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A look at the Rule 5 Draft

   With just 37 players on the 40-man roster, the Reds almost certainly will select at least one player in the Rule 5 Draft next Thursday. The order stands at  Washington, Seattle, San Diego, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, San Francisco, Atlanta and Cincinnati in the top eight. If no one ahead of them passes, the Reds  could pick as high as sixth because the Pirates and Orioles have full 40-man rosters. That could change as teams make trades at the Winter Meetings.

Are there players worth selecting? While there appears to be no Josh Hamilton, Johan Santana nor Joakim Soria available, there are some interesting possibilities. Here’s a look at some guys the Reds might consider:

HITTERS

– James Skelton-C-Detroit.

A 14th-round pick out of HS in 2004, Skelton, 23, is just 5-11, 165. He threw out 35 percent of base stealers in high-A ball last season, where he posted a 3-23-.307 .468 .406 line while stealing 14 bases in 19 attempts. At AA, Skelton went 2-11-.294 .425 .388. He’s a LHH and is willing to take a walk. For a team in need of catching, Skelton could be worth a pick.

– Jordan Brown-1B/OF-Cleveland.

A fourth-round pick from Arizona in 2005, Brown reminds some of Sean Casey at the plate. A LHH, he’s done nothing but hit, although with little power. Brown went 7-51-.281 .337 .417 in AAA last season. He’s a capable defender at a corner OF spot. He could make a nice fourth OF, pinch-hitter type who can play 1B.

Star-divide

– Corey Wimberly-2B-Colorado.

If you are head over heels for Willy Taveras, and honestly who isn’t, this sixth-rounder from the 2005 draft out of Alcorn State is your man. Versatile enough to play some CF, LF and 3B, as well as 2B, Wimberly is a speedster, stealing 181 bases in 235 attempts as a minor leaguer. Wimberly (5-8, 180) offers absolutely no power. Last season in AA he posted a line of 0-26-.291 .370 .345. A switch-hitter, he walks nearly as often as he strikes out, but doesn’t do either often. Wimberly could stick as a pinch-runner type (Herb Washington anyone?) If nothing else. Do the Reds have roster space for that?

– Brad Coon-CF-Anaheim.

Interesting prospect this 27-year-old LHH out of Trevecca Nazarene U. A 15th-rounder in 2005, Coon might be coming into his own. He went 4-30-.306 .406 .380 and was 17-27 in SB last year at AAA hitter’s haven Salt Lake City. He lacks a great arm, but is quite sound defensively. He is not averse to taking a walk. The Reds need for CF help might make Coon (6-1, 175) worth a shot – a long shot, at best.

– Jesus Guzman-3B-San Francisco.

Guzman, 24, recently signed as a six-year free agent, but the Giants didn’t place him on the 40-man roster so he’s eligible for the Rule 5. Guzman put up impressive numbers last year with Oakland’s AA club, going 14-76-.364 .419 .560. Originally signed in 2000 by Seattle, Guzman (6-1, 160) is a switch-hitter who can play 2B, 3B or the OF, although he isn’t stellar at any of those positions. He could make a decent utility player in time, but don’t the Reds have enough of those already?

Others of mild interest: Ryan Royster-RF-Tampa Bay, Chad Boyd-LF-Oakland, Daniel Carte-OF-Colorado, Stephen Head-OF/1B-Cleveland, Jeremy Slayden-OF-Philadelphia, Erik Lis-OF/1B-Minnesota, Josh Alley-OF-San Diego, Bryan Byrne-1B-Arizona, Anthony Recker-C-Oakland.

PITCHERS

– Chris Nicoll-RHRP-Kansas City.

A third-rounder out of Cal-Irvine in 2005, Nicoll, 25, became a reliever last season and took to it well. A K guy, Nicoll (6-1, 190) has averaged nearly 10 strikeouts and three walks per game in his career, despite featuring a merely average fastball/slider combination. Last year in AA, Nicoll posted a 4-1 record with a 3.09 ERA and 1.17 WHIP. He whiffed 55 and walked 8 while allowing 43 hits in 43 IP.

– Eduardo Morlan-RHRP-Tampa Bay.

Included in the Matt Garza-Delmon Young deal, Morlan (23) has an intriguing arm. A third-round pick in 2004, Morlan (6-2, 210) combines a mid-90s fastball with a mid-80s slider. Last season in AA, Morlan went 4-2 with a 3.64 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP. Opponents batted .242. He allowed 44 hits in 47 IP, struck out 45 and walked 15. He has averaged 10 Ks and fewer than three walks per game in his career. Morlan is very adept at keeping the ball in the park.

– Zach Kroenke-LHRP-NY Yankees.

I’ve read next to nothing on Kroenke from anyone previewing the Rule 5, but I like him enough to consider the 2005 fifth-rounder from Nebraska worth a look. Kroenke (6-3, 210) will be 25 on opening day. He went 6-0 with a 3.09 ERA and 1.24 WHIP in AA last season. Foes batted .187. In 43 IP, he allowed 28 hits, struck out 44 and walked 26. Historically, he has struggled before repeating a level since 2006, so maybe that’s the knock.

– Sean Stidfole-RHRP-Toronto.

A 2005 14th-rounder from Penn State, Stidfole (25) went 1-3, 3.27 ERA with a 1.23 WHIP in AAA last season. In 41 IP, he allowed 31 hits, walked 19 and struck out 32. He’s not a K guy and he walks too many, but Stidfole (6-2, 175) is a groundball pitcher who could be worth a look.

– Derek Rodriguez-RHRP-Chicago White Sox.

Rodriguez (25) is another under the radar guy. At 6-1, 190, Rodriguez was a 2005 14th-rounder out of UNLV. Last year in AA, Rodriguez posted a line of 5-1, 3.38 1.13. In 42 IP, he allowed 30 hits, struck out 44, walked 18 and held opponents to a .203 BAA. In 20 IP at AAA, Rodriguez went 0-1 with a 3.19 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, 44 Ks and 15 walks. Foes hit .179. A little too much of a flyball guy for GABP, Rodriguez went 1-0 with a 4.26 ERA in the AFL this season. He allowed 13 hits in 13 IP, struck out 14 and walked six.

Others of mild interest: Todd Blackford-RHRP-Chicago Cubs, Jacob Marceaux-RHRP-Florida, Donald Veal-RHSP-Chicago Cubs, Kevin Whelan-RHRP-NY Yankees, J.B.Cox-RHRP-NY Yankees, Chuck Lofgren-LHSP-Cleveland, Alan Horne-RHSP-NY Yankees, Neil Jamison-RHSP-San Diego.

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i like Veal from the Cubs

he’s a lefty starter who gets a K per inning and doesnt give up home runs, and coming out of the ‘pen i think his numbers would look even better. he’s wild, but i think he could stick and be decent to good.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 3, 2008 1:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Him?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Dec 3, 2008 2:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Annabelle?

Her name’s Ann, Dad.

Oh, well, I call her Annabelle because she’s… shaped like a bell… okay!

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by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 3, 2008 3:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man egg

That thing she does with the hard boiled eggs and packets of mayonaise is so cute.

by Snake the Jake on Dec 3, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's as nose as the anne on plain's face

What a picture of domestic tranquility... Hemlock on the hearth and my wife feeding the piranha.

by Man Mountain on Dec 4, 2008 1:42 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the all the info Turtle

Since we’re likely to wind up with a crappy catcher to pair with Hanigan anyway, I certainly don’t mind obtaining one through the Rule V Draft, rather than doing something like signing Paul Bako or trading Homer for Gerald Laird. But is Skelton really even much of an upgrade from Mesorasco? The jump from High A to the majors seems a little steep…

by Brendanukkah on Dec 3, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My pleasure.

Mesoraco is a better long-term prospect with more power, pure ability and projection. Skelton is a better current hitter and shows a more discerning eye at the plate. Mesoraco just completed a season at low-A ball where he went 9-42-.261 .311 .399. Not bad, but he’s still a pup and is likely to improve, possibly a great deal.

Skelton got a little time (85 AB) in AA last year and performed well. He played in Hawaii this year, too, and posted 0-11-.281 .405 .391. I think he’ll be a big leaguer but he needs more seasoning. Forcing him to spend 2009 on an MLB roster could set back his development a bit. I’ve liked him since Detroit drafted him.

The Reds might draft him and if he doesn’t pan out send him back to the Tigers. I don’t think they will select him, though, with Hanigan, Craig Tatum and Mesoraco in the system.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 2:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No offense to Tatum

but he’s still a couple of years away from being a backup catcher in the big leagues. Then again, he’s probably still better than Skelton next season. I’m not certain either would outperform Bako though.

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 2:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5'9, 165?

He seems like one of those guys that randomly comes up in a Madden Draft that can no way actually be a professional athlete, but plays like one because of his ratings.

I’m for getting him just so that him and Danny Ray can be battery mates at some point. Weighing less than Sabbathia, combined.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Dec 3, 2008 3:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We still have Wee Willie Wilkin, don't we?

I think he’d be an ideal guy to pair with Hanigan, barring a trade for a non-Laird Texas catcher.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Dec 3, 2008 3:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you dating Alvin Colina?

admit it, Louisville’s backup catcher IS a bit of a hunk:

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Dec 3, 2008 10:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alas, no. Merely a Tigers fan who suits my penchant for skinny ass white boys

who talk too much about things that bore everyone but me.

We do have a cheating exception for major league baseball players. They have to be good though. But Homer Bailey also weaseled himself on the list, so I suppose there’s a place for Alvin as well.

Too bad he’s not good enough to play backup with us. We could call him the chipmunk.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Dec 4, 2008 8:20 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

skinny ass white boys

who talk too much about things that bore everyone?

Welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay. :)

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 4, 2008 10:12 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha,

No seriously, the internet is pretty interesting (if of questionable veracity).

Aren is by comparison quite tedious. <3

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Dec 4, 2008 5:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This may be quibbling

but I wonder about “there appears to be no Josh Hamilton, Johan Santana nor Joakim Soria available.” Before they were taken did anyone consider Santana or Soria to be major talents? Maybe so. I disremember…

by Red Menace on Dec 3, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point.

There never are players available who appear to be can’t miss MLB stars or teams would protect them. I guess I’m saying there aren’t many players out there who make me think, “Gee, I can’t believe they left that guy unprotected.” Morlan might come close to that category.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 3:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think in years past

more teams left their raw prospects in the low minors unprotected, for obvious reasons. guys like Soria and Santana had tons of talent, but were considered years away from the majors. it was believed that even if a team were dumb enough to draft them, there was no way they would stick. but i think nowadays teams are more cautious with guys like that, again, for obvious reasons. its a judgment call either way, but i think more teams are thinking that their 38th spot on the 40 man is better served carrying a raw prospect than a washed-up Rob Mackowiak.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 3, 2008 3:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why does the American League champion get first pick?

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 3:12 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe it relative to the 2008 June draft order

not the 2008 records.

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 3:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah

they should have each team assigned to a contestant in the Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating contest and then base it off of the reverse ranking of that event. That way it will count too.

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 3:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you were just kinda spit firing weren't you?

deep down it didn’t make sense to you either, but you didn’t have the balls to challenge the man like i did. I am a visionary you are a follower. I am not afraid to ask the tough questions, you are John Fay.

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 3:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait a minute, I'm an idiot with a capital E.

I did goober that up, looking at last year’s order. Instead, it should be:
1. Washington.
2. Seattle.
3. San Diego.
4. Pittsburgh.
5. Baltimore.
6. San Francisco.
7. Atlanta.
8. Cincinnati.

I just got back from Vegas and the jet lag apparently is taking more of a toll than I thought.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 3:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

three nights in a row

coked up with hookers can really take it’s toll.

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 3:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

if by toll you mean being elected to congress.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 3, 2008 3:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

paging Congersman Wilson

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 3:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holey MOSES that was funny

Jeez laweez there are some funny people here

Are there any more dinner rolls? -President Ted Kennedy

by The Crushinator on Dec 3, 2008 5:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you misled me

you can never be trusted again.

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 3:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also

you might want to update the FanPost™

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 3:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Done.

Thanks, Slyde.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 4:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What, you trusted me to begin with?

I’m a minister who just got back from Vegas. Who trusts me?

OK, so I didn’t drink, do drugs, gamble or visit a brothel. My idea of fun is looking up what James Skelton did in the Hawaii Winter League. Yep, rockin’ good time, huh?

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 4:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No worries

jch and I will pick up the slack in those other areas for you.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 3, 2008 4:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm...

drink? not a good idea
drugs? you’ve got a goto guy? pm me
gamble? just to take JCH’s money
brothel? Brendan’s mom

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Dec 3, 2008 4:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would love to see a power arm

Morlan and Nicoll sound intriguing. Also, over at the BTF thread a couple of relievers St. Louis didn’t protect are worth a closer look – Mark McCormick and Luis Perdomo. Both throw hard but have control problems, and like a lot of unprotected guys they haven’t had much AA and no AAA experience.

by ken on Dec 3, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

remember when Jerry Narron was hiding Jared Burton in a lost season?

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 3:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Both those guys have great arms.

Perdomo was the guy St. Louis got fromCleveland for Anthony Reyes. McCormick throws serious heat, but control and injuries are issues. I wonder if Walt will tap into the Cardinals system?

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 4:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

completely unrelated but i'm putting it here anyway

i discovered in a drunken AIM conversation with my girlfriend last night that my grammar and spelling improves with inebriation.

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fun with Madlibs!

i discovered in a drunken ____ with my girlfriend last night that my ____ and ____ improves with inebriation.

by Red Menace on Dec 3, 2008 4:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

so, so rec'd

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Dec 3, 2008 4:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

green'd

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 3, 2008 4:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sexual encounter, premature ejaculation, nervous crying

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Dec 3, 2008 4:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do you go tucked or untucked?

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 4:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Either way

It puts the lotion in the fucking basket!

by Pops Daniels on Dec 3, 2008 4:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two more relievers off the list

Giants sign Bob Howry
Cards sign Trever Miller. Suck It, Trever!

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 4:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

both are one-year deals, btw

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 4:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Affeldt and Howry

nice signings for the Giants there.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 3, 2008 4:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they're apparently looking at CC

one $125M lefty isn’t working out, why not try another!

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Dec 3, 2008 4:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet Brian Sabean puts his gun in his sweatpants when he goes out to the club too

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 4:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm staying away

The last time I made a joke about a team I perceived to be far from contention acquiring the “final piece of the puzzle” it was the 03 Marlins signing Ivan Rodriguez.

Actually the last piece was Jack McKeon. Sigh…

by Red Menace on Dec 3, 2008 7:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

remember that one time we got rid of Jack McKeon after 2 straight winning seasons

and replaced him with Bob Boone, that was a great move…………..

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 9:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

which means we better not go 2 years with Weathers

From Ken Rosenthal:

The Reds offered free-agent reliever David Weathers arbitration, a move that could spark discussions of a two-year deal. Weathers, 39, has averaged nearly 71 appearances per season over the last 10 years. He made $2.75 million last season, and his one-year salary in arbitration could rise above $4 million …

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Dec 3, 2008 4:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At his age, I'd rather have Weathers at 1yr/$4M

than 2y/$6M

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 4:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

it’s all about payroll flexibility.

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Dec 3, 2008 4:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and about the fact that Weathers will eventually crap himself

and I don’t want the Reds still having another year left to pay him after he does. Right, Mike Stanton and Rheal Cormier?

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 4:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't forget Chris Hammonds

although I think he was only a one year deal. A Brad Kullman gem to go with Rick White.

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 5:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good gosh, I can't believe you remembered Rick White

Who’s next? Ben Weber? He was a blast…

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Dec 3, 2008 10:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who do we risk losing to rule v this year?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Dec 3, 2008 4:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The short version is that

high school players and international signees from 2004 can be drafted, along with college players from 2005, unless they’re protected on the 40-man roster. There are exceptions, but that’s generally the rule.

The only Red I can see anyone taking a chance on is RHP Terrell Young.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 4:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not Phillip Valiquette?

Isn’t he a hard throwing lefty with decent control? He seems like the kind of low-level player someone might take a shot at.

Why have I been blogging for so long? It's certainly not because of the paycheck. Because I could be making a lot more money as a doctor or a professional athlete.

by Slyde on Dec 3, 2008 4:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's funny. I had Valiquette on the post and deleted him.

He’s very talented, but a bit, shall we say, emotional. I’m thinking that might scare off teams. Washington, though, is known for making multiple selections in the Rule 5, so don’t rule out Leather Drawers taking him.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 3, 2008 5:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TT ain't even bulshittin

If Dunn goes to the Nats, I demand to have someone videotape his introduction to Elijah.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Dec 3, 2008 11:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

his kids too

What a picture of domestic tranquility... Hemlock on the hearth and my wife feeding the piranha.

by Man Mountain on Dec 4, 2008 1:44 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like Khalil Greene

is off the market.

Cards trade for Greene (MLBTradeRumors.com)

Maybe St. Louis will cut his legs off at mid shin, cut his hair, and teach him scrappiness for Eckstein v 2.0

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by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 4, 2008 8:48 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"for two relief prospects"

i would have sent SD a few relief prospects in a heartbeat. looks like a good deal for St. Louis, no matter who the arms are. a starting shortstop is worth waaaay more than minor league relievers. good thing we dont need a shortstop or i would have been pissed at the Reds for not doing this.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 4, 2008 9:52 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I recall

No one around here was incredibly excited about Khalil Greene when there were rumors that the Reds were targeting him.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 4, 2008 10:06 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not a Greene fan

But I’m with Chuck, if you can get him for a couple of minor league relief arms why not?

Wait, what is he making?

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 4, 2008 10:14 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6.5 mil, i think

its a pretty big chunk of change, especially since Gonzo is making 5.3. but his career OPS+ is 95 and he plays plus defense at SS. that is worth more than 6.5 mil, i think. of course, thats presuming he bounces back from such a dreadful year last year.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 4, 2008 10:29 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the relief prospects

is Mark Worrell, who is a pretty good arm. No word on the second player headed to SD.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 4, 2008 2:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No reason for excitement.

When the Padres send shortstops to the Cardinals, nothing much ever comes of them. For instance:

December 10, 1981: Ozzie Smith traded by the San Diego Padres with a player to be named later and Steve Mura to the St. Louis Cardinals for a player to be named later, Sixto Lezcano, and Garry Templeton. The San Diego Padres sent Al Olmsted (February 19, 1982) to the St. Louis Cardinals to complete the trade. The St. Louis Cardinals sent Luis DeLeon (February 19, 1982) to the San Diego Padres to complete the trade.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 4, 2008 10:25 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sixto is a tough name.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 4, 2008 10:28 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Especially when you're only 5'11"

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 4, 2008 10:50 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His brother Twelvo

is always whipping it out at parties.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 4, 2008 11:14 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Know what would be fun?

Is if one of the relievers the Cardinals deal is Kyle Mura, a pretty decent youngster out of Loyola Marymount. Kyle is Steve Mura’s son.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 4, 2008 11:25 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That'd be a blast...

why? These stats?

I’ll take your word on it, though, Turtle.

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by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 4, 2008 11:33 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Steve Mura shows up as part of the trade

on Ozzie’s Baseball-Reference page, but not on his own page. Go figure.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 4, 2008 11:42 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fun fact about Ozzie Smith

he only put up an OPS+ over 100 four times in his career. But he generally put up a decent on base percentage, so I guess that is acceptable.

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by justin007000 on Dec 4, 2008 12:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of shortstops, Rosenthal

is reporting the Giants have signed Edgar Renteria for two years and $18.5 million. Thank you Walt for not doing that.

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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 4, 2008 12:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rule 5 Draft

Hi everyone my 1st post here, although I have read the site a time or 3. Just wanted to add one player to your selection for the rule 5. He is in fact “talent-wise” on par with a Joakim Soria if not better. He’s got a few negatives but who would be available for this if they didn’t. Anyway w/o further adue I give you “23” yr old RHRP Pedro Strop currently of the Rangers formerly of the Rockies.

The negatives, he’s a bit of a stretch to jump from AA to a stress fracture in his elbow (mid- April ’08) to the big leagues sometime in ’09. But not a huge stretch from a stuff perspective, just from a polished one. As he was formerly a no bat SS until 2006 when Colorado moved him to the mound.

The positives, he’s flat out filthy with what BA previously called “3 swing and miss pitches”. He has a mid 90’s fastball with late life, a plus slider and a nasty splitter. This is a positive that doesn’t seem like one but he’s probably gonna take some time on the DL at least early on, which as you all know means we can keep him on the DL until we “deem him ready” so to speak. Keith Law recently stated in his chat that if he were gonna take anyone in the rule 5 it would be Strop.

Here’s a link to the rest of his story.

by MR. RED on Dec 6, 2008 2:05 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was he a good SS?

Maybe he could play SS on the days he’s not pitching…

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by BubbaFan on Dec 6, 2008 10:34 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

LOL

Rec’d

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by jch24 on Dec 6, 2008 11:01 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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