More trouble for Clemens?

by jch24 on Apr 28, 2008 10:32 AM EDT

The NY Daily News is reporting that noted slimeball Roger Clemens may have had a long-running affair with deranged hillbilly and former country music singer Mindy Mccready. The catch? It allegedly started when Clemens was 28 and Mccready was 15.

Sporting News link: Report: Clemens had affair with country singer (link pops)

Now I dislike Clemens as much as anyone out there, but I have a hard time believing this one. Mccready has had an, um, "interesting" life since hitting it big early on with her music. Not to mention - why would a 28 year old MLB superstar have an affair with a 15 year old back home when he could pull any tail he wanted from a huge East Coast city?

If anywhere near true it kills that last bit of credibility he had left, no? And sinks his "he said-he said" case against McNamee I would think.

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by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions

also, you are wrong

i believe this to be 100% true.

I’ve always hated Clemens, and I’m relishing in his fall.

Also, I think he’s getting off very easy compared to barry bonds.

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by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions

She's a cutie

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by Madville on Apr 28, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

and say he was hitting it when she looked like this:

by Geki on Apr 28, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

younger

much younger

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by chandrathan on Apr 28, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Roger's saying must be

If there’s grass on the field, PLAY BALL!

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by MixFMKyle on Apr 28, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

Nah

Roger don’t swing that way no more.

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by Pops Daniels on Apr 28, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions

Roger is officially a D-Bag...

Anyone who does something like that… especially when he has two kids… especially when the chick is half his age should just go to jail… hmmmm…. Two kids? Huge age difference? Rings a bell for me… This does it… Roger should frickin… god dang…

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by crolfer on Apr 28, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions

In my book...

...he’s been officially a d-bag since he threw that broken bat at Mike Piazza.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 28, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions

This is a pretty ballsy story

I realize that it must have some legs if multiple news outlets have decided to run with it, but so far I’ve only seen anonymous sources quoted. I have no love for Clemens, but that seems awfully shady.

Moreover, the allegations seem to be coming from people surrounding Mccready and her “comeback” campaign. If it turns out that their relationship was sexual, then Clemens is fucking toast. If he turns out to be telling the truth, he’s gonna be able to sue this shit out of everyone, it seems to me.

What do you folks closer to the Journo and Law professions think of this thing?

Brendon, there's nothing wrong with lying to women. Or the government. Or parents. Or God.

by Man Mountain on Apr 28, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Not that I really know.

But Clemens has to count as a public figure under the NYT v Sullivan test. Therefore, he has to prove actual malice. Since it’s a somewhat believable story, he would have a libel case against anyone who definitely knew it was false.

I could be totally wrong.

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by andromache on Apr 28, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Go ahead.

Just take the LSAT already.

Actual malice is tough – you’d have to prove that the Daily News knew it was false. It’s probably enough for someone from McCready’s camp to have fed this bit to the paper.

by ken on Apr 28, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I think this is correct

Proving actual malice is really difficult. Here is a really oversimplified breakdown of libel laws and all that jazz. I would be shocked if he were to sue and win. Too many people would have to bring too much proof that the original publisher of the story acted in a manner that they knew was a lie and tried to hurt ‘ol Roger. No way that happens.

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by Pops Daniels on Apr 29, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Moot

McCready: “I cannot refute anything in the story,” McCready told the newspaper in a story posted on its Web site Monday night. “I have known Roger Clemens for a long time,” she said, without detailing the nature of their relationship.

Clemens’ lawyer denies that they had an improper relationship, but guys do it all the time.

by ken on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

twofold rec'd

it was funny, and i’ve been trying to remember for two days the name of the song she sang.

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by chandrathan on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Thanks

I heard that she had confirmed the story, but hadn’t been able to find a story on it. Clemens is in DEEP shit at this point. I’m sure it will come out that she was of age when they started being sexual (bullshit), but it will still kill his case against McNamee.

My question is: how deranged is this man? To think he can get away with anything he wants whenever he wants? Has he really never faced consequences for his actions? Never?

Please Note: I may be totally full of shit.

by jch24 on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions

My question is:

what would he have named any out-of-wedlock children? Would the names all begin with a “k”, but lowercase?

by ken on Apr 29, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions

backwards k!

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by andromache on Apr 29, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions

katastrophe?

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by jch24 on Apr 29, 2008 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Kracker Jr.?

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by Pops Daniels on Apr 29, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

He’s never faced the consequences of his actions. Comes with the territory when you’re a baseball star.

Money and fame have always gotten him out of trouble in the past, and now he can’t see that it won’t work this time.

Mike Celizic had a story about it.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 29, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

A good read

As well as some of the linked articles. Man, what a douche that guy is.

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by jch24 on Apr 30, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions

"I have known Roger Clemens for a long time"

biblically, baby.

Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

by Man Mountain on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions

I fucking loved

Kelly’s Heroes.

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by Pops Daniels on Apr 29, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Crolfer...dude anyone who'd doing the 'Brokeback' on the mound is a certified D-bag.

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by Madville on Apr 29, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Yawn

I know if this is true it is a big story but I’m just bored with “The Fall of Clemens” stuff.

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by Zach K on Apr 29, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions

More dirt on Clemens

Looks like he was doing John Daly’s wife too.

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 1, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions

This is getting embarrassing

He knew he had all these skeletons in his closet, what possessed him to file the defamation suit in the first place?

I’ll also be taking bets on the over/under of mistresses that end up being revealed. We’re at three thus far, I’ll set it at 6.5.

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by jch24 on May 1, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

at this rate, the over will be passed by monday.

In the end, life and business are about human connections. And computers are about trying to murder you in a lake. And to me the choice is easy.

by chandrathan on May 1, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't know what the final number will be

but I’m starting to get suspicious of people I know, even if they haven’t met him.

Will everybody who has not had sex with Roger Clemens please raise your hand.

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by Slyde on May 1, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd raise my hand

But I’m afraid of what might end up in my opened armpit.

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by jch24 on May 1, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Asked if she had been romantically involved with Clemens, Daly replied: “You know what, I’m really uncomfortable talking about this. I’m just going to have to say, ‘No comment.’
“I know Roger. I consider him a good friend. That’s all I’m comfortable saying.”

So, we’ll take that as a yes?

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by Slyde on May 1, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions