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NL Central Preview

Hey all, over at NBB we have just posted our division preview for the NL Central.  Looks like a good year for the Reds.

http://www.nobiasbaseball.com/2008/03/nbb-division-preview-nl-central.html

Here's an excerpt:

The Reds' lineup will be much of the same in 2008, with a few fresh faces. It remains to be seen who will start in center field, but it seems likely that uber-prospect Jay Bruce will start the season in the minors. The team could go with the recently acquired Corey Patterson, or reserves Ryan Freel and Norris Hopper until Bruce is ready around midseason. Hopper could be an interesting option, showing a .379 OBP in 307 AB last year.

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by Brendanukkah on Mar 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Quit..
I really miss that show. I think it was the only show really worth watching over the past 5 years..
"Sometimes, you get so caught up in on-base percentage that you're clogging up the bases." - our very own D. Baker - Oh my..

by snohio on Mar 11, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's on
everyday at 12:30pm on HDNet
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Mar 11, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but..
I've watched the series on HDNet three times now. It just leaves me craving for more..
"Sometimes, you get so caught up in on-base percentage that you're clogging up the bases." - our very own D. Baker - Oh my..

by snohio on Mar 11, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll be happy to know (maybe)
that they're making a movie.
Don't talk back to Darth Vader or he'll getcha!

by Slyde on Mar 11, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I AM happy to know..
Thanks, I had not heard that.. Very cool..

It's always the GOOD shows that get good reviews and awards that get yanked (and it is usually Fox doing the yanking..)

"Sometimes, you get so caught up in on-base percentage that you're clogging up the bases." - our very own D. Baker - Oh my..

by snohio on Mar 11, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair
it's also Fox willing to take a chance on these shows.
Two Dunns enter, but only one Dunn leaves...unless neither do because they decide to hunt, play cards, drink and fish. -Slyde

by Man Mountain on Mar 11, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true.
I just don't understand people who didn't understand this show. Maybe that's why I don't understand a lot of people. Nor do I share a sense of humor with most of them.
"Sometimes, you get so caught up in on-base percentage that you're clogging up the bases." - our very own D. Baker - Oh my..

by snohio on Mar 11, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't really surprise me
AD was just a little too far ahead of its time in terms of what it demanded from the audience.

When Seinfeld was at the height of its popularity there were a large number of people who complained they didn't "get it." The show just required a little more work than they were used to. In the 50 years of television prior to Seinfeld you could tune in at any point during a program and laugh along with someone who had been watching since the beginning. You might miss a callback or two, but every ten minutes you'd be brought up to speed on the plot ("We have to get ready! The girls will be here any minute!").

Seinfeld boldly stepped outside of that dynamic. If you picked up an episode 5 minutes in or answered the phone in the middle you might still follow the jokes, but you couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about. Around the same time The Simpsons rewarded careful and loyal viewers by building a full and consistent world. Gone were the days when all the minor characters on I Love Lucy were played by the same stock actors and each episode was its own separate world (the TV convention South Park parodied with Kenny's deaths).

Maybe everyone doesn't like Seinfeld, but everyone "gets it" now. Its imitators and reruns have raised the audience's appreciation for that type of narrative. But Arrested Development, as good art should, took it to the next level. You can follow 90% of most TV shows with your eyes closed, as a radio play. But AD constantly threw exposition at the viewer--in subtitles, still photos, backgrounds, subtle expressions--and it built on that exposition to craft ever more layered jokes. You couldn't watch the show while on your laptop or fussing in the kitchen. You had to really pay attention and watch most episodes in order (the same is true of The Wire).

There are many other theories about why a show like that didn't catch on. But Arrested Development did make an impact on the television landscape. The shows inspired by it will be better received.

by Red Menace on Mar 11, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very good.
I will admit that every time I re-watch an episode there is something I missed, or simply forgot about because there was so much in it. And building upon jokes - the more episodes you had caught the funnier the running jokes were.

I think all of the actors in that show are doing better now because of the writing from that show. It really showcased a lot of talent, both up and comers and established vets.

And go Reds..

"Sometimes, you get so caught up in on-base percentage that you're clogging up the bases." - our very own D. Baker - Oh my..

by snohio on Mar 12, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ad and The wire are clever faux art.
Dynamic and provocative. AS you say the multi-level use of media in AD is on the front end of the curve.
Interestingly I've always thought of Seinfield as just the opposite. Bland,self-serving and pessimistic. The same tired characters over and over with the same tired jokes that weren't all that provocative or numerous to begin with.
Core dude - Dustbag's core is not the core that is the core.

by Madville on Mar 12, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they were always yelling
and not that HUMOROUS to begin with, damnit
Core dude - Dustbag's core is not the core that is the core.

by Madville on Mar 13, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is starting to become a broken record
pretty good. a few comments:

you left off johnny cueto, who looks like he has a good shot to make the rotation. He's pitching better than bailey now... hell, he's pitching better than everyone now. Most of us feel like the rotation will look something like: Harang, Arroyo, belisle, cueto, fogg.

you also left off quite a few guys in the bullpen. affeldt will probably be there, and maybe volquez. But Jared Burton was really our stud last year, and he'll figure more prominently than coffey and maybe weathers (who, by the way, was a fine closer last year. He wasn't the problem, it was everyone else.)

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Mar 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Boobs.
Now tell Crolfer what a "record" is.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha
At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Mar 11, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's something you break before you taint
Two Dunns enter, but only one Dunn leaves...unless neither do because they decide to hunt, play cards, drink and fish. -Slyde

by Man Mountain on Mar 11, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's some kinda ancient Aztec war tool right?
You can't have manslaughter without laughter

by crolfer on Mar 11, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.
It's a beginner-level woodwind instrument.
At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Mar 11, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh... I call those sticks
You can't have manslaughter without laughter

by crolfer on Mar 12, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats cool
i look forward to reading through the rest of it.
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Mar 10, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More previews
This one comes from the Hardball Times.  They have everything pretty well covered, including taking a look at the question of whether Dusty truly favors veterans, and the ominous observation that last year's awfulness was not due to any kind of injury bug, and in fact the Reds were pretty healthy.  Will that hold up this year?

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/five-questions-cincinnati-reds2/

by Brendanukkah on Mar 11, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was written by JinAZ
in case it's not clear.
Don't talk back to Darth Vader or he'll getcha!

by Slyde on Mar 11, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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