Game 22 Thread: Reds vs. Astros

Win one for “Red” Jocketty!

Didn’t think this was applicable in the Kriv thread, so I saved it till now: I don’t quite understand all the optimism surrounding David Lee. he didn’t hit to save his life last year, and didn’t in minor league ball so far this year. I know he’s Arroyo’s personal catcher, which may substantially help Bronson, and I know he’s got some power, and is good defensively. I just think it’ll be a mistake if Bako is relegated to pitch hitting now. (I had no idea Bako was 36, that’s old, but he should be rode while hot) Finally, why is Javy on the team. I’d love to see a DFA there and Hatte maybe being traded (just because he’s getting no PT) no open up the roster for some revamping.

I know i’ve been clamoring for it.

havent heard anything in a while

(In a while.)

“WORST game thread EVER” (and game, for that matter)

and this thread is back alive…for the time being

Don’t they know there’s a game thread going on?

I think the Reds need to put him on the DL. I think he may just need about 15 days or so off to rest his arm. When a pitcher is strugging like Arroyo I take it with a grain of salt when he says he is healthy. I have been lied to too many times, remember when Paul Wilson and Brandon Claussen insisted they were healthy? His velocity keeps dropping. I checked gameday, his first day he was hitting his normal 89-91 with his fastball. In his third start against Pittsburgh he was hitting 91 in the first couple of innings, and hasn’t been there since. I think the hardest he threw today was 89, mostly 85-87. I am guessing that something is wrong, and if his fastball is down, that means his breaking balls probably don’t have the same break on them.

I am tired of Brantley talking about Arroyo and saying he doesn’t throw enough fastballs. Arroyo is a curvball artist, who throws fastballs to keep them off balance, I know it is backwards and unconventional but it is Arroyo. He has about 80 different Curveballs, and a slider, ranging from about 68-82. Plus Marty claims that Arroyo hasn’t been good for almost 2 solid years, the only time he pitched well was before the All-Star break in 2006. In September of 2006 he pitched very well. He pitched very well the first 6 weeks last season, struggled after that 129 pitch outing, but was solid through the rest of the season. But he has only won 8 games since the 06 All Star break, so he must have just been awful.

He threw a lot of pitches and was relying on the old ‘slowball’. Not good news at all. Poor J Kepp hitting into to back to back double plays – rally killers, – Jerry Jr. looks lost in CF, Grif looked good at the plate and in the field. BP should get the free swinger award – it was like he wanted to kill the ball at every pitch, Dunn is coming around – hitting th ball to Left with authority. EdE looked uncomfortable at the plate despite his late game Rally Killer, Votto must be moved up in the line up – he has no fear and stings the ball.Good to see David Lee back…Hatte loooks uncomfortable as a PH, Freel looks beyond frustrated, LLM looks like he needs some PAs, Poor Corey Patterson is absolutely looking lost at the plate despite his double, Fogg was very hittable,Murker and Affleck were stronge, Mike Lincoln was off. There was such a feeling of malais by the team last night. Maybe they were in mourning for Waynr.

Dusty left Bronson in way too long. The way BA’s been going Dustybag should have had somebody loosening in the pen as soon as Houston started to tee off.

This is not a happy cohesive team.3 catchers, 2 LH Batting 1st basemen, no back up at short, 5 or 6 outfielders, and a manager who doesn’t react to his pitcher’s distress but makes all kinds of ridiculous moves later in the gaem which basically said ‘I give up’.

We had great seats (Mrs. M, daughter #2, daughter #2’s boyfirend and me) – 10th row between home and 1st,. Although the announced attendance was 16K, the place was pretty empty and very very white. Due the the need for medically prescribed drinking and then we stupidly ate some food we dropped about $225.00

All in all – Heads are gonna roll, sooner than later – Bob and Jocko ain’t going to put up with losing game and losing money.

Jerry Jr. is no answer. I wish him well. Bring up Bruce.Well it is late and I don’t have my glasses on so I’m can’t proofread this rambling treatise.
Good night Go REDS

Is there a back-up site for us to go to in case of emergency?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU6IKFNY7OM

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