Uh oh.
by sidnancy on Dec 29, 2008 6:55 PM EST
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MLB.com's Ken Gurnick reports that in addition to Dunn, the Dodgers will soon open up talks with Bobby Abreu. They'd like to move Andruw Jones or Juan Pierre if they sign an outfielder.
Why does this scare me? Oh, yea. It's because we've already signed Pierre's less-talented brother for 2 years and apparently have another OF spot to fill with a slap-hitting speedster. Plus, we have all of that money we didn't spend on Dye left over.
Bailey and Dorn for Pierre. Don't say I didn't warn you.
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I'm not too worried
Juan Pierre is a lefty. I think Jocketty is still looking for righty bats, or why the talk about Baldelli, Swisher, and Nady?
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by BubbaFan on Dec 29, 2008 7:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we sign Pierre,
we might as well push the fences back to the river, put down astroturf and become the ‘85 Cardinals. I’ll be concerned if I see Whitey Herzog in Castellini’s box this year.
"I'm standing at the plate thinking, Where are my hands? Where's this, where's that? Before I know it, the pitch is there and I'm completely out of rhythm." -
-- Adam Dunn
by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Dec 29, 2008 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And starring as Jack Clark...
uhhh… does anybody know if Jack Clark is available?
by ctnyc on Dec 29, 2008 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he is,
Eric Davis will rob him of yet another home run.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Dec 29, 2008 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
here's why it worries me.
Dunn could become a Dodger.
In 30+ years of Reds Fandom, my favorite player was always a Red. Until Dunner got traded this year.
Now, that’s bad enough. But if he were to become a Dodger, the stress would become too much. Every molecule in my body would suddenly explode at the speed of light.
by bbjones on Dec 29, 2008 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So where do you want him to end up?
He says he wants to be a Cub.
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by BubbaFan on Dec 29, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
they have coveted him for years. And he would probably would finally hit more than 40 again if he played 81 games there plus 9 more in GABP.
Reds Win! Reds Win! Oh my God the Reds Win!! When did we become the Indians?
by Caleb on Dec 29, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and a few at minute maid
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Dec 29, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
meh
I’d rather see him be a Cub. C’mon. The Cubs? I can’t gin up any hate for the Cubs. They can nearly match Ohio State for pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. They simply aren’t scary. Cubs? Eh, sure, whatever.
Okay, so Cubs fans are annoying, they only show up to be seen and know nothing of baseball, and they eat caviar. I go to lots of Giants games, and the Cubs ain’t got nothing on Giants fans. And they are totally unlike Braves fans, who jumped on the bandwagon in the early 90s and immediately considered the Braves to be God’s gift to mankind, and themselves His custodian. They thought they knew something about baseball and didn’t. Plus, there are a cadre of Cubs fans that have been loyal for 50 or 60 or 70 years, with nothing to show for it. Maybe that’s pathetic, but I still give them props for it.
Yes, I’d much rather he were a Cub.
by bbjones on Dec 30, 2008 3:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno
I gotta give Cubs fans their props. They sure as hell travel en masse, obnoxious or not. We really cant say that about the Reds fans…who barely make it to GABP.
From the catbird seat I’ve always thought that the Cardinals had a strong fan base, ditto for the Cubs and Mets. i never really thought about the Giants fans being fanatical because I was raised with images of a desolate Candlestick. From all accounts ive heard the new ballpark in SF is amazing.
by obc2 on Dec 30, 2008 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, the 'stick was cold...
Giants fans are not fanatical, really. They love to hang out at the new stadium, but no one seems to get too upset that the team is awful. They also seem to be the nearly only ones who have the proper perspective on Bonds — he probably did ‘roids, but so did everyone else, and he was better than all of them even without the roids. But, they do like to have their chardonnay and sushi at the game. And it’s more important to have good wi-fi coverage at every seat than to be able to see who is warming up in the bullpen.
The new ballpark is awesome. There are great views across the Bay, the field shape is interesting, you can hit balls into the water. It is really fantastic — if you get the chance you should definitely go.
On the other hand, one of the coldest times I remember was one August at Candelstick. I had a winter coat on, and I was freezing.
by bbjones on Dec 30, 2008 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
respectfully disagree with your thoughts on the perspective of Giants' fans
not everyone did ‘roids, and Bonds was not the best when he wasn’t on them.
Reds fan for 40 years!
by gejoe on Dec 31, 2008 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who was better?
Take the years from 1990 to 1997. I think it’s pretty well agreed that Bonds was clean until Sammy and McGwire had their slugfest, and he got no love.
Over that period, Frank Thomas was awfully good. Sheffield was good too, but not as consistent. Several others popped up for a year or two (Larry Walker). But I’m not at all confident I could make a case that they outproduced Bonds over those 7 years.
(Giants fans: what I really meant by that comment was that Giants fans seem to be much less likely than most baseball fans and media people to make Bonds the poster boy and fall-guy for PED abuse. )
by bbjones on Dec 31, 2008 2:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on Bonds
He did it because he knew he was the best player in the world and his ego couldn’t handle not getting the same amount of attention as McGwire & Sosa.
Junior was in the same class as Bonds and stayed clean. I’d rather have that legacy if I were a player.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Dec 31, 2008 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Junior was a step behind Bonds, IMO
not far, but Bonds over the course of the decade was clearly the best player in the league.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Dec 31, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
The CW was that Jr was the best or at least as good as Bonds, but that wasn’t really the case. Jr made the all century team while Bonds didn’t. Eventually you start to understand why he wanted to roid up and show everyone how great he was.
by Red Menace on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Poz has an article in the THT Annual
that touches on this. If the Pirates hadn’t traded for Andy Van Slyke and kept Bonds in CF, Bonds may have been perceived at least as Junya’s equal. But as a LF there was too much ground to make up.
by ken on Dec 31, 2008 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too much ground to make up
By not having as much ground to cover. Isn’t it ironic?
by Brendanukkah on Dec 31, 2008 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Rybarczyk, who runs hittrackeronline
projects Dunn to hit the most HRs in 2009 if he plays with the Dodgers in an article he wrote for The Hardball Times’ annual (thanks, Santa!). This surprised me because I always thought of Dodger Stadium as a pitcher’s park. Apparently being a Dodger would boost Dunn’s HR totals because (1) of the extra games played in Coors and Arizona, and more importantly, (2) the shallow CF fence in Dodger Stadium. Sluggers (40+ HRs) hit a much higher proportion of their HRs to center relative to other players because they know that even with imperfect contact they can muscle it over the CF wall. Shorter porches in the corners (which Dodger Stadium doesn’t have) are less important to them.
All that said, it’s hard to believe that he won’t end up in the AL.
by ken on Dec 30, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn
Interesting conversation going on over at Joe Posnanski’s blog. Check the J.P. Ricciardi post and read the comments. And ignore anything that doesn’t have anything to do with Adam Dunn.
Oh, hell. Here’s the link.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/12/27/holy-cow-i-am-jp-ricciardi/
by Brian B on Dec 30, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoah
Is he really a smoker?
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by BubbaFan on Dec 30, 2008 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I bum cigarettes when drinking.
Just ask OBC or JCH, they usually lose a couple at RR gatherings to me.. I’m most def. not a “smoker”, it’s just a social drinking thing. I would say if he was BUMMING cigs, then he isn’t a smoker. I’d be willing to BET than most ballplayers when playing poker would probably be smoking a cigar or something.
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by snohio on Dec 31, 2008 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw Mark Wohlers at Argosy a few years back
and the dude was a smokestack. Who knew nicotine makes you unable to hit the broadside of a barn.
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by Pops Daniels on Dec 31, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was an honory bat boy once
the game i went to was a reds/cards game. I walked by Gerry Gieaty and he spit tobaco and shouted bullshit. Charming gentleman.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Jan 1, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How do you know he was talking about Gary Gaetti?
by Brian B on Jan 4, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
www.translatejustin007000.com
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 4, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
C- for bullshit spelling
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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 1, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Daughter #2 (the 25 year old scientist) was an honorary bat girl when she was about 11.
She was really shy and the situation was was looking kinda grim for her. None of the players were paying any attention to her and she was just standing at the end of the dugout all nervous and scared until Billy Hatcher came over and knelt down and talked to her, made her smile and got her laughing. He signed a ball for her and then forced acouple of other players (larkin was one and Maybe Willie Greene) to come over and say hi. She still loves Billy.I met billy’s wife Karen and their daughter Chelsa (?) and got to tell them that story. His daughter told me what a wonderful dad he was and Karen said she’d heard other similar stories about Billy. His daughter is going off to play major division 1 soccer somewher (its late I forget where) she was absolutely delightful.
I am not Reynard's ass.
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by Madville on Jan 2, 2009 12:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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