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SIS - favorite US city(Continental 48 only)

This week many of us had the good fortune to head out on the highway, heavy metal thundah style, and travel to see loved ones.  As a child i always enjoyed seeing different parts of this country from the left rear window of my parents automobile du jour.  Without a doubt the highlight of those trips was when we hit a major or minor metropolitan city, especially ones that had a baseball or football stadium that I could see. The family spent a lot of time reflecting on good memories after Thanksgiving dinner and it was surprising to note how many of those memories centered on vacation or road trips for us.

Earlier this year I visited Chicago and Dallas for the first time.  Both were BIG, full of traffic, and full of sprawl.  It got me to thinking about the places Ive been over the years and which ones really left an impression on me.  The three most OBC-livable cities were Charleston, SC.....Nashville, TN....and Portland, OR.  (more on why in the comment section, perhaps) 

So what say you?  What cities have left a mark on you and why?  I think there should be some interesting viewpoints and opinions on this topic.  

(least favorite? LA. No contest.  But get around Venice/Santa Barbara and CA is pretty damn cool) 

 

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Just for reference here is the largest US metropolitan regions:

Cities ranked by urban agglomeration population.
 
City Name
 Inhabitants
New York (NY) 21,199,865
Los Angeles (CA) 16,373,645
Chicago (IL) 9,157,540
    
Washington (DC) 7,608,070
San Francisco (CA) 7,039,362
Philadelphia (PA) 6,188,463
Boston (MA) 5,819,100
Detroit (MI) 5,456,428
Dallas (TX) 5,221,801
Houston (TX) 4,669,571
Atlanta (GA) 4,112,198
Miami (FL) 3,876,380
Seattle (WA) 3,554,760
Phoenix (AZ) 3,251,876
Minneapolis (MN) 2,968,806
Cleveland (OH) 2,945,831
San Diego (CA) 2,813,833
St Louis (MO) 2,603,607
Denver (CO) 2,581,506
Tampa (FL) 2,395,997
Pittsburgh (PA) 2,358,695
Portland (OR) 2,265,223
Sacramento (CA) 1,796,857
Kansas City (MO) 1,776,062
Milwaukee (WI) 1,689,572
Orlando (FL) 1,644,561
Indianapolis (IN) 1,607,486
San Antonio (TX) 1,592,383
Norfolk (VA) 1,569,541
Las Vegas (NV) 1,563,282
Columbus (OH) 1,540,157
Charlotte (NC) 1,499,293
New Orleans (LA) 1,337,726

by obc2 on Nov 29, 2008 12:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I had no idea that DC was the fourth largest metropolitan area in the country

But now the commute to work makes a LOT more sense. Seriously, the District itself has far fewer people than Columbus, and only slightly larger than Louisville.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 29, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Vegas

Most fun I’ve had in the CONUS, to the point it scared me a little. I have friends that live in the area, and there’s NO WAY I could be that close to that much debauchery.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

most fun I had in the conus was with this little number out behind the Wal-Mart

and let me tell you, it scared me a little, too.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Nov 29, 2008 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just got back from Vegas today.

It was my third visit there. I work a college basketball tournament — the one Kentucky just won. I serve as the tournament chaplain and do some SID work for the director, who is a good friend. Vegas is fun to visit. Carrott Top is amazingly funny, by the way. I’ve discovered there is nothing you can get into in Vegas that you can;’ get into in Huntington. It’s just much, much easier in Vegas.

My favorite city is Charleston, S.C. When I covered Marshall, I went there every other year when the Herd played The CItadel, which itself is worth seeing. The food is tremendous, the city is clean, it’s a history buff’s dream, Folly Beach is nice and the views are beautiful.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Dec 2, 2008 6:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of all the cities I visited....

I like St. Louis, friendly ppl. Chicago, while big, has a lot of friendly nice ppl also, as long as you stay north of the Cell or Old Comiskey or whatever they call it now. I had a lot of fun on the North Side….. I also like Louisville, it reminded me of Grand Rapids, except the ppl were friendlier in Louisville. Cincinnati I had fun in too. People there seemed really nice and I found it easy to get around. Downtown Manhattan was fun, but then I knew ppl there and so all I had to do was follow them around, not try to find my way around. It was fascinating seeing all those ppl and going through Little Italy, Chinatown and all the other ethnic neighborhoods. They do everything much different there and it was fascinating to watch.

Cities I hate with a passion… Detroit. It is a huge crap hole and the ppl are nasty and except for where that stinkin new ball park is at it looks like a war zone. If they ever voted to cede it to Canada I would support it. Washington DC is unfriendly and the wheel set-up of the streets is a pain in the butt to navigate. I didn’t like Atlanta either. But, thats my 2 cents for whatever its worth….

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.-Rogers Hornsby

by thegashousegang on Nov 29, 2008 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like Louisville as well

But then again I’m from KY and a U of L fan. :)

I went to Nashville for the first time this spring and had a ball. I had fun in Atlanta but I was in the same situation as you were in NYC, I had a tour guide.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looeyville's a'ight

Reds AAA affiliate, Louisville Slugger Museum and 4th st live. Not too shabby.

by obc2 on Nov 30, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's ok

but i didn’t love 4th st live

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 30, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i lived there for 5 years

Bardstown road / Baxter avenue is way better for a bar scene

"Here's to you, Mr. Ceremonial First First Pitch Thrower Outer"

by jmgard6 on Dec 2, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm considering migrating out to St. Louis if I go grad school

I’ve been in Chicago back in the day, and St.L seems like a smaller, quieter, more interesting-per-square-mile Chicago. It certainly seems like a place I’d happily end up.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Nov 29, 2008 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My list(s)

Of the cities I’ve visited, my five favorite:

Boston
Minneapolis
Chicago
NYC
Denver

I think I would also really like Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco, but I haven’t made it out to those yet; I’ve heard good things about Pittsburgh but haven’t made it there, either. If you include Canadian cities, Montreal and Toronto would be up there with these.

Oh, and cities I’ve visited and absolutely hated:

Houston
Atlanta
Anything in Florida

This place is like a sexy preschool.

by Gray on Nov 29, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

New Orleans in a landslide (so to speak)

Although I haven’t been back since the hurricane, no other city felt quite so perfect to me as New Orleans. The food, the music, the drinking and the male prostitutes….ahh, sweet. It was just dirty enough, just gloomy enough, just secretive enough, and just Tom Waits-ish enough to really please me.

And a strong second is Vegas. I dig it too, jch. I loved Vegas’ obviousness, and its openly gaudy, decadent demeanor. An excess of everything. More, more, more. Vegas doesn’t pretend to be anything other than its tacky, rock out with its cock out self. Love it.

by Pops Daniels on Nov 29, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damn

I forgot NO, I went four or so times while stationed in Biloxi. I did some very bad things there and had a TON of fun (shootings in the street are scary though)

I’m seriously torn trying to decide which one was more my favorite.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NOLA

I think i might have considered moving to NOLA after Katrina IF i didnt have kids. It is a one of a kind experience, isnt it? Im an admitted Creole/Cajun food junkie and a live music junkie. Oh, and I like bare breastesses to boot.

I hope the Bearcats get the Sugar Bowl bid, it will be a much better city to visit on New Years Day than stinkin Miami.

by obc2 on Nov 30, 2008 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess we know which Will Smith you prefer

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 30, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i have only lived in DC, but as far as visiting...

1. NYC
2. San Fran
3. DC
4. Chicago
5. Boston

Cities I haven’t been to but really want to go – New Orleans, Memphis, and Seattle.

Haven’t been to LA in my adult life – don’t think I’d like it, as I am not into superficiality and plastic people. Haven’t been to Houston or Dallas and have no desire to go except to visit the baseball stadiums.

by Daedalus on Nov 29, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

one city i really liked

was Austin, but since it’s in Texass, it is not eligible for my most liked list.

by Daedalus on Nov 29, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chicago is my favorite, easily.

I lived there for 2 years and I can’t wait to move back. I just like all the opportunities it offers. You’re never bored either. The only thing I don’t care for are the Cuns fans.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Nov 29, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really a city person

I really liked Ann Arbor, Michigan when I visited my sister there. It’s just such a charming little town. Not really much of a city, though.

For a real city…Boston is great, unless you want to drive around it. (And it does suffer from an infestation of Red Sox fans. ;-) New York is not as pretty, but it’s got an excitement Boston lacks.

I haven’t seen much of Chicago, but downtown is very cool, with all those drawbridges.

Least favorite US city…um, probably Newark, NJ. The people are very nice, but the city is dump, and a traffic nightmare. I’m not too wild about San Francisco, either. It’s beautiful, but I’ve found that in general, the people there are a lot ruder and a lot crazier than, say, New Yorkers.

I’m not wild about Atlanta, either. It’s a Kunstlerian nightmare. I vacationed there a few years ago, and stayed at a hotel downtown. It had a big sign outside advertising “the best salad in Atlanta.” So of course, my friends and I ordered salads for lunch.

It was probably the worst salad I’ve ever seen. A few leaves of brown, soggy iceberg, an unripe tomato wedge, and some shreds of carrot. With French dressing that had a distinct chemical flavor. That horrible salad is still a running joke whenever I see the friends I was traveling with that time. Somehow, the sheer audacity of serving something that awful while claiming it’s the best in the city just boggles the mind.

The restaurant made me really uncomfortable, and not just because of the awful salad. All the wait staff were black, and all the customers were white. I’m sure it was just the demographics of the area, but it kinda made me feel I was back on the plantation or something.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 29, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Worst trip of my short life

I flew from Cincy to Newark the Sunday after Thanksgiving for training the following week. I’ve been in my share of airports and had seen nothing like the madness that was Newark Int’l the Sunday after Thanksgiving. Then I got to pay $45 for a 10 minute ride to the hotel while seeing some of the ugliest scenery I had ever seen. Think post-apocalyptic Neumann Ave. (GE plant area) in Cincy.

To top it off, I was laid off the week after I got back. That’s right, laid off two weeks or so before xmas. Sucked HARD.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That is often how they do it

For accounting reasons, companies have incentive to do their layoffs at the end of the year – which means during the holidays. Some try to be kind by not giving out the pink slips until after Christmas, so as not to “spoil” the holiday. But of course, it’s probably better for the employees to know before they do their Christmas spending, not after.

However, sending someone to Newark before firing them is a new level of cruelty.

You probably put the cab ride on your expense account, but if you’re ever at the Newark Airport without an expense account, most hotels offer a free shuttle service to and from the airport.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 29, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it was all expensed eventually

But that just added another level of fun to the separation proceedings.

I understood why the company did it, I just never understood why they didn’t scrap the 10K trip for me and keep me on for a couple more months. :)

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mikey

My best friend lives somewhere outside Hoboken, near where Bon Jovi grew up I think. Anyway, its always an adventure flying into Newark. What a dump. I think I’d have to rank Newark as perhaps the most depressing city I’ve ever been in. Bleak.

by obc2 on Nov 30, 2008 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Newark's airport is like a dungeon.

Or at least it was when I was there.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Dec 2, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's actually improved

since Torquemada was demoted from head of the New Jersey Transit Authority.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Dec 2, 2008 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indianapolis is a terrific city..

it’s in the middle of nowhere, but the downtown area is very nice

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 29, 2008 4:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i guess i'm that guy

who puts LA on his list of “best” places. maybe i should start traveling more.

others:
savannah, ga
st. augustine, fl
burlington, vt
DC

“worst”:
newark
tallahassee, fl

Wha' happened??

by Dubman on Nov 29, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My two faves

Indianapolis, where I grew up and lived until the age of 33. Beautiful, inexpensive, relatively crime-free — a big city with a small town feel and a great place to raise a family.

And

New York, where I currently live. Always exciting, sometimes maddening, but there is no other city like it that I’ve ever seen. You can tap into the electricity of the immensity and diversity or mellow out in your own little enclave of a neighborhood. New York is all things to all people, if you only know where to look.

p.s. Yankees suck.

by ctnyc on Nov 29, 2008 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

New York, New York

The town so nice they named it twice.

And where NFL players shoot themselves in the leg.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 29, 2008 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My Plax story

In my money league I traded Tony Romo straight up for Plax two weeks or so ago. This was when Romo was still coming back and before the hamstring and shooting. It’s by far the worst trade I have ever made. Plax will probably score zero points for my team this year. Fuck that dude.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Man, that is a gawd-awful trade.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 29, 2008 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

I still have Philip Rivers, who’s not too shabby. I was dealing from a strength and worse yet could have asked for and gotten TO in all likelihood.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm eerily similar to OBC

I may go to Portland in a bit, but I really dug Nashville. My all-time favorite so far, though is San Antonio, Texas. I just really like the Texas-y-ness of it. Not the Texas stereotype, but theres actually a lot of diversity of opinion, upbringing, food, etc. in a relatively small area. And the riverwalk is one of the most atmospheric places I’ve been.

My top 5 would be: San Antonio, Albuquerque/Santa Fe (I split my time between the two, and loved them both), Nashville, Salt Lake City (but could never, ever, live there. Great place for a conference, though!) and Richmond. I don’t really have a specific order after SA.

Least favorite may be DC…there’s really no time where I’ve taken a deep breath and gone, “ahhh, Washington! Breathe! It! In!” but that may just be a factor of College Park. Pittsburgh also makes me kind of sad/heartbroken. I have yet to form a memory of Cleveland, and I’m writing this from the 216 right now.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Nov 29, 2008 7:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

anyone watching UK-UT?

Erin Andrews is wearing a fleece and a ballcap. Way to know your demographic watching college football at 7 on a Saturday, ESPN!

(or maybe Stacey Dales finally got into Ms. Andrews’ head)

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Nov 29, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

of course i'm watching it...

chan always points out that erin andrews needs a nose job. it’s really apparent with her wearing that cap tonight.

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 29, 2008 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

She's wearing a cap?

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate San Antonio

But my feelings may be warped from basic training in the July heat. :)

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 29, 2008 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Places I have enjoyed (that haven't been mentioned yet)...

Montpelier- the quaint capital of Vermont, great sledding hills in quiet forests

Kansas City- spent a weekend there one summer and had a blast, might have been more about the experience than the city, but it somehow had San Francisco-minus-the-bay feel

Philadelphia- think it is my favorite east coast city, lots of cool stuff happening but a whole lot more manageable (on bikes) than New York, DC and from what it sounds like, Boston.

Internationally…

Copenhagen, Denmark-
Prague, Czech Republic
Guadalajara, Mexico
Toronto, Canada
Sao Paolo, Brazil

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Nov 29, 2008 7:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

strangely enough

ive been to more international cities than US cities. my wife and i have decided that seeing more of our native land is a top priority and plan on headin’ west for a while in the next year. that said, the best towns in America:

Brooklyn, NY. i might still be suffering from the contact high from visiting my brother-in-law there last weekend, which could be artificially inflating its ranking, but it really is a great place. it seems like a hundred small towns all clustered together. each neighborhood is different from the next, but just similar enough to maintain continuity. and there are like a million hidden little secrets that “you just have to see”. and its just a subway ride away from the heart of western civilization. and pizza.

Columbus, OH. i live here and i dont plan on moving. small enough to not suffocate you, but big enough to have a thriving arts and intellectual community. Ohio Theatre, Gallery Hop, the Newport, the zoo, Cabot Rea…we just need reliable public transit. and cages for the undergrads.

i also liked DC and Indy. Nashville, Austin, and Milwaukee are on my to-do list.

i really didnt like Boston. 3 separate cab drivers in a two day period gave me east coast bullshit for being from Ohio. fuck them. the Sam Adams brewery was nice though.

internationally, Florence, Italy is the tops. the whole town is on permanent vacation. and the architecture alone is enough to bring you to religion. London is great too. the greatest museums in the world and they are all free!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 29, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like London, too

Free museums, and plays on the West End that would cost five times as much on Broadway.

Don’t take the east coast BS personally. It’s just New Englanders’ idea of friendly humor.

The ghost hunters (based in Rhode Island) went to Ohio last week, and spent the drive over making jokes about how there’s nothing but corn in Ohio.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 29, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem

They rotate it with soy.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 30, 2008 2:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was at a loss for this thread

until you mentioned Firenze. I spent a year there when I was 16. Good times.

by Red Menace on Nov 30, 2008 1:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Loved living outside of Orlando for 10 years - went back after 15 years and was disappointed

also enjoyed visiting New Orleans and Rapid City, SD

Gulf Shores, AL was a lot of fun

Hated Chicago, Buffalo, and Pittsburgh

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Nov 29, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what part?

I lived in Kissimmee for a while, the world’s biggest tourist trap. It was ok, it was nice being close to the Bee Line and one hour from a beach! The weirdest thing was anywhere you called besides Kissimmee was long distance. (Yes this was before cel phones. I am old.)

by obc2 on Nov 30, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As you can see by my tag-line

I’m old too.

I lived in Casselberry! Off of Red Bug Road.

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Nov 30, 2008 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When I first moved to Orlando, I asked a local how to pronounce "Kissimmee."

She said "It’s (Kuh-sim’-me) by day , and (Kiss’-uh-me) by night.

The more you know!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Dec 6, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Only place I have lived that I cana ctually remember is here

Here in Columbia, MO. I’m not gonna lie, it’s pretty much perfect for me. To be honest I’d kinda like to live out in the country… own a good bit of land, and be able to bug hunt all day long… :D

Some other cities I’ve enjoyed-

San Francisco- although I wouldn’t want to live there or in any city with a comparable population size.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Nov 29, 2008 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm in the crolfer boat

not being much of a traveling type, and only having lived in 2 cities (Columbus, OH and Asheville, NC). It’s funny, I hated Columbus when I lived there as a kid but like it more and more every time I come back to visit the family. Case in point, I’ve been up here a week for Thanksgiving and have loved it, so go figure. As a comparison, I go to school in Charlotte. They’re right next to each other in terms of population and Columbus wins in a landslide. Absolutely no culture whatsoever.

As for Asheville, it was a lot better 10 years ago before it was ranked as the best place to live in every guide book in the U.S. But… it’s got beauty surrounding it that you can’t find much anywhere else. I love living outside of town in the mountains, it’s gorgeous. Definitely worth a visit for all you midwesterners.

by chesirecat on Nov 30, 2008 12:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oxford, Ohio, Columbia, MO, Bloomington, IN

small college towns are the best

worst: Tucson, AZ .. lived there for a couple of years … the traffic is brutal.

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Nov 30, 2008 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Best I've visited

Likes:
New York
London
Cuzco
Arequipa
Chicago
Charleston
Lexington Va.
Boulder
Seattle
Ann Arbor
Yellow springs Oh
San Antonio
Santa Fe
Boston

Worst:
Columbus Oh
Oakland Cal
Waltham Mass
Boynton beach
Atlanta
Portland Oregon (Rain Capital)
Nashville
St. Louis
Any City in Mexico

Best Places I’ve lived:

Cincinnati
San Francisco
Boston
Madison Wisconsin
Phoenix
Oxford, Oh

Worst places I’ve lived

Delaware Oh
Urbana Oh
Marshall Wisconsin
Berkley Cal.

 

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 30, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nashville on the worst list?

How so? I had nothing but fun there.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 1, 2008 12:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, my visits to Nashville are probably skewed.

I was there in 1973 in the summertime. I was auditioning for a job as a guitar player for Don Williams, an up and coming singer who went on to moderate/good success. The city was unbearably humid. The area of town that I was in was chintzy-junky and the cost of living was way out of line. Although I was offered the job to play with Don and his band, the pay sucked and the city didn’t do it at all for me so I declined the offer and moved to Oxford Oh to play music there.

The other 2 times I visited Nashville, I took my mother (86yrs and 88yrs. old) to the Opry. We stayed at Opryland Hotel which is one of the most bizarre place on earth. The 1st time wasn’t too bad because it was so surreal. But all in all it was pretty creepy. The place is like Knots Berry Farm on steroids.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 1, 2008 2:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well......

ya know you’ve hit rock bottom when youve landed in Oxford, OH!!!!

by obc2 on Dec 1, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Hey Hey Now !

Oxford was great. 18,000 stranded students, only 2 bars, plenty of places to play music and about 10,000 college girls. I met Mrs. M. there.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 2, 2008 8:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

New mascot

Miami Dry Clams.

yup. I went there. (except for the missus, of course. you found the needle in a haystack.)

by obc2 on Dec 2, 2008 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I went to Oxford as it was significantly behind the rest of the Country

I lived there from about 1974 – 77. It still felt like 1967. The girls at that time were just learning about a new thing called ’Women’s Lib’, burning bras etc. It was an opportunity to help them along in their quests for intellectual and sexual liberation. Of course that was prior to meeting Mrs. M.

Typical Miami girl circa 1972

Now they all look so processed.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 2, 2008 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a classic rock guy, but

Don WIlliams has a terrific voice. I always liked him. I’m impressed, Madville.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Dec 2, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don Williams is a really underrated musician

And he’s a hell of a nice guy.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 2, 2008 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By no means is it the best city, or even my favorite

But this weekend, Dayton was like comfort food in municipal form. I had a wonderful time back home.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 1, 2008 12:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I forgot, I lived in Dayton for 10 montrhs on Fountaine Ave.

Sorry Brendan but Dayton has got to be the worst place I’ve lived. I don’t even like to drive through it.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 1, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing I remember about Dayton

Opening the phone book and seeing more ads for “escort services” than I have ever seen in my life. (Because of the Air Force base, I was told.)

How is Dayton doing these days? They’re closing that auto manufacturing plant. Do they have any other industries there? Besides Wright-Pat and its accompanying escort services, that is.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 1, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you were misinformed

the number of escort services has little to do with the Air Force base and everything to do with Brendan’s mom.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 1, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

When you’ve got for instance, a top selling high end car dealer in town, its only good business that other dealers flock to the same area. One dealer just can service everyone’s needs.

I look at Oakwood and parts of Centerville as more like Northern Cincinnati than Dayton.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 1, 2008 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good point

Like how the number of independent coffee houses frequently increase following the opening of a Starbucks.

by Red Menace on Dec 1, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you a hint

My mom’s business only rhymes with “Starbucks.”

by Brendanukkah on Dec 1, 2008 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I got home from spending a few days in Boston

and I enjoyed it, except for the part where despite flying it took 14 hours to get from my friends apartment in Boston to my apartment in Ada. If you ever find yourself in Boston check out the Harpoon Brewery. They have a free tasting 3 times a day, you basically get all the beer you can drink in there period of time, and it is all fresh brewed on cite or in Vermont.

My favorite city is Chicago. I just love that town, I can’t get there enough, and I hope to earn my MA at Chicago Loyola if I can get in, and Roosevelt is my backup. I love the food, the art museum, music, 2nd city, and the just the feel of the city. The only problem is there are a couple of Cubs fans up there.

Pittsburgh really surprised me. I was expecting it to be dead inside much like Cincinnati, but it is actually quite vibrant, which is good since I spend about 1 weekend there a month with my girlfriend.

D.C. is a great city, I don’t think I need to cover anything more about it.

Milwaukee also surprised me this summer. Best German food ever in America is at Madre’s in Milwaukee. If you find yourself in town take a lakefront brewery tour, show up early and you can get a start on the basically all you can drink before the tour starts. It is only $6 and the tour is given by one of the two brothers who owns the brewery, who was shitfaced when he gave our tour. At about every stop you can fill up your cup, and you get a free glass for taking the tour.

I loved Denver. It is still a rising city, but it was amazing, I am really glad the DNC choose Denver. The mountains are beautiful, the food is excellent.

Havana is not a place to spend more than a few days in. The food is terrible, the service awful, and it is a cultural wasteland because of a ‘“top-down” gov’t created culture. You can spend 45 minutes at an uncrowded restaurant waiting for food that requires very little preparation. The mass transit sucks, and cabs are expensive. Plus the old Soviet cars and trucks make a filtered cigarette or cigar the safer way to breath.

Rome-I didn’t care that much for Rome. I preferred Sorento, which had better food, nicer people, and less street crime. I want to go back to Rome, because I did not see all the historical attractions I wanted to, but the Gypsy’s, and the militarized feel of the city left me feeling uneasy and in need of Xanax.

Shanghai-Probably my favorite foreign city. The food (American, European, and Chinese) was excellent and cheap. The way the city has grown is really amazing, and the city is a cite to see.

Beijing-I preferred Shanghai but Beijing was excellent too.

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 2, 2008 12:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"brewed on cite"

I’ve missed you, Justin.

I forgot about Milwaukee, which was my favorite part of living outside Chicago. The Wisconsin State Fair is probably the whitest form of hedonism I’ve seen, I love it.

I justmissed going to Shanghai this fall…I hear its a good place to get suits for cheap, though, so I’m going to go there before I get a job, I think.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Dec 2, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good idea

go to China to buy a cheap suit. oh, and could you stop by Michigan on your way and drop off my empty bottles and cans?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 2, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I took a draf physical in Milwaukee in 1968

It was at a Marine Post. I won’t go into the details but I was deferred pending physiological counseling.

All I remember was that the city was bleak and run down. Maybe it was the gram of hash I ate for breakfast.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 2, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

physiological counseling?

Were they gonna feed you, or fuck you?

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 2, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They wondered if I was stable enough to come to my fellow soldier's aid under attack. I explained that I grew up with guns and like guns a lot and would not be troubled by shooting at anything that moved.

The fact that I dressed in cowboy boots and no underwear and had very very very long hair made me conspicuous when we all had to disrobe and walk around the place i’ll tel the rest of the story some other time.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 2, 2008 7:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i got a picture of you and a girl from karaoke night

why don’t you tell me that story?

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Dec 3, 2008 8:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHA

That was Gloria. She was up from Florida because her mom had died. And in her own words, “There are a lot of crazy motherfuckers out there, like Ted Bundy and other serial killers. I’m crazy, but all I do is like to drink and have a good time, ya know?”

We danced, we laughed, we cried, we ate scones.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 3, 2008 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's it ?

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2008 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, not exactly

The story goes as follows:

obc and I decide to meet up and have a few beers somewhere. We end up at a rather crappy bar in Ludlow of all places, simply because some of my girlfriend’s family run a karaoke show there on the weekend. obc & I are not your average patrons at this place so we grab a couple beers and a table off to the side and begin to watch the UK-Vandy football game.

As with any good karaoke show, there is downtime where they play some music for people to dance to. Well, this gem of a woman who looked to be in her 50s gets out on the floor and proceeds to drop it down low, shake it like a salt shaker, etc. to every song whether those moves were appropriate or not. We all have a chuckle and think nothing more of it.

During one of her trips to/from the dance floor she walks by as I’m lighting a cigarette and asks me for a light. No problem, I give her a light and expect her to move on. Nope. She wants to talk. As I joked that night, I have worked long and hard to cultivate a personality where people don’t feel the need to initiate conversation with me unnecessarily in a public place. Long story short, she jabbers on for a bit and moves on. Again we chuckle and think nothing more of it.

Then a slow song comes on. This lady saunters over to our table and mumbles something incoherent to me. In my life I have worked with a large number of people whose first language was something other than English and have rarely ever had trouble understanding them. This lady was different. I couldn’t figure out what the hell she was saying AT ALL. I thought she wanted another light since she had her hand out until I managed to decipher “two steps” and “oh come on”. She wants to dance. Shit. I politely decline several times, but she’s not taking no for an answer. My girlfriend happens to be singing said slow song so eventually the thought hits me – this could be really funny. “You know what, let’s do this thing” I say, and Gloria and I begin to glide around the dance floor. I can’t dance for shit and she’s plastered so you can imagine how this looked. Also, she was about 5’2" or so and I’m around 6’4", this only added to the hilarity.

After the dancing she pretty well left me alone until she was ready to leave, at which point she balanced her craziness against that of a world-renowned serial killer. At this point I needed a picture for posterity, which ’tHan apparently received from my good buddy obc.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 3, 2008 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i've had it since the day after..

i was gonna wait til redsfest to ask, but you won’t be there.

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Dec 3, 2008 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The important question.....

How good of a sing er is your girlfriend?

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2008 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AND somehow it doesn't surprise me that obc was in a strange bar somewhere....

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2008 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

highway to the danger zone

i was just a wingman to the Maverick.

by obc2 on Dec 3, 2008 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You and Sarah !

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My honest reaction

The first time I went out with her and she sang, she said that same thing a lot of girls say, “Oh I love to sing, it’s like I was born to do it”. The problem is most of these girls sound like a cat after it was shot with a salt load. Not her. IMHO, she can really sing. It’s cool to me since I have absolutely zero musical talent. obc might be a better judge though, since he’s not sleeping with her. :)

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Dec 3, 2008 10:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, obc - what's the verdict

Can jch’s GF belt out a tune or what ? ( I too, surmise that you are not sleeping with her.) I’m thinking of going back into the biz…maybe retro pre-punk – post glam alternative grunge band with a touch of Rap…I could use a singer who’s:
1. Female
2. young
3. Cute
4. Talented
5. Has not slept with obc

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2008 11:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Until i got to #5

I was going to rec brendan’s mom

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Dec 3, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, who hasn't rec'd Brendan's mom?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Dec 3, 2008 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My guess is that Brendan's mom has a quality line that may not be friendly to a roustabout like obc

she has to draw the line somewhere!

obc on the left!
Drill baby Drill

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how do you constantly surprise me?

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2008 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jeez

Til #5 you had narrowed the herd…..now you’re searching for an extremely endangered, possibly extinct, animal.

by obc2 on Dec 3, 2008 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i love scones

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Dec 3, 2008 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For the record........

*jch lit her smoke, a full size CIGAR.

*I couldnt understand her at all, i caught every 7th word. Maybe. And i used to have Filipino in laws straight whom I could have conversations with easily. And half their words were Tagalog.

*She was dead in my smartass cross hairs til i learned her mom passed away. I didnt buy she was from Key Largo, however.

*She forgot her name for a good 20 count after being asked. High Comedy! Higher comedy was seeing her dance on an empty dance floor with palms on floor, head near floor and everything else sky high. i need a beer, asap. (shudder)

*JCH’s lady can sing. ive seen her in two different locations belted some tunes. She has yet to top my rendition of Purple Rain, however. (long story)

*Yes I was asked to dance also, it seems, but couldnt decipher the code of consonants said rumpshaker was uttering. jch’s quasi sister in law saved the day by proclaiming we were married. GREAT first impression, she earned a captain and coke for that kick save.

by obc2 on Dec 3, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Obviously tou need a translater who speaks the 'TrailerPark' dialect of WhiteTrash.

I am available for a small fee, next time.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Big mistake

Lord only knows how you’d reply.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 3, 2008 10:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but it would make a great story

for the rest of us!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Dec 6, 2008 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Week late but..

Quickly:
1) NYC – hands down.
2) San Francisco
3) Raleigh/Chapel Hill/Durham
4) Cleveland – lived there for a year and it really gets a bad rap. The west side is a lot of fun.
5) Pittsburgh (architecture)

"Patterson, Keppinger, Bako.... Cream of the Suck" -Slyde

by snohio on Dec 10, 2008 9:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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