NL Central Preview
Hey all, over at NBB we have just posted our division preview for the NL Central. Looks like a good year for the Reds.
http://www.nobiasbaseball.com/2008/03/nbb-division-preview-nl-central.html
Here's an excerpt:
The Reds' lineup will be much of the same in 2008, with a few fresh faces. It remains to be seen who will start in center field, but it seems likely that uber-prospect Jay Bruce will start the season in the minors. The team could go with the recently acquired Corey Patterson, or reserves Ryan Freel and Norris Hopper until Bruce is ready around midseason. Hopper could be an interesting option, showing a .379 OBP in 307 AB last year.
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by Brendanukkah on Mar 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT 0 recs
Michael, I've made a huge mistake
by BobbyO on
Mar 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Quit..
by snohio on
Mar 11, 2008 10:02 AM EDT
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It's on
by BobbyO on
Mar 11, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
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Yeah, but..
by snohio on
Mar 11, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
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You'll be happy to know (maybe)
by Slyde on
Mar 11, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
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I AM happy to know..
It's always the GOOD shows that get good reviews and awards that get yanked (and it is usually Fox doing the yanking..)
by snohio on
Mar 11, 2008 10:19 AM EDT
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Alan is seven seconds faster than me
by Brendanukkah on
Mar 11, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
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To be fair
by Man Mountain on
Mar 11, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
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Very true.
by snohio on
Mar 11, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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It doesn't really surprise me
When Seinfeld was at the height of its popularity there were a large number of people who complained they didn't "get it." The show just required a little more work than they were used to. In the 50 years of television prior to Seinfeld you could tune in at any point during a program and laugh along with someone who had been watching since the beginning. You might miss a callback or two, but every ten minutes you'd be brought up to speed on the plot ("We have to get ready! The girls will be here any minute!").
Seinfeld boldly stepped outside of that dynamic. If you picked up an episode 5 minutes in or answered the phone in the middle you might still follow the jokes, but you couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about. Around the same time The Simpsons rewarded careful and loyal viewers by building a full and consistent world. Gone were the days when all the minor characters on I Love Lucy were played by the same stock actors and each episode was its own separate world (the TV convention South Park parodied with Kenny's deaths).
Maybe everyone doesn't like Seinfeld, but everyone "gets it" now. Its imitators and reruns have raised the audience's appreciation for that type of narrative. But Arrested Development, as good art should, took it to the next level. You can follow 90% of most TV shows with your eyes closed, as a radio play. But AD constantly threw exposition at the viewer--in subtitles, still photos, backgrounds, subtle expressions--and it built on that exposition to craft ever more layered jokes. You couldn't watch the show while on your laptop or fussing in the kitchen. You had to really pay attention and watch most episodes in order (the same is true of The Wire).
There are many other theories about why a show like that didn't catch on. But Arrested Development did make an impact on the television landscape. The shows inspired by it will be better received.
by Red Menace on
Mar 11, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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Very good.
I think all of the actors in that show are doing better now because of the writing from that show. It really showcased a lot of talent, both up and comers and established vets.
And go Reds..
by snohio on
Mar 12, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Ad and The wire are clever faux art.
Interestingly I've always thought of Seinfield as just the opposite. Bland,self-serving and pessimistic. The same tired characters over and over with the same tired jokes that weren't all that provocative or numerous to begin with.
by Madville on
Mar 12, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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And they were always yelling.
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Mar 12, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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Yeah they were always yelling
by Madville on
Mar 13, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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the Wire
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/38-arrested-development/
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/85-the-wire/
by Red Menace on
Mar 11, 2008 1:27 PM EDT
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this is starting to become a broken record
you left off johnny cueto, who looks like he has a good shot to make the rotation. He's pitching better than bailey now... hell, he's pitching better than everyone now. Most of us feel like the rotation will look something like: Harang, Arroyo, belisle, cueto, fogg.
you also left off quite a few guys in the bullpen. affeldt will probably be there, and maybe volquez. But Jared Burton was really our stud last year, and he'll figure more prominently than coffey and maybe weathers (who, by the way, was a fine closer last year. He wasn't the problem, it was everyone else.)
by boobs on Mar 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT 0 recs
Thanks, Boobs.
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Mar 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT
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it's something you break before you taint
by Man Mountain on
Mar 11, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
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That's some kinda ancient Aztec war tool right?
by crolfer on
Mar 11, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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No.
by Paul Householder on
Mar 11, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
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Oh... I call those sticks
by crolfer on
Mar 12, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
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Gracias
http://www.nobiasbaseball.com/2008/03/nbb-division-preview-nl-central.html
by Matt Wilson on
Mar 10, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
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thats cool
by boobs on
Mar 10, 2008 10:55 PM EDT
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More previews
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/five-questions-cincinnati-reds2/
by Brendanukkah on Mar 11, 2008 3:43 PM EDT 0 recs
It was written by JinAZ
by Slyde on
Mar 11, 2008 3:46 PM EDT
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