Check out this idiotic Votto trade rumor!

by snailbiscuit on Dec 20, 2008 11:53 PM EST Comment 33 comments

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=gammons_peter

How idiotic can you get? Surely Jocketty wouldn't do something so stupid? Would he? Surely this is just something that Gammons made up or misinterpreted. I just can't believe any GM would even consider doing this in the Reds postion. If this were to turn out to be true and Jocketty went through with it could you still support this team in 09? I'm not sure that I could.

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For those that don't want to click through to the Worldwide Leader

it’s Jermaine Dye to Cincinnati, Joey Votto to Anaheim and Chone Figgins to Chicago.

by Red Menace on Dec 21, 2008 12:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

20 bucks says that Gammons heard this "rumor" from Steve Phillips

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by BK on Dec 21, 2008 12:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is the kind of rumor that drives me nuts

Only a complete moron would trade Votto…and our moron is the manager – not the GENERAL MANAGER.

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by Madville on Dec 21, 2008 12:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

If this were to happen

I would quit watching, period. That is if I survived the heart attack, and the suicide attempt….

by thedecline19 on Dec 21, 2008 1:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I would totally make a suicide attempt on Jocketty and Dusty

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 21, 2008 7:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't get it.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Dec 21, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

this isnt a rumor

its just pure speculation on the part of the author. he’s giving an example of things we dont know about, things that could be simmering under the surfaces, beyond the horizon out of the view of the media. there is nothing to this rumor so dont get all lathered up about it….yet.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 21, 2008 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I hope he doesn't know what he's talking about

I don’t want to see Melky Cabrera in CF for the Yanks another year. The Melk Dud is a future star…of the Mexican League.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 21, 2008 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It is speculation, but it's also Gammons

Which gives it credibility for a lot of readers and the press. I agree that he’s talking out of his ass but he’s practically winking at his audience with his use of italics.

by ken on Dec 21, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If this happened

I would go crazy and throw my computer out the window. That is one of the dumbest trade “rumors” I’ve seen in my life.

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by Colts Homer on Dec 21, 2008 3:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Other news of note

The Angels have withdrawn their offer to Mark Teixeira. That leaves the primary suitors as the Nationals, who would be a 70 win team with Tex, or the Red Sox who would then have a very expensive bench player. Either outcome will make Slyde’s head asplode.

The other long shots are the Yankees, who already signed Nick Swisher, and the Orioles, Tex’s hometown team. Maybe the Reds can put in a bid after Gammons’s proposed trade goes down.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 21, 2008 7:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

of all the big ticket free agents out there this year

Tex is the one i would love for the Reds to spend 180 mil on. sure, we have Votto and Yonder and EdE and Frazier and so on and so on, but none project to be as good as Tex. the guy is a switch hitting Gold Glover who will OPS .900 for the next 8 years. the odds of him making even that big a contract worth it are pretty high.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 21, 2008 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Eh

You’d be paying a lot for an extra win or two. Per Chone – Votto: 285/365/494; Tesh: 291/391/531. After two years that gap may disappear altogether.

Plus, he could turn into Todd Helton.

by ken on Dec 22, 2008 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

but he wouldnt be replacing Votto

Votto would move to LF. Tex would replace the whole in LF.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 22, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It would be great for 2009

But we’d have quite a logjam at 1B/LF to sort out afterwards and this will eat into all those extensions I want to see for Bruce, Votto/Yonder, and Volquez/Cueto. I’d rather not commit so much to that end of our defensive spectrum for 8 years. If we were an AL team with a bigger budget, I could probably go for it even though there’s still a significant chance that the last four years of the deal would be a drag.

by ken on Dec 22, 2008 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

good point re: extensions

i guess im not so much advocating signing Tex as much as i think he will likely be worth the money some team pays him. i dont think the Reds should sign him, but given the choice between him, CC, Burnett, Manny, et al i would take Tex, even though his contract will be the biggest.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 22, 2008 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs