Reds reportedly interested in Japanese pitcher
Kenshin Kawakami, according to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. Baltimore, Atlanta, Boston and St. Louis also are supposedly in the hunt.
Kawakami, 33, is a RHSP who starred for Chunichi. He has a .609 winning percentage and just eight MLB pitchers ever have topped that. An encouraging sign, as we all know that wins are the ultimate determining factor in the quality of a pitcher.
Kawakami is rumored to be seeking a three-year, $35 million deal. In 117.3 IP last season, he had a 2.30 ERA and struck out 4.5 batters for each he walked. He is said to be homer prone. Kawakami reportedly has a fastball that tops out at 87 and features a cutter and a slow curve. He was part of a six-man rotation last season, so durability might be a concern, especially when coupled with the fact he has been a reliever most of his career.
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here's a profile of Kawakami
from NPB tracker. i cant see why the Reds would be interested in this guy, unless they are looking to deal Arroyo. and furthermore, i think the chances that a Japanese pitcher coming to Cincy are very slim.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 28, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jim Allen's profiles
on the primary Japanese FAs appeared on espn.com a few weeks ago. On Kawakami:
Unlike Kuroda, who put together mouth-watering ERAs despite pitching in Japan’s best hitters’ park, Kawakami’s 3.22 career ERA was fashioned in an extreme pitchers’ park with one of the country’s better defensive units playing behind him.
Kawakami likely has the best cutter in Japan. Although he has exceptional control with his 92 mph fastball, it lacks movement and gets hit hard. He also has a two-seamer that runs in on right-handers, a slider and a slow curve. Kawakami experimented with a forkball this year, and his groundouts increased sharply.
Because of his tenacity and his command, Kawakami should adjust to the challenges of the majors.
Might not be a good fit for us. But I do disagree that a Japanese FA wouldn’t want to come here, though it’s hard to say either way because we haven’t tried. But other smaller market, midwest teams have brought Japanese players over. I think it all depends on the money.
by ken on Dec 28, 2008 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's just that so many other teams are interested in this guy
I can’t see him picking Cincinnati over Boston, Baltimore, and Atlanta.
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by BubbaFan on Dec 28, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's really no city outside of the west coast and New York
that has a significant Japanese American community, which are basically composed of business expats (and Cincinnati has its share of multinational corporations that host them). I don’t know anything about Kawakami, but if he’s from a smaller town he actually might feel more comfortable in a place like Cincinnati over the big markets.
by ken on Dec 28, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a Japanese community
So much as a large city. A lot of the Japanese I know love big cities. And even the most dense US cities are pretty thinly populated by global standards.
One reason my sister left Ohio was that her Japanese partner didn’t consider Cleveland a real city. Boston, San Francisco, New York, Washington, fine, Cleveland, no.
But actually, that’s not really what I meant with my original comment. I think Cincinnati ends up paying a premium for a lot of their players, and not because they’re Japanese. In this case, it’s probably not worth it, because they have guys in-house who are probably just as good.
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by BubbaFan on Dec 28, 2008 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not all Japanese go for big cities
FWIW, So Taguchi chose St. Louis because it wasn’t New York or LA, maybe because he’s not from one of the big cities in Japan. Kawakami could be of the same mindset – he’s not even from the main island.
by ken on Dec 29, 2008 6:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
Now that the Red Sox and Orioles have signed other starters, the chances may be better for the Reds.
I don’t think location really matters that much to baseball players. Maybe to their wives, if they’re married. (It was reportedly Teixeira’s wife who didn’t want to live in Boston.) For half the year, they can live wherever they want. During the regular season, they’re only in their home city half the time anyway.
I think the problem with Cincinnati is that they’re seen as far away from winning, and not willing to spend money. That’s why they end up overpaying (in money or length of contract).
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by BubbaFan on Dec 29, 2008 7:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Japanese players are too expensive and overated
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 28, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah
there was this dude in japan named ichiro suzuki who was a big star over there, and then he came to the real major leagues and sucked. i dont even know what happened to that guy
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Dec 28, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you wouldnt know it, but he was supposed to be the next Matty Alou
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Dec 28, 2008 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No the next Jesus Alou.
I once saw Felipe, Matte, and Jesus all play in the same outfield for the San Fransisco Giants.
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Sir Winston Churchill
by Madville on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard he was bigger than Jesus
It started a whole uproar.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
by TheC on Dec 29, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh man
dont forget guys like Hideki Matsui, Hideo Nomo, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Hideki Okajima, Takashi Saito, Kaz Matsui, Aki Iwamura, and Kazuhiro Sasaki. dont even get me started making blanket generalizations about those guys. yeesh.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 28, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dice K cost a hundred million dollars - Is that not overated?
You are talking about the best players in the history of Japanese baseball. Some of those guys are great, but do you remember the hype Kaz Matsui came with to the Mets….then he totally sucked.
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 28, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally sucked
getting to the World Series last year. Of course, so did Willy Taveras. And now I’m not sure what my point was.
by Brendanukkah on Dec 28, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How come you left out Fukudome?
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 28, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he doesn't use that kind of language!
Reds fan for 40 years!
by gejoe on Dec 29, 2008 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
your more fun not as a mod
when you can be a real dick. I love dick-boobs
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by justin007000 on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this guy shouldn't be too expensive
He’s a free agent, so there won’t be a posting fee.
He may be expensive for the Reds, though. They’d probably have to pay a premium, as they did with Stanton, Cordero, etc. And I don’t think it’s worth it for them. They’ve got decent starting pitching already.
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by BubbaFan on Dec 28, 2008 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 year 35 million is too expensive
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 28, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what he wants
Or what his agent is asking for. It’s not necessarily what he’s going to get.
And the Sox are supposedly signing Brad Penny, so perhaps that’s one less team interesteded in Kawakami.
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by BubbaFan on Dec 28, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when the Reds almost traded for Brad Penny?
I think it’s when they ended up with Dempster. Talk about shopping for silver and buying shit.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Dec 28, 2008 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you persuaded me
Seriously,feel free to actually start contributing something of value to any thread at some point.
by ken on Dec 28, 2008 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
splat
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Dec 28, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
plus we still owe them for pearl harbor
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Dec 28, 2008 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would put a real comment here but i don't wanna be starting fights, so i'll just say
that’s racist
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Dec 28, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Dec 29, 2008 4:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I think you do Trebek, I think you do indeed...
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Dec 29, 2008 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
after all of this condemnation
it should be noted that he said “over-ated”
in which case, Hideki would have to agree.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Dec 29, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hear if you lick him, it packs an awesome buzz.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 29, 2008 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Reds realize that lefties can pitch too, right?
poor Matt Maloney never had a chance.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Dec 28, 2008 7:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Japanese born MLB Players
Here, y’all, is a great site full of numbers and stats for Japanese born MLB players. I would readily admit that the first wave of Japanese ballplayers were a tad underwhelming. But the current group is pretty decent, imho.
by obc2 on Dec 28, 2008 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is just another Red's pipe

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Sir Winston Churchill
by Madville on Dec 29, 2008 7:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've been smoking from something similar.
I call it a shuuto pipe. It’s diggity dank, but most righties prefer blunts.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 29, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"yume"
“Dream” in Japanese.
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by BubbaFan on Dec 29, 2008 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
weeeeeiiiird dude
“1979” just came on the radio when i read your comment.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 29, 2008 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is this some kinda kiddie porn ?
Christ in a confessional !!!!!

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