Cincinnati Reds @ St. Louis Cardinals GameThread, Apr 28, 2008 8:15 PM EDT

Game 27 Thread: Reds at Cardinals

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 6:15 PM EDT in Game Threads

Cincinnati Reds @ St. Louis Cardinals

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Cincinnati Reds
@ St. Louis Cardinals

Monday, Apr 28, 2008, 8:15 PM EDT
Busch Stadium

Bronson Arroyo vs Todd Wellemeyer

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to center field at 10-20 m.p.h.
Game Time temperature: Around 50.

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Al Behrman/AP (Arroyo), Tom Gannam/AP (Wellemeyer)

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Bronson Arroyo	0-3	7.56	1.84	23	9

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Todd Wellemeyer	2-0	3.77	1.13	31	10

Wellemeyer spent his first 4.5 years in the Majors as a reliever and the results were very meh. Borderline bleh even. Then he gets picked up by St. Louis off of waivers, is put in the starting rotation, and has since posted a 5-1 record with a 3.70 ERA while striking out 7.5 per 9IP and walking 3.7 per 9IP. This leads me to believe this one irrefutable fact: Dave Duncan is a witch.

Here's a fun nugget: Bronson Arroyo has pitched in a game following a win in 3 of his 5 starts this year. In those games he has pitched 15 total innings with an ERA of 10.80, taking the loss in all three games. My point in all of this is, it's all Bronson's fault. Everything. Well, except for the parts that are obviously Dunn and Juniors fault.

I think it's right about time for the first three-game win streak of the season, don't you?

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First.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Apr 28, 2008 6:15 PM EDT 0 recs

Tonight's Lineup

REDLEGS

Corey Patterson CF
Jeff Keppinger SS
Ken Griffey Jr. RF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Adam Dunn LF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Joey Votto 1B
Paul Bako C
Bronson Arroyo P

REDBIRDS

Ryan Ludwick RF
Rick Ankiel CF
Albert Pujols 1B
Chris Duncan LF
Troy Glaus 3B
Yadier Molina C
Adam Kennedy 2B
Todd Wellemeyer P
Cesar Izturis SS

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 28, 2008 6:28 PM EDT 0 recs

I wonder if Dusty is jealous that the Cardinals have Cesar Izturis

Brendon, there's nothing wrong with lying to women. Or the government. Or parents. Or God.

by Man Mountain on Apr 28, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

are we ever moving EdE and Votto up?

and I see it will be a night of name that Molina at the old ball park

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 28, 2008 6:35 PM EDT 0 recs

No.

by Gray on Apr 28, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

I have a rehearsal for a while,

Should be back in time for the last 2/3 or so of the game…

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Apr 28, 2008 6:37 PM EDT 0 recs

rehearse what?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 28, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

giant double-high school choir/band masterworks concert...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Apr 28, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

are you in band or choir?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 28, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

Arroyo

I really think he needs to have an above average game or it will be his last start for awhile. This team needs him to get going and pull his weight.

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Apr 28, 2008 7:02 PM EDT 0 recs

Crazy different time zones...

this game should be on by now

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 7:23 PM EDT 0 recs

If it were on right now Arroyo would be down 3-0.

I don't know how to paint a banana gourd to look like a Power Ranger.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 28, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

bring back the corn rows

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well...it IS on right now...and...in a way it ISN'T

Brendon, there's nothing wrong with lying to women. Or the government. Or parents. Or God.

by Man Mountain on Apr 28, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Scoring runs? I wouldn't say it's our..primary objective.

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

wait, have I used that one before?

That sounds familiar. Or maybe I just jumped consciousness.

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

i think it is known as "quantum leaping"

Abraham Lincoln said that if you're a racist, I will invade you with the north.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 28, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

one of my favorite episodes of any show all time was when he jumped into Lee Harvey Oswald

I didn’t watch that show much, but for some reason that episode really caught my attention. It was fun and exciting.

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

What about Thursday's Lost?

The bodies are starting to pile up

Brendon, there's nothing wrong with lying to women. Or the government. Or parents. Or God.

by Man Mountain on Apr 28, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

That episode kicked ass

I need to watch it again. I’m sure there are at least 10 things that I missed. They can pretty much do anything with that show right now and it will seem like it fits right in.

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

my wife and i borrowed the DVDs of the first 3 seasons

and watched them all over the last 2 months. this past week was our first “live” episode, and man, i hate commercials. the fantasticity of the show is well worth it all though. Ben is turning into quite a badass.

Abraham Lincoln said that if you're a racist, I will invade you with the north.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 28, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

my sister-in-law and her husband did the same thing

they started watching it slowly and then all of the sudden they finished 2.5 seasons in about 2 weeks. Now they are frustrated that it’s not on when they want it.

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm expecting a 10 game winning streak

are we there yet?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Apr 28, 2008 7:29 PM EDT 0 recs

why isn't ross starting with arroyo pitching?

Jake Peavy's Testimony

by shortstopv2 on Apr 28, 2008 7:45 PM EDT 0 recs

hey dudez

what’s the music theme for tomorrow?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 7:49 PM EDT 0 recs

How about smooth jazz favorites?

Urban contemporary?
Top40?
Talk?
Weather and traffic every 20 minutes on the twos?

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 28, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

crotch rock

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

any thoughts on

this guys??

Jake Peavy's Testimony

by shortstopv2 on Apr 28, 2008 7:52 PM EDT 0 recs

freel's got a point...patterson sucks...

but so does freel if he plays every day

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yikes.

Suddenly Dusty’s Superfuntime Clubhouse is not as superfun as we were led to believe.

I don't know how to paint a banana gourd to look like a Power Ranger.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 28, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

Super Phun Thyme

On base percentage? We’ve never heard of on base percentage in 1864.

Brendon, there's nothing wrong with lying to women. Or the government. Or parents. Or God.

by Man Mountain on Apr 28, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

Whats the Superfuntime Clubhouse rever to?

Whatever it is, it sounds super! And fun!

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 28, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

And while you're at it...

What does rever to refer to?

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 28, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

agreed

Yikes.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 28, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm sure Dusty will start playing Freel more

once the warm weather kicks in.

by ken on Apr 28, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

why is that?

Jake Peavy's Testimony

by shortstopv2 on Apr 28, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

i mean the warm weather

what does that have to do with freel?

Jake Peavy's Testimony

by shortstopv2 on Apr 28, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/08/se.16.html

by ken on Apr 28, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

Thats racist

right?

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 28, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up 1 recs

It's hard to argue against him.

The fact of the matter is, Patterson is terrible lately, and Freel is only playing once every four days. Common sense says that with how much the Reds are paying him, that would have been addressed by now. This one’s on Dusty and his man-crush on C-Pat.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

common dusty!

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

common sense!

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

It's probably not helpful to have this out in the media

but, on the bright side, it might force the Reds to do something about the crazy Patterson/Freel/Hairston/Hopper situation. Of course, that “something” might be terrifying.

Brendon, there's nothing wrong with lying to women. Or the government. Or parents. Or God.

by Man Mountain on Apr 28, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

I can't see anything they do about this being that devastating.

Any move they make with those four is going to be a step in the right direction, unless it’s signing any of them to a contract extension. And if the answer isn’t going to be any of them, it’s surely going to be Jay Bruce, and I don’t think anyone would be strongly against that.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Example

Cherry Hudson Jr. gets sent down to make room for Neifi Perez.

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

neifi perez?

when are we gonna get carl crawford?

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

As soon as ctownboy becomes GM

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

You think I'm kidding, don't you?

What position currently has no natural backup?

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah, I should have put a disclaimer there.

Any move with those guys is a good one, unless it involves Neifi Perez.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yikes!

That’s some bad writing. I guess that’s what you’re referring to, because I can’t understand what this story’s supposed to be about. Any guesses? Anyone have the decoder ring?

by Brian B on Apr 28, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

i don't think this game is ever going to start

we’re in commercial now, and we still have a sit down with dusty to come.

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 8:04 PM EDT 0 recs

8:15, yo.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

stupid st. louis

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

Stupid central time zone

Don’t people realize that if it’s not happening on Eastern time, it’s not happening?

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

you'd think espn would have taught them that by now

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hey, Hey, Hey

I hear the reds have a streak going that does not involve losing…

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Apr 28, 2008 8:07 PM EDT 0 recs

That you, Fat Albert?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Apr 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Depends on how you define losing

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

OK.... you found that picture

Listen fellas…. I can totally explain….

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 28, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

are you going to explain the nudity

or the beard? The nudity I can understand…

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'd like to start with the shitty ink

Brendon, there's nothing wrong with lying to women. Or the government. Or parents. Or God.

by Man Mountain on Apr 28, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

That was from my

... beard-chest hair fusion experimental days

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Apr 28, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Steakhoooouse Aaaangussss!!!!!

Bronson needs a good outing tonight. Period.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Brantley wants us to watch his backside tonight

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

OK THATS FUNNY

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 28, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

holy crap

Zito might be going to the pen.

The world’s most expensive middle reliever?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT 0 recs

They're going after some Yankee records there.

I don't know how to paint a banana gourd to look like a Power Ranger.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 28, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'll let you do that

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Apr 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT 0 recs

Pujols is a future hall-of-famer?

Already?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:14 PM EDT 0 recs

The dude has never not finished in the top 10 in MVP voting

That’s a special career worth the hall of fame, even if it ended today.

You're drowning in the past, Mike, and I've got your life jacket right here. It's called the 80s and it's gonna be around forever.

by Slyde on Apr 28, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ok, ok.

I’m not saying he’s not well on his way, it seems like yesterday he was a fresh faced kid who came out of nowhere to start at 3rd for the Cardinals (and my fantasy team that year).

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Apr 28, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Two things:

Could it be that George Grande has finally learned what a “prince albert” is?

and

This has got to be the most sing-songy pair of broadcasters ever to speak into a microphone.

"I never should have given up the animation rights."

by BobbyO on Apr 28, 2008 8:15 PM EDT 0 recs

nevermind

i guess i was wrong about george… another year and this guy still doesnt know what kind of profanity he is spewing on the air… best __ sports show, my ass!

"I never should have given up the animation rights."

by BobbyO on Apr 28, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

I tried

I mentioned to some people there that they may want to pull Mr. Grande aside and explain that every male under 30 is giggling whenever he says “Prince Albert”. :)

Please Note: I may be totally full of shit.

by jch24 on Apr 28, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up 0 recs