Reds and Braves Today

by justin0070000 on Mar 8, 2008 11:24 AM EST

Norris Hopper CF
Jeff Keppinger SS
Ken Griffey Jr. RF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Adam Dunn LF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Scott Hatteberg 1B
Javier Valentin C
Jay Bruce DH

P Jeremy Affeldt vs. Buddy Carlisle. Also pitching: Mike Lincoln, Justin Lehr, Tom Shearn, Gary Majewski and Jon Coutlangus. Also available: Tyler Pelland, Marcus McBeth, Ramon Ramirez. Josh Roenicke and Daryl Thompson.

Via Fay.

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Wait...

Bruce is batting... last?

You can't have manslaughter without laughter

by crolfer on Mar 8, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions

I'm sure the Braves will appreciate the BP

by ken on Mar 8, 2008 12:16 PM EST reply actions

Saw this at THT

Clearly a player that Dusty wouldn't like:

Don't talk back to Darth Vader or he'll getcha!

by Slyde on Mar 8, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions

Where's Votto...

This line up smells of opening day with lots of VP
Good to see Kepp in there over Cato and it is good that Jay B------------ get some Abs. But I'm just grumbling, sitting here at work with nothing productive todo.

Core dude - Dustbag's core is not the core that is the core.

by Madville on Mar 8, 2008 12:50 PM EST reply actions

you actually opened today

I thought everything was closed.

Don't talk back to Darth Vader or he'll getcha!

by Slyde on Mar 8, 2008 12:52 PM EST up reply actions

I'm wanting some pizza and/or chinese...

You think anyone will bring it to me?

As the old saying goes..."Bart Needs Dentures"

by chandrathan on Mar 8, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions

It does look like a "real" Dusty lineup

And notice that Jay is batting in the pitchers spot. Probably pretty telling of what his plans for him are. (and I don't mean be the starting pitcher. probably shouldn't give Dusty any ideas.)

"Just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it." - George Costanza

by beasleymachine on Mar 8, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions

Threadjack!!!!

How deep is the snow where everyone is? I just checked here in the bustling metro area of Bridgetown and I have 13" on my back porch. Blech.

by jch24 on Mar 8, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions

Ada, OH

we have about 7 inches, that is not offical, I am completely eye balling it, but teh snow is up to my window ceil.

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by justin0070000 on Mar 8, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions

No snow here

It's been raining for days. Flood watches have been posted. The mountains of snow melted into slush, then into mud. Thousands of drowned worms all over the sidewalks and parking lots. Water fountaining up from manholes and catch basins.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions

Snow

I'm in Crestwood, KY (5 minutes outside of Louisville) and we've got about 8 inches. I had to drive home in that last nite and uhh...it's pretty incredible.

by TheClashing on Mar 8, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions

I've shovelled 5 times

since yesterday at 1:00 pm. I live in Conneaut Lake, PA, which is 45 minutes south of Erie. Don't know how many inches, but my snow piles are becoming too high to throw the snow! I used to live in Florida (15 years ago)!

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by gejoe on Mar 8, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions

Columbus, OH

we got 10 inches and its still snowing pretty hard out there. i tossed my cat (the real charlie scrabbles) out into it and he totally flipped out.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

No snow in NoVA

Just rain and a lotta wind.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 8, 2008 11:30 PM EST up reply actions

what would be the gameday abbreviations for yanks

and tb. NYY or NYA, and what is tampa bay, just TB?

by The Crushinator on Mar 8, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions

nya and tba

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by gejoe on Mar 8, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions

Yankees

are usually NYA on MLB.com URLs.

What I do is take the game ID from the box score URL (via the MLB scoreboard page), and just plug it into the Gameday URL.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions

Speaking of which...

...here's the Gameday link for today's game.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions

Thankya, ma'am.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 8, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions

did tHom just say...

that barry larkin is in the dugout? that is f***ing awesome if true!

suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Mar 8, 2008 1:58 PM EST reply actions

Well...

...that was ugly.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions

This should take

Affeldt out of the running for a spot in the rotation. I think Cueto is now a lock for the rotation (unless he melts down or gets hurt). So we're looking at Fogg, Volquez, Bailey for the last spot, in that order imo.

by CamIam on Mar 8, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions

I doubt you count take Affeldt out just yet.

I think he's pitched pretty well until today.

Please don't consider me a proponent of Jeremy Affeldt as a starter but I think his groundball-to-flyball numbers have been pretty good (I think..I checked them after his last outing) and I'm sure that he might have some sort of edge as he is the only lefthanded contender for a starting job.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 8, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions

BTW, please pardon my Fay.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 8, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions

The lefty thing

I think it will matter, but I'm not sure that it should.

The NL Central is ridiculously Righty heavy in terms of bats. I was looking through the rosters, and I found exactly 2 lefty bats in the division, Fielder and Berkman, that scare me. Braun, Hardy, Hart, Weeks, Soriano, Aramis, D.Lee, C.Lee, Pence, Tejada, Bay, Pujols, and Glaus are all Right Handers.

Of course, I don't expect that Dusty will figure this out.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 8, 2008 4:03 PM EST up reply actions

That's a great point

But it's also a great point that Dusty won't figure it out.

"Just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it." - George Costanza

by beasleymachine on Mar 8, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions

Is roenicke pitching today?

I just tuned in to the audio, have they said anything about it?

by The Crushinator on Mar 8, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions

This Jeff Bennett fellow...

...is having a pretty rough day at the office. Walks, wild pitches, throwing errors...yeesh.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions

Hmmm... Snow

Still no snow here in the Caribbean. Not sure the banana trees in the back would appreciate it much.

Did bake lasagna in my solar oven today though.

Throw some snow balls for me and on my end I will try not to get sunburned today.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Mar 8, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions

Sorry

This was a response to jch's question about how deep the snow is where everyone is at. I started my comment, got disconnected, reconnected a bit later and hit post, and ended up at the bottom of the pile.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Mar 8, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, screw you :)

I'm really missing Hawaii right about now. Oh, and I lied. The 13" was a drift, the regular depth was only 11".

by jch24 on Mar 8, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions

Figures

Men always exaggerate by at least a couple of inches.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 7:43 PM EST up reply actions

exaggerate?

ive got scientific evidence to back mine up. i aint braggin' or nothin' though. just sayin'.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions

i meant to link this. now its not as funny.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/03/08/march.snowstorm.ap/index.html

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions

anyone listening to brenaman

tear leatherpants a new one

by The Crushinator on Mar 8, 2008 2:55 PM EST reply actions

has anyone not heard Brenaman

rip leather pants a new one?

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by justin0070000 on Mar 8, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

Caught the end

when they were making fun off his futuristic electronic scooter ma-bob. What else did Marty say?

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Mar 8, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions

I realize there's history there

and I realize that riding around Spring Training on a Segway is douchebaggery of the highest order.

But what is there to rip Leatherpants about recently?

He stole a top prospect from the Mets for a 4th OF and a defense-only catcher who doesn't play defense anymore who are owed $5mil each.

He made a zero-risk, high reward move by trading for a troubled but ridiculously talented player, and gave up virtually nothing.

They had a fantastic draft, and signed every one of their picks.

He got Clippard from the Yankees for a marginal RP prospect.

The only bad move the guy has made in the last 2 years was signing Meathook to an extension instead of trading him at the deadline last year.

I wasn't the world's biggest fan of Leatherpants when he was here, but with him and Kasten, the Nationals really look to be a franchise on the way up. They've upgraded the talent on their Major League roster significantly, and have taken their farm system from the undisputed worst in baseball to the middle of the pack in one year. They have a franchise cornerstone player, the best manager in baseball, and tons of talent in the organization. What's not to like?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 8, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions

The Segway?

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 8, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah...

I meant other than the segway. And the pants.

Thought I was clear on that.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 8, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions

I guess you did sorta.

For some reason I started reading your post at "..stole a top prospect.."

BLee, how do you have the rotation handicapped thus far?

Anyone else care to comment and/or speculate wildly?

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 8, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions

i see only 1

if any, of the 3 young'uns in the rotation to begin the year. and i think that one will be EV.

Harang
Arroyo
Belisle
Fogg
EV

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions

John Fay

said this:

Again, it's early so ratings can change quickly, but here's how the starters in competition for the rotation -- Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo are off the board -- have looked:

Cueto

Josh Fogg

Homer Bailey

Edinson Volquez

Jeremy Affeldt

Matt Belisle

Matt Maloney

Past performance will be a factor in who makes it, of course. No one but Maloney has pitched their way out of the race. It will be interesting from here on out. Affeldt is going to make the team but he could be shifted to the bullpen. Same goes for Volquez.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions

Rotation

I gotta believe Affeldt punched his ticket to the bullpen today. His stuff has always worked better for 1-2 innings at a time. I think he can be an effective long man and/or lefty specialist. Still, the signing was worth a shot for 1 year/$3mil.

I think the way Cueto's been pitching, Belisle's grasp on a spot has gotten more tenuous over the past few weeks.

Essentially, I think you're looking at 5 guys for 3 spots, and this is the approximate pecking order at this point:

Belisle
Cueto
Fogg
Bailey
Volquez

I think they'd be more inclined to put Volquez in the bullpen than the other young guys, while Bailey or Cueto would go to Louisville if they don't make the rotation.

I really expect that Belisle and Fogg end up with 2 of the 3 slots, with one young guy determined by the rest of Spring Training. But, I expect one of the two vets to falter or get injured, opening the door for one of the young guys by the end of April.

Either way, it's better than wondering if Paul Wilson will make it back from surgery in time or whether Jimmy Anderson can suck less than he did in Pittsburgh.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 8, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions

i think volquez is going to start in the rotation

and not the pen because of the trade. wayner is going feel the pressure to show off the kid he got in return for Hobbs, and he hasnt pitched himself out of the running for it. i hope im wrong and this decision is made based on merit/potential, but we'll see.

oh, and who is paul wilson?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2008 4:02 PM EST up reply actions

What's not to like?

Mainly his pants.

You can't have manslaughter without laughter

by crolfer on Mar 8, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions

Do we drink when they say

"play the game the right way"? Im not totally up on the rules.

by The Crushinator on Mar 8, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions

Use your ears.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 8, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

diamondbacks reference

DRINK! Actually I think I will start drinking. I have all thie liqueor and nothing to do. Maybe if I drink enough I will be brave enough to walk the half mile to the bar.

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by justin0070000 on Mar 8, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions

who the hell is armando rios?

and what has he done with our beloved norris hopper?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions

Charlie Crist and Marty are having an affair

you heard it here first.

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by justin0070000 on Mar 8, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions

Paul Janish

is having a pretty good spring training so far.

And whoa, Nelly. Andy Phillips is playing right field.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions

I hate seeing Hatty do well in this game.

It's just one step closer to him starting over Votto.

by TheClashing on Mar 8, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions

slick outing by the majik man

wouldnt it be sweet if he finally makes something of himself? i mean, other than a punchline?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions

holy hell David Price is rediculous

throws 98 consistantly from the left side, picks corners, hits people, drops down to 69 mph on his changeup. I wonder how long till hes a Yankee.

by The Crushinator on Mar 8, 2008 3:46 PM EST reply actions

he just struck

out the side in his first major league inning.

by The Crushinator on Mar 8, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions

Not on TV, is it?

I'd really like to get a look at that kid.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 8, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions

Its on mlb.tv

If he continues on this pace, which i think is safe to say he will, hell end up with 13,000 ks, 0 hits 0 walks 0 runs, and 4,000 hit batsmen by the end of his career.

by The Crushinator on Mar 8, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions

It's on TV...

...here in NY.

Which means it will probably be available via MLB.TV later, if it's blacked out now.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 8, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions

Time for a new cliche, Dusty.

"I knew it was going to be a high-scoring game with that wind," Dusty Baker said. "This was like a Wrigley Field game."

That's the second time in the past week I've heard Dusty say that.

by Geki on Mar 8, 2008 5:43 PM EST reply actions

Like Wrigley Field..

..except both teams playing today have won a World Series sometime within the past 99 years.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 8, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions

Not sure how this will come out,

But if you're interested in the ST stats for the Reds, here they are:
Player TEAM POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

1. D Anderson
CIN OF 11 22 6 11 1 1 0 5 14 2 1 0 0 .542 .636 .500

2. J Gil
CIN OF 2 4 1 2 0 0 1 3 5 0 1 0 0 .500 1.250 .500

3. A Rios
CIN OF 2 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 .500 1.000 .500

4. J Cabrera
CIN OF 10 18 5 8 3 0 0 9 11 1 2 1 2 .474 .611 .444

5. S Hatteberg
CIN 1B 8 19 5 8 1 0 0 2 9 4 0 0 0 .522 .474 .421

6. J Bruce
CIN OF 6 15 3 6 1 0 0 3 7 1 1 1 0 .438 .467 .400

7. A Dunn
CIN OF 7 13 4 5 0 0 1 4 8 3 3 0 0 .529 .615 .385

8. J Keppinger
CIN SS 9 21 3 8 0 0 0 1 8 2 1 0 1 .417 .381 .381

9. P Bako
CIN C 8 11 4 4 0 1 0 1 6 3 3 0 0 .500 .545 .364

10. B Phillips
CIN 2B 8 19 4 6 1 0 2 9 13 1 2 1 1 .318 .684 .316

11. C Dickerson
CIN OF 10 20 5 6 1 1 1 4 12 2 7 2 0 .364 .600 .300

12. P Janish
CIN SS 10 14 4 4 1 0 0 2 5 0 0 0 0 .286 .357 .286

13. C Tatum
CIN C 6 7 1 2 1 0 0 2 3 0 0 0 0 .286 .429 .286

14. A Rosales
CIN 3B 10 18 5 5 1 0 1 1 9 0 1 0 0 .278 .500 .278

15. A Phillips
CIN OF 11 19 4 5 1 1 0 4 8 1 3 0 0 .300 .421 .263

16. D Anderson
CIN OF 2 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 .250 .250 .250

17. A Green
CIN 2B 11 16 3 4 3 0 1 6 10 4 4 1 0 .381 .625 .250

18. K Griffey
CIN OF 7 12 4 3 2 0 1 5 8 5 0 0 0 .471 .667 .250

19. E Encarnacion
CIN 3B 9 21 3 5 1 0 1 7 9 3 4 0 0 .333 .429 .238

20. J Valentin
CIN C 7 13 3 3 1 0 0 2 4 2 3 0 0 .313 .308 .231

21. R Freel
CIN OF 8 18 1 4 0 0 0 2 4 1 4 0 0 .300 .222 .222

22. N Hopper
CIN OF 8 19 5 4 0 0 0 2 4 1 1 0 0 .238 .211 .211

23. J Castro
CIN SS 5 10 2 2 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 0 .333 .200 .200

24. J Votto
CIN 1B 9 17 5 3 1 0 0 1 4 3 2 1 1 .300 .235 .176

25. A Colina
CIN C 6 9 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 .111 .111 .111

26. R Hanigan
CIN C 7 12 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 .083 .083 .083

27. J Affeldt
CIN P 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000

28. M Griffin
CIN OF 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000

29. C Kroski
CIN C 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000

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