys starting. they cant get on base. they’re below replacement level. NO

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

id take patterson

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's your baseball reasoning for this

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can

hit the ball out of the infield and plays smarter defense than freel

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he has a .280 on-base percentage

not that on-base percentage matters

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

may not be a leadoff hitter

but hes better than freel

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dare you to support this argument

with something other than vague impressions.

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

see below

i.e. Caleb

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's convenient

are you sure he’s a better hitter than freel?

If so, how do you know? In what sense is he a “better” hitter?

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you are saying we resign Castro

and put him in CF right?

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on May 1, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

defensively, he's better than the other two

offensively, he’s one of the worst in the majors at doing the most important thing in baseball. in 2005 he had a -16.8 VORP. That means he cost his team 17 runs compared to a replacement-level hitter. On his career, he’s right around 0. He’s not good.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is vorp?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

stuff you make arguments out of

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Value over Replacement Player

The number of runs a player would create over and above (or under and below) freely available talent.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you've been here a while...

you HAVE to know what vorp is.

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

never heard of the term untill today

looks like im still wet behind the ears

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh ok then...

it gets talked about quite a bit though

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

given the 3 choices

I’d take Patterson. he is the best of the 3 defensively, a better base stealer (provided he ever gets on again). I’d hit him 8th

but the best move is bring up the Bruce

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

good argument

I agree

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's why he's a rr hall of famer

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt freel strike out alot when he started everyday?

patterson may not have a high OBP but he doesnt stikeout as much, which is good for a leadoff hitter

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, strikes don't mean squat for a lead-off hitter

His primary job is to get on base. Patterson has shown no ability to do that in his career.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would never advocate

playing him as a lead off hitter.

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corey as a lead off hitter

.251/ .296/ .424

pretty lousy stuff

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i disagree with that

you raise your chances to get on base making contact with the ball, while striking out gives you no chance what so ever

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong again.

If there were a leadoff hitter who struck out 60% of the time (i.e., about 400 times a season) but got on base the other 40% of the time, he would be a pretty good leadoff hitter.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except that Corey Patterson does not get on base

whether he strikes out or not.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may be a baseball player

but you analyze the game like one of their girlfriends

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

do knowing stats?

get you the ladies? i need to read up…lol

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not about "knowing stats"

it’s your complete inability to recognize what skills make a player valuable in a given role. In that way, you remind me of my mom. When she’d been in the US 6 months. When I was in t-ball.

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i never said i would place patterson

in a leadoff position

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

above
patterson may not have a high OBP but he doesnt stikeout as much, which is good for a leadoff hitter

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just comparing him to freel

the question was would i rather have freel or patterson, and when dusty plays them they both bat leadoff, so i was comparing them leading off

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

shortstop, you can't teach man mountain anything...

he’s a tar heel what ya gonna do?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

a comparison which favors Freel quite a bit

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

I’m not a fan of Freel in the lead off spot either. The edge, in my mind, he has over Patterson is in Versatility

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want any of these jokers leading off

but in comparison, yes, I’ll take Freel given their career averages. Patterson’s speed and little extra power are nice, but over the course of a season Freel will be on base about 35 times more than Patterson will.

There’s no versatility that makes up for that kind of drop.

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

when was the last time Freel

was cut by the worst team in the American league and signed to a minor league contract at the age of 28?

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw

mike piazza had a pretty high OBP would you bat him leadoff?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, Piazza OBP right now is actually pretty low

but it’s still 23 points higher than Patterson’s. That should tell you something.

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

.318 .364 .571 .935

leading off an inning for Piazza. Corey ain’t even close

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well in 1995 his OBP was .400

but he had only 1 stolen base..would you bat him leadoff?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

over freel/patterson?

yes

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

but how many teams in baseball

bat a person with 1 stolen base a year in the lead off spot? All im saying is OBP doesnt mean everything

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Reds in the 70's

had a guy named Rose who didn’t steal many bases. He never stole more than 9 for the Reds in a season in the 70’s. But that worked out ok

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually in 1979

pete stole 20 bases

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and 1977

he stole 16

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes he did

but look at 74-75-76

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by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many years did pete bat

leadoff?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost all of them

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by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pete Rose

Batted leadoff in 2313 games (though not all for the Reds), and only had 125 SBs in those games. Unlike any recent Reds leadoff batter, however, he had an OBP of .379 over that span.

by Gray on Apr 30, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

was caught almost as many times

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by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

for what team?

and actually I stand corrected (but not for 1979)

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by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

piazza had the team high obp that year, (besides castro who batted 23 times) and did he lead off?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you realize that stealing bases is not sound strategy don't you?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

because he did other things very well. But the question is could he have?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'd want his 1.000 OPS

batting bedding behind Jose Offerman’s .389 OBP and Eric Karros’s .369 OBP.

If you gave me 1995 Mike Piazza vs. whenever you want Corey Patterson and said I had to take one and bat him lead off for 162 games, I’d take Mike Piazza, fill the rest of my lineup with Yadier Molina-bots and beat the Corey Patterson Versatilians 162 games to 0. Mercy rule each game.

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

who would you have lead off for the reds?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

adam dunn

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

i would bat him off leadoff because with 40 hrs a year, i would want a chance of having people on base when he hits them. And if he batted leadoff wouldnt he get less walks therefore lowering his obp?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

*wouldn't

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't bat him leadoff

but you might be interested to know that going into today, Corey Patterson has had 2 more plate appearances with men on base than Dunn, even though Dunn has had 12 more plate appearances overall.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's because the people that get on base bat at the bottom of the order

and are there when patterson bats..

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

because he strikes out too much to lead off

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would dunn get less walks hitting leadoff?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

because it seems

whenever dunn gets walked intentionally, there is a man on second, and the team would rather face someone else, and i dont think that would happen as much batting leadoff

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has zero intentional walks this year

and his walk rate is the highest it has ever been. And most of that time he has been batting in front of the hottest batter on the team.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

of the team we have right now

Jeff Keppinger

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd consider Votto

but I’d probably go with either Votto or Keppinger.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

but then we'd have to move Votto to Centerfield

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

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by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

curses!

Why did they implement that rule in baseball in the first place?

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should bat by the number of your

position, that would take care of this mess

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

1.pitcher
2.catcher

so on and so forth

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

but then the pitcher would have to play centerfield

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's clearly a catch 22

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love that band

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Apr 30, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you hip college kids

and your hip bands

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure catch 22

hasn’t actually been popular since 1999

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Apr 30, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah i musta missed them when they were cool

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Although, old Catch 22 > Streetlight Manifesto > new Catch 22

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by BK on Apr 30, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen.

Tom Kalnoky was the awesome of things.

The only catch I still listen to is Keasbey nights.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Apr 30, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just investigating this whole right-side-of-the-thread argument

and i wanted to get to the bottom of it

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

the reason thought why i think he is there

is his speed, when he does get on you want someone someone fast, so hes a threat to take second.

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

HE DOESN'T GET ON BASE

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh?

Do you have to get on base to steal?

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose he could be spending his 72% on the bench

rifling through people’s coats for change

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is true

and i didnt say thats why i would put him there, i thinks thats why dusty does it

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

Dusty does it because Patterson plays center field. It’s in the handbook.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh ok

gotya, forgot about that

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Dusty's pulling in a 7-figure salary

and you’re studying for (God help us) final exams.

How does that make you feel about the Reds’ chances?

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look on the bright side, MM...

At least he isn’t studying to be in charge of all the nuclear weapons.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

freel

If you're not having fun, stop participating.

by redandblue on Apr 30, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

right down broadway

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the damn bullpen

It seems like I keep reading about what a solid, steady job the bullpen is doing. But it seems like every time we’re down one late in a game, the pen gives up 2 or 3 and its over. The pen must have the Dunn syndrome. Up/Down 5 or more and the pen is lights out.

by bengalred on Apr 30, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barton looks like that unathletic kid

who hit puberty before everyone else, but still kind of sucks.

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

you dont understand genetics

he’s black, so he runs fast

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

being a reds fan is awesome!

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

sigh

this is not all that fun to watch. And yet I keep watching.

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

pretend the reds are the other team

it makes it a lot more fun

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

We’re about to go to 17-12

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

see?

now you see

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Bazarowurld...

Winning means losing, and losing means winning.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

the disparity between our OPS with RISP and our opponents’ has got to be ugly.

by bparsonst on Apr 30, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i don't get it

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are you agreeing with?

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was agreeing with the bit about how this is no fun to watch.

by bparsonst on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah man

I was just getting into the game with you. :)

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are crazy

That’s all that needs to be said!

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 30, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry

i was agreeing with the bit about how this is no fun to watch.

by bparsonst on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

who are you sorry to?

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't get it

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boobs...

When you traded me ARod, did you know he was injured?

I’m thinking about filing a grievance..

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

he was fine after i gave him a cortizone shot

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Apr 30, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that wont make it to

selig’s desk for 2 years

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to join in but

aw, fuck it.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. -Tom Waits and others

by Pops Daniels on Apr 30, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

see ya next game!

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Change of Subject

Anyone else say its time to get Phillips out of the # 4 hole?

Find me on MySpace- http://www.myspace.com/mixfmkyle

by MixFMKyle on Apr 30, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

yes

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Put EdE there.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I came here

with the sole purpose of whining about BP in the cleanup spot…

But you beat me to it.

by Gray on Apr 30, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaDouble Play

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

LaToolate.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 30, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Latoothache?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that Dunn coming out on the double switch?

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

no it was votto

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by MixFMKyle on Apr 30, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

nasty

rally time

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by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

RALLY CAPS

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

shit.

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by MixFMKyle on Apr 30, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

well crap

warm up the bus

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome

PlaybyPlay dude for Cardinals just put Hrabosky on the spot about what a “professional hitter” actually means.

“He’s a guy who goes to the plate ready….to hit”

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

We can move this assinine argument down here if yall want

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

ok

this is fun

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm having a blast

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

c and x is the way i roll

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry...

i’m always paranoid that i’m missing comments when i use z

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

sarcastic?

am i making you guys angry? i dont mean too

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

you aren't making me angry...

the reds took care of that :-)

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok good

we should have a emotion meter, so i dont piss anybody off

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have one, it's kept right beside the sarcasm detector

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

never thought to look there

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yess it iss

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

just what this blog needs, the spelling police

justin, head directly to jail

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

so to answer you question chandrathan

whenever dunn gets walked intentionally, there is a man on second, and the team would rather face someone else, and i dont think that would happen as much batting leadoff

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many of Dunn's walks a season are IBB?

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

To answer your question:

According to b-r, 0 of his 24 walks this season are IBB.

by Gray on Apr 30, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

But wait, he's batting fifth?

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i tried to look it up, but my baseball reference skills are not yet ninja level

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've got a math act score as good as andro's

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

andro?

My SAT score was totally better than Zack’s.

by Gray on Apr 30, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

andromache red reporter's resident genious

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing against andromache

But that comment highlights why a distinction like that is akin to winning “Beauty Queen of Urbana.” It’s gotta be someone.

by Brendanukkah on May 2, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have Dunn's page up

I’m trying to get SSv2 to start looking himself

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what you're saying is, he would get more opportunities to hit home runs, since his walk total would be down (a tiny bit)

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

less than ten percent of his walks are intentional

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

or more opporunities to strikeout

whatever floats your boat

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

or more opportunities to do whatever he does

which is get on base at a .380 clip, which is 100 points higher than Patterson.

But at least Patterson’s outs look busy busy busy!!!

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

strikeouts mean nothing with nobody on base

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

they also mean nothing with people on

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't mean double plays

only 5 of Dunn’s 22 SO this season have come with a man or men on base. He has a .421 OBP with men on and has 0 SO with runners in scoring position.

Corey Patterson has 6 total SO this season. 5 with men on, 2 with runners in scoring position. His OBP with men on is .282

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you say "barely legal"

do you mean based on age, or acts performed?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 30, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

acts performed

unlike Roger the Rocket

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 30, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel smarter just reading this whole thread!

Good use of time.

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Apr 30, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

well you guys maybe right, but ill take patterson (leadoff or not)

rather than hopper or freel

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

see above

well going to go eat

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 30, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

...paint chips

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by Man Mountain on Apr 30, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would take Hopper

for this reason…he is my favorite player!

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on May 1, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhere, in a dimly lit room

Juan Castro looks at a letter sent to him by his ”#1 fan, Zach!” and a tear rolls down his cheek. He reaches for a bottle of whiskey to take a hit, but he totally misses his mouth.

by Brendanukkah on May 2, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Slit Wristing Juan Castro

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by Man Mountain on May 3, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me

or was Schumaker out?

It gets crazy on the road, and awful lonely. That's why I love pornography. This next song is all about my love of hardcore, barely legal pornography.

by Slyde on Apr 30, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Game Recap

Harang- This years Matt Cain?
Offense- ugh they only hit when Edison is pitching

Shoe Maker- I agree with Paul H he is an annoying little shit

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on May 1, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't disagree with much that JD offers..

..but the Reds Pythag puts them at 13-17. And that’s only one win away from 14-16.

And I think if we were at 14-16 there wouldn’t be so much navel-gazing going on.

I’ll say it again..

~ Joey Votto
~ Francisco Cordero
~ Johnny Cueto
~ Jared Burton
~ Jay Bruce

I don't know how to paint a banana gourd to look like a Power Ranger.

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 3, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Wrong thread.

Fuck it. All is lost.

I don't know how to paint a banana gourd to look like a Power Ranger.

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 3, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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