November 4th Election Day Open Thread
I figure there's some interest in this type of thing with comments slowing and the Hot Stove league not yet fired up, but maybe I figure wrong. When justin had the RR Presidential Poll a couple weeks ago, there was a mention that an election day thread might be interesting. The political discourse around here has been remarkably civil, so I don't think there's any harm in this. As I rarely contribute much of worth to Red Reporter, here y'all go.
This whole election cycle has been filled with enough twists and turns too strange for fiction. Whatever happens tonight, the country's undeniably going in a new direction. So, after all the spin, the inane trivialities that somehow always creep into Presidential elections, and hundreds of millions of dollars, we finally get to vote.
I want to hear your opinions on this day. Are you excited? Could you care less? Voting for a candidate who didn't support the bailout? (For you, BubbaFan) Are voting lines gigantic in your state? Are you watching the floating pie charts, magic map, and swooshing sound effects on CNN? Are you going low-tech and watching actual objective analysis on PBS/C-Span?
So what horse are you betting on? It looks like it may be an early night, but I'm not so confident (Full Disclosure: As most of you know, I'm an Obama staffer in NC and have been on the campaign since January, slowly descending into a fevered insanity that I had to take a break from tonight to write out this post).
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Nate Silver has Obama having a 98.1 chance to win the election right now.
If McCain wins, is Silver’s career with numbers effectively over? Seems like he’s putting a lot of eggs in this basket.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on
Nov 4, 2008 12:26 AM EST
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Palin seems ready for foreign affairs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 12:30 AM EST
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maybe this link won't be broken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA9SsuE_yIw&feature=related
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 12:31 AM EST
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i was in line for an hour an 10 minutes
i showed up at the polls at 6:30 this morning (not because i was excited or anxious, but because my wife had to be to work early and we didnt have another choice). it seems like turnout is going to be at unprecedented levels today, good news for all you democracy-lovers out there.
"If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you? You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 8:14 AM EST
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You're in Columbus, right?
Or am I confused?
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Nov 4, 2008 8:29 AM EST
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yep
Hilliard
"If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you? You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 10:06 AM EST
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Okay, I'm in Dublin
I’m supposed to vote at the Queen Noor Islamic Center. I didn’t know how busy that would be.
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Nov 4, 2008 10:15 AM EST
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More like the "Obama Hussein is Islamic Center"!
Amiright!
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 4, 2008 10:20 AM EST
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Boom.
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Nov 4, 2008 10:24 AM EST
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Goes the dynamite?
Or “shake shake the room”?
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 10:30 AM EST
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The latter, naturally.
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Nov 4, 2008 10:35 AM EST
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i think it was busy this morning
because of the first wave crowd. the line started to really die down after 7 or so. im tired either way.
"If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you? You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 10:25 AM EST
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Yeah, i'm banking on not many folks going during the work afternoon
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Nov 4, 2008 10:29 AM EST
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Yeah!
Great turnout in my old hometown!
Politickin' in God's Country
by chesirecat on
Nov 4, 2008 8:30 AM EST
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I just voted
I was in line for 5 minutes. I complained because boobs was not an option on any of the polls. So, I wrote him in.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 4, 2008 8:58 AM EST
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Wrote him in?
Or drew him in?
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 9:18 AM EST
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rec'd
that is a priceless mental image
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by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 10:09 AM EST
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It took about half an hour
for me to help swing the Old Dominion back towards blue.
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 4, 2008 9:03 AM EST
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You voted today?
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 9:28 AM EST
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That probably only went out in real Virginia
Oh, and Nancy Pfotenhauer? This is real. This is happening.
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 4, 2008 9:36 AM EST
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45 minute wait for me
I voted at a Quaker meeting house. The pacifist vibes can’t be good for McCain.
by ken on
Nov 4, 2008 12:16 PM EST
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In and out in Dublin in 5 minutes
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Nov 4, 2008 2:07 PM EST
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jerks
i knew i should have waited. but no, my stupid wife had to do it early. curse that woman…
"If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you? You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 2:10 PM EST
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Rember Vote:
Supreme Ruler – Slyde
Vice Supreme Ruler – BK
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on
Nov 4, 2008 8:20 AM EST
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I wasn't comfortable voting for a black president
So I just voted for America’s 43.5th white one.
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 4, 2008 9:02 AM EST
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gObama
Vote Pops in '08. I promise nothing and I'll do it!
by Pops Daniels on
Nov 4, 2008 9:18 AM EST
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This was my QoTD via email
“No one should ever sit in this office over 70 years old,
and that I know.”
—- President Dwight D. Eisenhower
I’m surprised to not have heard this before now.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 9:19 AM EST
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My Ballot looked like this
Prezzzident- Chuck Baldwin
Congress- David Krikorian
Issue 1-Yes
Issue 2-Yes
Issue 3-Yes
Issue 5-Yes
Issue 6-No
I didn’t have to wait in line at all :]. Good job voting today guys!
Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!
by Zach K on
Nov 4, 2008 9:26 AM EST
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Chuck Baldwin
he wants to end porn. Like porn is cool. You failed at voting today.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 10:37 AM EST
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If this is true
You failed on a grand scale, Zach.
You can have my porn when you pry it from hairy, slightly sticky fingers.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:09 AM EST
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rec'd
for reminding me of Slyde’s “boobs” write-in candidate.
I’ll be back in 15 minutes.
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 12:58 PM EST
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i voted three weeks ago
and now i’m sitting with knots in my stomach. i wish i could just sleep until about 7pm.
by Daedalus on
Nov 4, 2008 11:15 AM EST
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i am fairly comfortable with things right now
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:23 AM EST
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Percosets and a bottle of red wine
Should do the trick.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:30 AM EST
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it's not yet noon
i have to save some room for celebratory spirits tonight!
by Daedalus on
Nov 4, 2008 11:53 AM EST
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Good call
I have to work the elections, so I won’t be home until late and have to be at a conference tomorrow morning at 8:00. Sucks to be me, but I’ll find some time to raise a glass somehow I’m sure.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:58 AM EST
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I like this thread
only because it is running an ad for blacksingles.com
by jacob brumfield on
Nov 4, 2008 11:39 AM EST
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It's because "barack obama" is one of the tags, i betcha!
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by chesirecat on
Nov 4, 2008 12:15 PM EST
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For you Jacob:
Its how I met my yoga mistress er instructor

We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on
Nov 4, 2008 2:02 PM EST
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She can teach me yoga any day
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 2:19 PM EST
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I like yoga
if it has fruit in the bottom.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 4, 2008 8:31 PM EST
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you're naughty
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 4, 2008 8:33 PM EST
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i like mine
with the fruit mixed in. i feel it offers a more consistent mouth feel and taste index.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 8:38 PM EST
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plain yoga
not vanilla. Not chocolate. No fruit. I’m like Colbert mixed with Ahmedinijad. I don’t see color and I don’t see gays.
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 8:39 PM EST
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Yogurt! Yogurt! I hate Yogurt! Even with Strawberries!
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 4, 2008 8:40 PM EST
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I voted in the ghetto this mornig - people were fired up!
We live in a mostly African American part of Cincinnati, working class folks. Usually I walk in the door of the polling place, vote and am out in about 10 minutes. Mrs. M, my son and I went at about 8:00 this morning and the line was about 50 people. There were so many Black Americans voting, it was exciting and there was such a feeling of pride in the air. The poll workers inside said that the line had slimmed some since 6:00am. I must say that I was really moved. Especially by the some of the elderly voters who were commenting that they hadn’t voted in years and years because they felt so disenfranchised.
Even if by some strange Republican trick Obama loses, his candidacy has made an extraordinary difference. BTW, I have been a moderate Republican party member for 41 years (although this year I have severed any and all ties with the GOP)and I’ve voted in 10 presidential elections. I’ve never seen or felt anything like the energy and optimism that permeated the polls today.
I proudly cast my ballot for Slyde as Supreme Ruler, BK as Vice Supremem Ruler and Obama for president.
Here’s a shot at the Holy Way Pentecostal Church of the Ever Widening Void polling place in Madisonville:


We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on
Nov 4, 2008 12:55 PM EST
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I voted a week and a half ago
and I dragged my crazy old mom out to vote. She thought it would be this huge ordeal. Took her about 10 a.m. Went right to the table, then waited may 3-4 minutes for a voting machine open up.
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on
Nov 4, 2008 2:05 PM EST
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i got to the polls at 6am
they opened at 6:30 for the first time in 17 years and I was on my way to work by 6:45 am. have they called Ky and Indy yet?
Remember if a Democrat wins it's a mandate, if a Republican wins it's a law suit
by Caleb on
Nov 4, 2008 6:33 PM EST
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prediction
Obama by a huge number.
Remember if a Democrat wins it's a mandate, if a Republican wins it's a law suit
by Caleb on
Nov 4, 2008 6:43 PM EST
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My day in rural NC
has been a bit disappointing, and a bit anti-climactic. Looks like McCain is taking NC from the #s…
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by chesirecat on
Nov 4, 2008 6:48 PM EST
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fivethirtyeight has it as a toss up
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 7:05 PM EST
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Thanks, chesirecat
As a matter of fact, I did vote against everyone who voted for the bailout. ![]()
I heard rumors of long lines, but didn’t see any evidence. I was a bit alarmed when I first went to my polling place and saw people waiting outside, but then I realized there were actually fewer people than usual for a presidential election. They just rearranged the place and were making people wait outside the voting room, rather than inside like they usually do. They did ask me if I needed help figuring out how to use the voting machine, but that might have been because they had new machines, rather than because there were a lot of newbies.
Yes, the 100+ year old lever machines have been replaced. With new lever machines. The old ones seemed sturdier to me, but the new ones have cute little red arrows that pop up and point to the name you voted for.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on
Nov 4, 2008 7:46 PM EST
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I voted early, too.
Despite my effort, it doesn’t look like this one belongs to the reds.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 4, 2008 8:32 PM EST
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am I the only one
that thinks that Electoral College counting, “precincts reporting” and calling states based on 12% is like, absolutely arcane? Its not like I don’t trust the people doing it, but it makes about as much sense to me as space flight.
BTW, I voted a couple of weeks ago. It’s nice to see that there was no “Cy’s candidate pictured high-fiving Osama over a pile of dead US servicemen” picture floating around since then. That would’ve been awkwarrrrd.
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 8:38 PM EST
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cnn called maine for obama
when obama had 2 votes and mccain had one.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 10:19 PM EST
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Early returns in Montgomery County
are kinda crazy. There are black areas of Jefferson Township and Dayton where Obama is beating McCain by crazy totals…..335 votes to 3, 256 votes to 1, 159 votes to ZERO. He’s getting about 98 percent of the black vote here.
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on
Nov 4, 2008 8:40 PM EST
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I'll post this again
Head of State sort of explained the ’08 election.
This doesn’t make me racist, does it?
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 8:43 PM EST
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I'm proud of Ohio as a whole, but especially Montgomery County
Once again, the blue island in a sea of red.
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 4, 2008 11:50 PM EST
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Just flipping through the networks
I love the fact that the local NBC affiliate has put the local results at the bottom of the screen and then squished the main NBC feed enough that it clips everything on the side and top of the screen, which just so happens to be where NBC has decided to put all of it’s interesting data. Local affiliates is so dumb.
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by Slyde on
Nov 4, 2008 8:46 PM EST
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Shut up nerd
The local media rocks out loud.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 8:52 PM EST
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Just saw that
Ballgame.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 4, 2008 9:28 PM EST
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well done guys.
I knew we could depend on you.
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on
Nov 4, 2008 9:28 PM EST
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My MO is the fortune teller
We ALWAYS pick right… except for that one time in the 50’s…
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on
Nov 4, 2008 9:30 PM EST
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Doesn't look to be the case this year
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 5, 2008 12:25 AM EST
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well... Boone County always picks right...
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on
Nov 5, 2008 8:28 PM EST
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so is it pretty much over?
I was told by a friend it was, but nobody has it official. Any word?
And if I was Mikhail Saakashvili, I would start packing my bags and looking for flights to NYC. Warrants mentioning.
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 9:39 PM EST
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We're feeling damn good
and I’m greedy, I want NC to be the sealer, though I think we’re going to be the closest state in the Union
Politickin' in God's Country
by chesirecat on
Nov 4, 2008 9:41 PM EST
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how drunk are you going to be in 3 hours?
and will it be on alcohol? Or power?
Or, for the sake of polling, boobs?
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 9:43 PM EST
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A mixture of all 3, i think
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Nov 4, 2008 9:57 PM EST
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Most have Obama around 200 electoral votes
When you factor in CA giving him 55 more, it’s pretty well over.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
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Nov 4, 2008 9:46 PM EST
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Oh, and don't forget FLA
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
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Nov 4, 2008 9:47 PM EST
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yeah big Mac had to win everything else
if Obama won one of Penn, Ohio, VA, NC, CO, and Fla. Obama has now won 2 of those, so its a done deal. ive got a bottle of sparkling cider chilling as we speak.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 9:51 PM EST
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O-H!
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by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 9:48 PM EST
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I-FUCKING-O!
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by chesirecat on
Nov 4, 2008 9:57 PM EST
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drink deeply my friend
you have earned it
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by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 9:58 PM EST
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up there a ways
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by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 4, 2008 10:01 PM EST
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I just wrote on your wall
which feels a little weird, still. But yeah, make sure your high-fiving hand is sore tomorrow.
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 10:07 PM EST
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I got drilled in my region (of course)
But outperformed expectations by about 4,500 votes. If that’s the margin of victory, I’m going friggin’ insane
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Nov 4, 2008 10:20 PM EST
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one of my buddies' status messages is
“I’m moving to Canada, not gonna live under Obamunism.”
I really hope nobody tells him about socialized health care until after he signs the citizenship papers. I mean, there’s a lot of places to live if you want conservative American values (Caymans? Ireland? Turkey?) so why pick the cold, liberal, one up north?
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 10:23 PM EST
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I'm fucking calling it now - Obama wins.
9:54pm Barack wins! Barack wins!
SWISH
AND PRESIDENTIALLY TOO

We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on
Nov 4, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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it always bothered me that all the pictures of the Mighty O balling were in pants
what? we’re not allowed to see presidential candidates’ legs? Says who?
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 10:03 PM EST
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PRESIDENT ELECT
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT OFFICALLY BUT I’M CALLING IT AND I’M SO FUCKING EXCITED.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 10:20 PM EST
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538.com's 10:06pm update

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 4, 2008 10:32 PM EST
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CO, FL, VA all "likely"?
That seems a bit dubious to me…
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by Cy Schourek on
Nov 4, 2008 10:39 PM EST
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doesn't matter
called + safe = 284
If he’s right, it’s over.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 4, 2008 10:42 PM EST
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There's no way Obama loses any of those safe states, is there?
538 had Obama at a 100% chance of winning all of them. Nate Silver is awesome.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on
Nov 4, 2008 10:46 PM EST
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Bank 'em all
Politickin' in God's Country
by chesirecat on
Nov 4, 2008 10:47 PM EST
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I'm waiting to go to bed until Indiana is called
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on
Nov 4, 2008 10:49 PM EST
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It's over
Barack Hussein Obama will be the next president.
Suck it, McCain
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on
Nov 4, 2008 11:18 PM EST
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And congrats
to Obama!!!! Can’t be all negative here.
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on
Nov 4, 2008 11:19 PM EST
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You've gotta give it to McCain
Classy concession speech.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on
Nov 4, 2008 11:27 PM EST
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that mccain may have won
that was the old john mccain. Not this crazy thing made by schmidt. I guess McCain snapped and took out all his misplaced agression towards bush on obama.
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by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:35 PM EST
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I thought the exact same thing
As I was listening to his speech I thought, “I would have voted for that guy”.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 5, 2008 12:08 AM EST
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Very classy
John McCain is a good human being. I think he let the win at all cost mentality get the better of him some times.
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by chesirecat on
Nov 4, 2008 11:36 PM EST
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I was pretty impressed by it
Definitely a classy way to end his run.
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 4, 2008 11:53 PM EST
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Takes me back:
1967 – Marching in Delaware and Columbus Oh for civil rights
1968- State Street race riots in Madison Wisconsin, I was there too…scary
1969- Pepper gassed in San Fransisco during the Bastille Day riots – Against racism and the the fucking Viet Nam war. What we did then was plant some seeds. My kids and the people of your generation have seen to it that those seeds have grown and bloomed.
40 years later and how things have changed and how they haven’t. I pray that Obama will continue to be as thoughtful, organized, strong, flexible and human during his presidency as he’s been during the campaign.
As John McCain said in his concession speech now is the time to come together and to find ways to create prosperity. security, and opportunity for us all in America.
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And hopefully to get the Reds to the 2009 play-offs.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on
Nov 4, 2008 11:35 PM EST
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Barack Obama is like a black Ronald Reagan
except he may be a good president.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:37 PM EST
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Were you alive during the Reagan years?
by Brian B on
Nov 5, 2008 12:11 AM EST
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as a historian i see a man who wasn’t that bright, iran cantra, armed iraq, star wars, trickle down economics, somebody who thought HIV was a punishment for homosexuality, fired all the air traffic controllers, etc
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by justin007000 on
Nov 5, 2008 12:17 AM EST
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Out of Jimmy Carter came Ronald Reagan.
I can only hope that happens again in four years.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 12:30 AM EST
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I also can hope President Obama
is the best leader the world has ever seen. I honestly do hope for that. I’m not a believer in investing in failure just so my guy can get in the White House. I’ll be giddy if Obama is a wonderful president. If he is what I think he will be, however, well, I’ll keep looking for the next Reagan.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 12:32 AM EST
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I just hope he is a competent leader
The US and the World are too complicated and diverse to expect anything but competency from a world leader. Some of what he does will not be the right move, but hopefully most of what he does will make the world a better place. That’s all I hope.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 5, 2008 7:58 AM EST
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Maybe.
I might be conditioned to look for greatness, or at least hope for it. It’s certainly difficult to expect it because it’s so rare. How about competency with flashes of greatness? We Reds fans have settled for mediocrity, or less, for a long time. If President Obama looks into Putin’s eyes and sees anything other than “KGB” I’ll worry.
I’m not a big “government do everything guy” so if the new president simply inspires all of us to be the best we can be, he’ll have made a tremendous difference.
I hate it when I start out arguing with Slyde and end up agreeing with him.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 8:23 AM EST
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my point was not to necessarily deny the hope for greatness
but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed when the world isn’t completely changed in 4 years. Not that you are one of those, but I’m afraid many have forgotten that the world is like a giant ocean liner – the only time it quickly changes direction is when it hits something.
I’m not settling for mediocrity because mediocrity is failure (see: Bush, George W). I think you’ve worded it better than I can…
How about competency with flashes of greatness?
if the new president simply inspires all of us to be the best we can be, he’ll have made a tremendous difference.
I agree.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 5, 2008 8:33 AM EST
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anyone lookng for total change in 4 years
is unreleastic. I worry that people will expect too much from him, or from anyone in four years.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 5, 2008 10:02 AM EST
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I can only hope that out of George Bush comes Barack Obama.
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 5, 2008 12:37 AM EST
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Your hope has been rewarded.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 12:47 AM EST
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Not yet
I’ll let you know in four years how “Barack Obama” is doing.
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 5, 2008 12:53 AM EST
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Fair enough.
Here’s hoping it’s a glowing report. I hope President Obama is doing so well that I we both vote for him.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 8:07 AM EST
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I am so jazzed about swinging Virginia
Real, bitches!
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 4, 2008 11:54 PM EST
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Obama is one charismatic motherfucker
I’m not sure he can pull off the miracle needed, but I think we have a fighting chance. Getting everyone to work together is way more than half the battle at this point.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 5, 2008 12:09 AM EST
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Half of FDR's greatness was his chirisma.
if we believe we can do it
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by justin007000 on
Nov 5, 2008 12:18 AM EST
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The other half was taken away by polio
too soon?
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by Slyde on
Nov 5, 2008 7:59 AM EST
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Too soon? Naw.
A little levity is a good thing after 2 1/2 years of a campaign. With that said, when FDR was on a roll he was hard to stop.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 8:15 AM EST
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That's great
Rec’d
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 5, 2008 1:12 PM EST
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i love FDR polio jokes, as much as I love JFK and Lincoln jokes.
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by justin007000 on
Nov 5, 2008 10:03 AM EST
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Last night
Someone made the comment that Kennedy was the most overrated president, and another person chimed in, “He’s like Allen Iverson!” To which I replied, “The problem with Iverson is that he takes too many shots. …Ok, I see your point.”
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 5, 2008 10:10 AM EST
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I heard a completely unsubstantiated rumor
that the JFK administration leaked to the Russians that Johnny was on drugs, thinking that having a president who was twisted and irrational with his finger on the button would help during negotiations.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on
Nov 5, 2008 10:21 AM EST
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i thought that was nixon?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Nov 5, 2008 4:34 PM EST
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sounds like youre really proud of that joke
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Nov 5, 2008 4:33 PM EST
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I just got a staff email
We’re going to win NC… and IN, and MO (probably). It sunk in during that speech. We won, we actually won. I never really thought it would happen. Not until he got up on that stage…
I completely understand and respect disagreeing with his policies, but please realize that this means the absolute world, the absolute fucking world, to people like me that have put our lives on hold for this. This was the best night, and best year, of my life without question. I mean, I’m in the middle of nowhere in Appalachia, have had constant threats for the past 6 months, and am completely alone, but it was all worth it. I’m a hell of a lot closer to being an adult and I feel like we’ve got a fighting chance. I don’t think this guy’s got all the answers, but it seems like he will truly do his best and admit his mistakes. Ecstasy, is the only word that comes close.
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by chesirecat on
Nov 5, 2008 12:50 AM EST
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congratulations man
It sounds like you worked your ass off, relish in the rewards. You earned it.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 5, 2008 1:13 AM EST
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i've invested alot in his campaign too
not nearly as much as you have, i have done some canvassing, donated small amounts of money, talked him up to my friends, went to his convention, and I am feeling ecstasy as well. I was crying during his victory speech.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on
Nov 5, 2008 1:28 AM EST
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you were at the convention?
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 5, 2008 8:00 AM EST
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So all Obama staffers like ecstasy?
Seriously, congrats to you and Chesirecat.
by ken on
Nov 5, 2008 1:13 PM EST
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you can't really consider me a staffer
while i did more than show and up and vote for the guy, my efforts were nothing compared to Chesirecat. Chesirecat commited a year of his life to Obama. I commited about $30, a 12 day acadmic seminar (which included sneaking into the media party at 6 flags, getting free rides, games, beer, and food), a few hours of campaining, and telling my friends about him 2 years ago.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
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Nov 5, 2008 1:46 PM EST
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chesirecat and justin will be fine (such as he is)
After all, they’ve got Dusty to campaign against.
But I’m worried about these guys.
by bbjones on
Nov 6, 2008 7:14 PM EST
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Zobamabies?
"If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you? You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Nov 6, 2008 7:22 PM EST
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Those guys are me
I have no purpose in life now
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by chesirecat on
Nov 10, 2008 11:37 PM EST
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congrats, man!
Can you go work for the Reds now? please?
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on
Nov 5, 2008 8:00 AM EST
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Congratulations.
I like your passion. You’ve undoubtedly worked hard. Enjoy the victory.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 8:10 AM EST
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No word yet from Daedalus?
What a night.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on
Nov 5, 2008 8:09 AM EST
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Was that her on CNN,
dancing naked just outsde the gates of the White House about 10:30 p.m. yesterday?
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 8:12 AM EST
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funny thing...
i was at greg rhodes’ obama party. he of reds hall of fame fame.
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So what's it like being at a state university when a controversial candidate wins?
First I should let you know that UMaryland is one of the most comicall segregated places I have ever been. The Black, Latino, Gay, Indian, Iranian, Muslim, Jewish, Asian-American Student Unions all are very proud of Doing Their Own Thing to an absurd amount; for example, I was shunned by “my own” student union for hanging out too much with The Others. Not enough pride in m identity, etc.
Second thing you should know is that Maryland riots hard. Jon Stewart got his great “I thought Maryland was a safety school?” jibe in, and we deserved it.
So yeah, my apartment is right on the main drag of College Park, and even though I was stuck writing a paper all night, when I started hearing folks singing “We [have] overcome” I figured that the election was called for the Mighty O. More and more folks bled into the streets, lots of “Obama!” and “Yes we did!” chants, and the like. My favorite part of the night was my roomate coming back from a frat thing at like, 3 AM, getting caught up in the moment (I’m pretty sure he voted for McCain) and screaming OBAMA! out the window until he fell out of it. My personal lowlight was some dude (not Luke Scott, I don’t think) getting a megaphone out and telling people “You aren’t real Americans! Go back to Africa! Move to Canada! Get out of my country!” Somebody started a “scoreboard!” chant at him, which was pretty awesome.
Overall, I think it may be the closest I get to feeling what it was like when the Berlin Wall came down. And to think I was stuck writing a paper about the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on
Nov 5, 2008 8:43 AM EST
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I celebrated by eating some apple pie
America!
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 5, 2008 9:58 AM EST
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I went out to the bar last night around 1 or so
not much celebration at this small conservative methodist college in rural northwest ohio.
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by justin007000 on
Nov 5, 2008 10:06 AM EST
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Did you order three fingers of brandy
and think back wistfully to your days in Cuba and Denver?
by Brendanukkah on
Nov 5, 2008 10:11 AM EST
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Go Klondike!
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
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Nov 5, 2008 10:15 AM EST
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A couple of downers from last night
Ted Stevens appears to have won Alaska. What the fuck will it take to get rid of that guy. He is fucking crazy, talks fucking crazy, and is a convicted fellon.
I was also hoping to see Norm Coleman picked off. I am not Franken’s biggest fan, but I don’t like Coleman at all and I think it is an abomination that he won Wellstone’s seat.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
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Nov 5, 2008 3:20 PM EST
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this will go down as the year alaska and batshit officially tied the knot
although someone reminded me today that stevens has a lot of tenure and considerable pull for an alaskan, which the state would forfeit if it chose a newcomer. plus the breeders’ cup-gate might add some fuel to stevens’ appeal. i can understand why alaskans would vote for tubes, even if i think theyre idiots.
also, way to go california! If there’s one thing Jim Crow taught us, it’s that civil rights are totally overrated.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Nov 5, 2008 4:58 PM EST
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how long will it be before states start to reverse their bans on gay marriage?
While cultural “conservatives” may win the day (well not this day but like days in 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, and 2004), culture is always becoming more “liberal”. Gay marriage wasn’t an issue 30 years ago like it is today because there weren’t enough people to fight for it to make it an issue. Cultural conservatives see that they are lossing ground on these issues and want to put up every road block.
I have no problem with fiscal conservatives and I respect and to some extend share their view points. But my problem is with cultural conservatives, which is ultimatly why I can not be a Republican. I liked not praying in school, and have gay friends, and while personally against abortion i feel that there should be no legislation banning it, and so on and so forth.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
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Nov 5, 2008 5:05 PM EST
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Can someone explain to me please
How a convicted felon who’s not even on probation cannot vote in fourteen (I think) states, yet that fucker can be elected as one?
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 5, 2008 5:20 PM EST
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the constitution establishes the laws for being a member of Congress and the Senate.
Nothing in the constitution says anything about being a felon. I guess the Founding Fathers hoped the voters would know better than to elect a felon? James Traficant won 15% of the vote in 2002 from prison.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
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Nov 5, 2008 5:37 PM EST
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I'm just ranting
Funny how lawmakers forgot to throw in the “can’t run for elected office” clause in the legislation barring felons from voting.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Nov 6, 2008 9:31 AM EST
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what's funny is if he were a convicted rapist, people would be outraged that he was still running
but since he only used his public office for personal gain and then lied about it, it’s okay to re-elect him to that public office.
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by Slyde on
Nov 6, 2008 9:36 AM EST
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I found this interesting
I was wondering if he was allowed to vote. Apparently he was.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
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Nov 6, 2008 10:01 AM EST
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You'll all love this.
In Huntington, W.Va., right across the Ohio from where I live, a candidate for magistrate was busted last week for purchasing crack in a Rite Aid parking lot. While being arrested, she told the cop that she was buying it for someone else and had done so five other times. She then attempted to bribe the cop. Her admission and bribery attempt has her looking at something like 60 years in the big house.
No, she didn’t win the election. Finished dead last, I think.
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by Thundering Turtle on
Nov 5, 2008 5:40 PM EST
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She should move to Alaska...
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on
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A friend sent me this:
“FWD: ALL WHITE PEOPLE MUST REPORT 2 THE COTTON FIELDS TOMORROW MORNING AT 5AM FOR ORIENTATION!”
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
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