Rec'd: Reds go Green
The Reds will be presented an award on Thursday from the Hamilton County Solid Waste Management District for recycling innovation and outstanding results.
We put a lot of crap on this site bemoaning the mistakes that the organization makes. And while I'm sure there is more that can be done in this area, I say we at least congratulate them on making some progress. Click the link to see some of what they are doing to reuse and recycle at the ballpark.
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the environment is for pussies
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 12, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like mountain lions!
And cougars!
And pumas!
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
by andromache on Nov 12, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if i want to drive my stretch hummer
with the A/C on, windows down, a gasoline generator on the roof to power my plasma 98 inch tv, and man size freezer in the back, i should damn beable to do what i damn well please.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 12, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If only we could all so beable
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Nov 12, 2008 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Stephen Colbert says,
Earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, tsunamis! The Earth is trying to kill us.
I say, we kill it first.
by bbjones on Nov 12, 2008 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And yet there's no decent way to get to the field...
without driving. Stupid Cincinnati, killing the subway, then killing Metro Moves.
I realize this isn’t the Reds’ fault, but it never ceases to amaze me how little concern Americans show for the environmental impact of limiting transportation options.
But hey, I’m glad to see that they recycled some portion of the bottles used at the ballpark and composted their grass clippings.
This place is like a sexy preschool.
by Gray on Nov 12, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
like I said
there’s still a lot more to do.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Nov 12, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
and I feel like a crochety grouch, but I think Al Gore has a good point here.
We’re facing an environmental crisis of possibly catastrophic scope, and all we can think to do is switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs and recycle our beer bottles?
This place is like a sexy preschool.
by Gray on Nov 12, 2008 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by killing the subway
do you mean back in teh 20s or 30s?
I do agree with you. It would be nice to take a train to the ballpark. I would like to see Ohio linked up with trains, a line that runs from Cincinnati-Dayton-Toledo, with stops in Lima, Middletown, Sidney, West Chester, Hamilton, Bowling Green, and each of the stops being a hub of mass transit for the region.
Another one that runs Cincinnati-Columbus-Cleveland, with similar stops. Maybe one that Runs Dayton-Columbus, Stuebenville. Etc etc etc. I wouldn’t mind not using my car if I could take a train around the state. It may take a little longer, but it would be cheaper, and better for the environment.
Mass transit can effect other things besides the environment. 16 and 17 year olds are the most dangerous drivers. (I would like to know if that is because 16 and 17 is too young of an age to drive, or if it is just because they are the least experianced), but it is almost a nesacisty to drive at that age. When I got my liscense my life and my familes life became much easier. If we had a decent train and bus system, 16 and 17 year olds would not need to drive.
Too bad this country is so deeply in debt, would be nice to see some money put up to build rail lines. Imagine if every state connected its major cities with passenger rail service. The federal gov’t could put up money along with state money to do it, if we had money. I think it is rediculous that there is only 1 train that runs between chicago and Cincinnati, and it leaves at 3AM. It only costs $41, if they could get a decent rail system traveling would be so much cheaper and easier.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 12, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i watched this thing on TLC the other day about trains
they said it would take the TGV 15 hours to get from NYC to LA. that’s all. why can’t we run high speed trains from cleveland to cincy and a few slower trains in between.
you know, i thought of starting a non-profit having something to do with sports fans solving problems, like environmental problems, traffic, urban renewal – it seems like sports are the only thing to get mainstream america’s attention. it might work. esp under the new admin.
by Daedalus on Nov 12, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well apparently i'm not the only one thinking about trains in ohio.
http://www.snponline.com/articles/2008/11/09/multiple_papers/news/allcolrail_20081107_0607pm_1.txt
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 12, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's awesome
take the money they want to give to GM and invest it in mass transit, that’s what i think.
by Daedalus on Nov 12, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the auto industry is dying in america
im fucking tired of this corporate welfare. people bitch and complain about “welfare queens”, but we subsidise the hell out of the “big three”, and the airlines. Fucking socialism for the rich.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 12, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
As long as the Big Three (and I don’t mean the trio currently stomping NBA competition in Boston) remain artificially propped up, there will be no major advances in the American auto industry. Aside from the fact that our incoming “mandated” (read: blank check for Nancy Pelosi) government will flush billions of dollars down Detroit’s collective toilet, thereby further crippling America’s economy, the Big Three’s continued presence will prohibit start-ups from claiming any portion of the market share. If they’re allowed to fail, there is no question that entrepreneurs will fill the void with more innovative products and techniques for building those products. Right now, there’s just too big a hurdle for anyone to invest in such an opportunity. Does anyone really think that if GM, Ford, and Chrysler (they still make cars?) go down, no one will rise up to start building new horseless buggies?
Plus, the UAW pretty much handcuffs the industry.
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by ben nevis on Nov 13, 2008 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
allowing the Big Three to fail really isnt an option. sure, someone else would eventually rise up and start building better cars, but that would take years. the 3 million jobs lost would be felt immediately. we’re talking blood in the streets kinda stuff.
its not all doom and gloom though. this situation isnt totally unprecedented, and by no means intractable. yes, the unions are inflexible, but i trust that when staring down the barrel of a gun, rationality and reason will prevail. does the govt have to step in and help out? maybe. maybe not. but regardless of what the govt does, its the corporations themselves that have to make the changes. some jobs will be cut and the union will have to sacrifice, but in the end it will work out. it has to.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 13, 2008 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is now known as the Big Two and their sickly brother with cancer
But, I think this can cure cancer.
by jacob brumfield on Nov 13, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i always wanted a viper
and by always i mean for a few months after they introduced it.
now i am more concerned about fuel efficiency. my 2002 chevy cavalier with 87,000 miles and a muffler held up by a coat hanger gets 32 miles to the gallon.
by Daedalus on Nov 13, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One problem is that
there isn’t an American company making trains, which is stupid. We have to buy our light rail and Amtrak cars from Canadian, European and Japanese companies while American car companies refuse to build anything but SUVs and enormous trucks.
Hopefully we will have a good infrastructure investment stimulus package, though, and we won’t blow it all on interstates. If we sunk $2 billion each into the top 50 projects proposed by American cities, we’d create all sorts of jobs and lay a lasting framework of real transit…
Which is why it’s probably not going to happen.
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by Gray on Nov 12, 2008 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re:American car companies refuse to build anything but SUVs and enormous trucks.
which is why we should let them sink, or figure it out. I drive a 2005 Hyuandia Elantra. It is well designed, there is plenty of leg room, even in the back seat, the trunk is spacious, it is mechanically sound, and it has a 50K bumper to bumper warenty, and a 100K drivetrain warrenty, and it was $14K out the door.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 12, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
someone who is worried about a job might want to start advocating for GM to get with the times. what good are unions if they won’t do anything to change the situation? why isn’t UAW pushing alternative energy cars, etc?
by Daedalus on Nov 12, 2008 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and i forgot to see it gets 30-35 MPG.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 12, 2008 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
forgot to see?
and you call 16-17 year olds dangerous drivers?
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Nov 13, 2008 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UAW and Michigan lawmakers pushed hard
against CAFE increases, which was stupid, stupid, stupid.
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by Gray on Nov 12, 2008 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good point justin
but if american auto makers cease to exist, then so does production in the US from Honda, Toyota, and the like. The companies that supply their axles and many other parts would also be out of business.
Allowing the US Auto Industry to die would be catstrophic to the economy.
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by chandrathan on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
screw you
Daedalus missed one….
but for the record i actually support helping out the auto industry…
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Nov 13, 2008 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re: importing rail cars
the state has lost a lot of jobs from the closings of DHL, Hoover, Delphi, etc, so why not put people to work building passenger cars? keep the whole operation in-house, right? or does this make too much sense?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 13, 2008 8:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hoover closed?
That sucks.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Nov 13, 2008 8:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, ACF in Huntington is a large
producer of rail cars, but they carry coal, freight and such. Undoubtedly, the plant could be fitted to make passenger cars, as well.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Nov 13, 2008 8:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NC has actually had a lot of success
with subsidizing passenger rail lines in the state. By subsidizing the line, they keep ticket prices reasonable, and it’s caught on to the point where they’re adding a third daily run each way as soon as they get another train in service.
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by Gray on Nov 12, 2008 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Used to bike down to the ballpark/stadium
from College Hill everyday in during the summer when I was slinging beer for the Reds.
But your’e right, there is no good way to get there without a car(door across your front side).
What is up with the Clifton/downtown trolley plan these days? And the millcreek bike trail?
Oh, and they need more bike racks on the Metros. Last time I was home, I had to wait an hour for the next bus cause there were already two bikes on the bus that arrived. This is a good problem, but it needs to be dealt with as bike culture grows in Cincy.
We definitely need to focus a lot on that other r, reduce, but recycling and reusing is a good start for the reds.
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on Nov 13, 2008 6:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and if you haven't hear about
this latest prank by the “Yes Men,” it is definitely worth checking out.
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on Nov 13, 2008 7:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Folks in Huntington frequently took the train
to Crosley Field. It was quite popular.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Nov 13, 2008 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Taking a train to the ballpark is only a good idea
if you want Daryl Thompson to be consistently lost and late for his starts.
by Brendanukkah on Nov 13, 2008 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall goes green, er, greener, I guess.
HUNTINGTON — Marshall University students voted this week to pass a Green Fee.
The issue was included on the ballot for Homecoming King and Queen.
Students will now have an extra $5 per semester tacked onto their tuition to help make the campus more environmentally-friendly.
The fee will also fund a sustainability officer and other green initiatives.
The Student Government Association says the Green Fee passed by 69% of the vote.
The Sierra Student Coalition, a grassroots effort to help make the campus green, played a big role in promoting the Green Fee.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Nov 13, 2008 12:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what's wrong with the other 31% who voted no?
by Daedalus on Nov 13, 2008 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
screw them
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Nov 13, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you really feel?
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Nov 13, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AHH...
i got you to laugh about it!
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Nov 13, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, screw you
(you don’t think i’ve been laughing the whole time?)
by Daedalus on Nov 13, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And yet nobody's pointed out that it was 69%?
Heh heh heh.
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by Gray on Nov 13, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
as a student i would have voted it down
I pay $10,185 a quarter for tuition at Ohio Northern. Plus $70 a quarter for technology fees. If I take classes at other universities over the summer, I have to pay $26 per credit hour so the registrar can audit the classes I took. I would vote it down on principal. I know it is only $5 but, I think that ONU should be able to find $5 in every students tuition that can be directed towards greening the University.
The best analogy I heard about Universities is giving Universities more money is like giving an alcoholic a drink. It solves the temporary problem of the University wanting more money, but it does not fix the long term problem.
"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word."-Andy Jack
by justin007000 on Nov 13, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i see your point
and agree that universities should do it anyway. but if it is easier to pay $5 than to fight the behemoths that universities have become, the responsible thing to do is to pay it and then fight for more.
by Daedalus on Nov 13, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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