rockies-reds talking trade

by RaysOfHope on Nov 11, 2008 2:58 PM EST Comment 104 comments

Rockies Talking Trade With Reds By Tim Dierkes [November 11 at 1:17pm CST]

Ken Rosenthal says the Rockies aren't done dealing - they're talking trade with the Reds and other clubs. The Reds like Willy Taveras, Yorvit Torrealba, and Garrett Atkins, with a "definite interest" in Taveras.

Meanwhile the Indians like newly acquired Huston Street and the Nationals are one club eyeing Carlos Gonzalez. Rosenthal says the Rockies figure to hang on to Greg Smith.

It seems we can't yet judge the Holliday trade for the Rockies. It did seem odd that they would acquire a closer and a young center fielder, two positions at which they already had solid options.

so what do you guys think about this possible trade? i am pretty sure it would be a deal involving homer bailey, i am hopeing that this deal gets done some time soon because it will definetly help out the reds to be more competitive next year

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If we give COL Homer Bailey for any one of those three

I’ma be MIGHTY pissed.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 11, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

agreed

Homer might be a little immature and tad disinterested in baseball, but the kid has a thunderbolt for an arm.

It would be selling at the depth of his value. Pass. Put him in the pen along with Roenicke and Burton.

by obc2 on Nov 11, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I like how other teams like the good players

I’d seriously rather see Kenny Lofton in CF rather than Willy Taveras.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

C Trent has some really good insight

Taveras: Coors Field .233 avg, .303 OBP (which is way low for a leadoff guy) and .265 and .312 on the road. In 91 games as a lead-off guy last year, he hit .202 with a .264 OBP — didn’t they just have Corey Patterson? Slugging? The guy had just 18 extra base hits in 538 plate appearances. Really, wouldn’t you think he’d leg out a couple of more doubles? That said, he has a .331 career OBP, which would be a wet dream for Patterson. Taveras had a career-high 68 stolen bases, despite the career-low OBP.

Torrealba: His AVG/OBP/SLG line — home .252/.298/.450. away .240/.289/.344. And he lost his job last year to Chris Iannetta. He’s a backup at best.

Atkins: Talk about a Coors Field bump… in 2008 his splits are .342/.380/.523 at home and .233/.278/.383 away. And if you think it’s just a bad year, .337/.394/.527 career at home and .260/.328/.424 away. Atkins also had a +/- of ~~11 according to John Dewan at third base in 94 games. Encarnacion had the worst +/~~ among third basemen at -21 in 143 games.

We’d might as well resign Corey. Atleast he got 29 extra base hits.

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by MixFMKyle on Nov 11, 2008 3:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

if Atkins can play LF

and not look like the ass-douche his road numbers say he is, then im ok to get him if the price is nothing. the other two arent worth picking off the waiver wire, much less trade for. fuck.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 11, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

what do you guys think would get this deal done?

i dont want to really trade homer bailey, but i bet that is what the fire sale rockies will be asking for

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by RaysOfHope on Nov 11, 2008 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I hope the price isn't more than a Chris Dickerson type

I would use Homer to pry loose one of the catchers from Texas.

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by MixFMKyle on Nov 11, 2008 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

they wont want dickerson, since they just got gonzalez and folwer will probably be ready next year

everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds

by RaysOfHope on Nov 11, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The article said the Nats are working on getting

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by MixFMKyle on Nov 11, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

they would be stupid to trade him to the nats

is it possible that bowden has finally figured out what he is doing?

everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds

by RaysOfHope on Nov 11, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm hoping their GM is thinking like the commentors at Purple Row

I wouldn’t expect a major name, but perhaps a couple of surprising under the radar young arms like Ramon A. Ramirez or Bill Bray to come back. If it’s Atkins, then you would look for a more marquee name like Cueto or Homer Bailey to be included.

They want to upgrade on Encarnacion pretty desperately, I think the fit is a little better than you’re seeing. I forgot to mention that they might be trying to sell high on Jerry Hairston Jr, who had a career year last season at 32. He’d actually make some sense straight up for Torrealba or as part of a package, but I’d rather give them more to try and pry away Brandon Phillips.

Those were both by RoxGirl, one of the admins at Purple Row. I don’t mind commentors asking for this, because they don’t really know our system, and I sure as hell don’t know the Rockies. But if we were balking at giving up Cueto for Holliday, we sure as shit aren’t trading him for Atkins. Bill Bray is nearly untouchable in my mind (certainly when we’re discussing the likes of Taveras and Torrealba). And of course Hairston is a free agent, so we’d have to sign him, then trade him, which is all kinds of silly.

Is there anything the Rockies have that would make you want to trade BP? Troy Tulowitzki?

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And now they're throwing Aaron Harang's name around

I’m sort of feeling like the sort of homely, desperate girl right before prom. “Dude, slip her a Taveras and she’ll totally give up her Cueto!” “Awesome, brah!”

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

Joke

Atkins for Cueto or Bailey? Riiiiiiight. Bray isnt going anywhere either. BP? FTH, sis.

Who did the Reds trade for Dante Bichette?

by obc2 on Nov 11, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Stan Belinda and Jeffrey Hammonds

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

with that in mind

i’d support a Reds offer of Mike Lincoln and Ryan Freel for Atkins.

by obc2 on Nov 11, 2008 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rocky Mountain High

What is she smoking?

I am underwhelmed at this rumored trade.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 11, 2008 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you and your never providing of links

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Apologies

Here ya go.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

thanks, i found it all by myself, though

but i had to ~~gasp!~~ open another tab

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

this is one of the lesser informed posts

the rox one, i mean. it gets a bit ridiculous.

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Do we need another all Speed not much power guy?

We have Hopper and Freel, plus Dickerson with speed. Not to mention Phillips, as well as the bags Votto and Bruce will swipe.

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by MixFMKyle on Nov 11, 2008 3:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

OBP

Focus on OBP Bobby C.

by obc2 on Nov 11, 2008 3:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Justin's numbers on each

Taveras   Pos   RAR  Field TtlVal
2005       CF   4.7   -3.0   5.2
2006       CF   4.2   16.9  24.1
2007       CF  12.6   -3.9  10.7
2008       CF  -1.6    2.2   3.3

Torrealba Pos   RAR  Field TtlVal
2005        C  -3.2    8.0   8.5
2006        C  -1.8    5.6   7.5
2007        C  -4.4    1.3   3.4
2008        C  -5.0   -0.6  -1.5

Atkins    Pos   RAR  Field TtlVal
2005       3B   7.8   25.7  34.3
2006       3B  47.2   -0.6  47.6
2007       3B  28.0  -20.4   8.3
2008       3B  11.2   -8.5   0.0

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

FTH is up with Atkins' fielding numbers?

25.7, -0.6, -20.4, -8.5? Was there a super-small sample size in 2005 or something?

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by Gray on Nov 11, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He made a helluva lot of plays out of the zone that year

In fact, a lot of 3B did that year, which leads me to believe that Baseball Info Solutions was doing something different in 2005 that they aren’t doing now. I’ve just run Justin’s numbers straight, based on the calculations he developed in 2007, but that may not be totally accurate for 2005. I’ll email him and see if he’s got any ideas as to what’s going on. I think OOZ might be overvalued that year though.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

looking at it more closely

there is something wrong there. There are 28 3B that were “worth” 10 runs or more defensively, including EdE who only played 478 innings that year. Disregard the numbers from 2005 at this point and I’ll stop posting them until I can get it fixed.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll just disregard everything you say

until you get that fixed.

This place is like a sexy preschool.

by Gray on Nov 11, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's probably for the best

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hey, its worked for me for 2+ years!!!

just a testimonial…

by obc2 on Nov 11, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Your assumptions are correct

BIS made a change to how they layed out some of the zones after that season.

www.redsminorleagues.com

by dougdirt on Nov 11, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"It seems we can't yet judge the Holliday trade for the Rockies."

Sure you can. Even if they’re going to flip the guys they received for Holliday, they could’ve gotten better guys to flip. They probably could do just as well next July – may as well wait till then in case the Rox resurrect their ’07 season.

by ken on Nov 11, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

that was mlbtraderumors that said that not me

everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds

by RaysOfHope on Nov 11, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Fielding Bible Rankings at 3B for the last 3 seasons

From Dunn and Dunner:

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Wow!

Let’s get Garrett Atkins! That would be a whole nine-run improvement!

Then we could absorb the offensive hit from replacing Corey Patterson with Willy Taveras.

That way, we could actually tread water.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Nov 11, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

rec'd

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

holy crap that is horrible

we would have the 2 worst defensive 3rd baseman in the league, where is jorge cantu on that list?

everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds

by RaysOfHope on Nov 11, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cantu's really only played 3B in 2008

in 2006 and 2007, he played on the other side of the infield

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey slyde

Whats the ranking for a large boulder placed at 3b? -60?

by obc2 on Nov 11, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you mean a rockie?

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Nov 11, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs

boooooooooo

(throws tomato)

Who am I kidding, I giggled a little. Well done.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 11, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Part of me wants to say

that I don´t need your reassurance that I occasionally say funny things here.

But truth be told, I am a more than a little bit shaken about how quickly things spiraled out of control the last few days, and about some of the comments that have been made since. I have definitely been thinking a lot about what happened and ways on my part to make sure it doesn´t happen again without comprising my values or feeling silenced.

This is all to say, thanks for the support.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Nov 11, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

welcome to my club

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, apparently I joined a couple of days ago.

…hat trick?

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Nov 11, 2008 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what the hell

I rec’d it too.

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Dusty's going to be thrilled if we get Taveras.

Honestly, he can’t be as bad as Corey… right? Right…?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Nov 11, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

He might steal some more bases

But fewer home runs. And Dusty would probably keep him at leadoff for the entire year instead of only half the year. I don’t know where shortstop went, but he can give Taveras a big ol’ “DO NOT WANT!” from me.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if this goes down

we might as well hire Chuck Carr or Gary Pettis as Wily’s personal coach.

by obc2 on Nov 11, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm here for ya

I even went with the classic:

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 11, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

that dog

he doesn’t like broccoli! That’s why it’s funny!

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 11, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

screw you

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 11, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

oh look

somebody rec’d that post…

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 11, 2008 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

damn, you beat me too it.

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

too it, ha!

oops

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe it's the happy hour

but i found that LOL funny this time.

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, yes he can.

Or at least close.

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

BB-Ref

Lists his salary for last season as $400k or thereabouts. Is he due for a raise, to say $3 million?

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That was 2007

he made $4.3875M last season. He’s in his 2nd arb year this year

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh, shit

lost a year there. Wow. Then the proposed deal looks even more absurd. Really, remember when you said to yourself “There’s no way they’ll pick Dusty” or “No way they’ll sign Patterson and Hairston” but really you knew they would. Taveras is going to be a Red and there’s nothing a rational person can do about it……Go Pirates?

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, I'm a dumbass

I thought you were talking about Atkins for some reason. Taveras made $1.975M last year.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Nov 11, 2008 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I cant wait for Brantely to crap his pants

every time Taveras has a bunt single to lead off.

Do I remember correctly that he was hurt for a lot of or most of the year last year?

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by xjjeep90 on Nov 11, 2008 4:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

He craps them anyway

there ain’t many toilets where he’s from.

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No accompanying photo of the red neck toilet?

That pic’s always worth another look

by bengalred on Nov 11, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, if I must

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Woo-hoo!

by bengalred on Nov 11, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If you're that faux excited

Here’s a little bonus.

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bumper Dumper FTW

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 11, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

did you just name that or are you familiar with the product?

if you just named it, then kudos on your quick wit

if you already knew what it was, then i pray for your soul

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 11, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Get on your knees, boy

I had heard of those a while back, excellent for the hunter in all of us.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Nov 11, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's what she said...

Indeed.

This place is like a sexy preschool.

by Gray on Nov 11, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If we got Atkins or Torrealba, I'd be absolutely pissed.

But strangely enough, I wouldn’t mind Taveras that much, as long as we don’t give up too much (Freel? Please?). Of course I know I’d start to hate it after he’s batting leadoff after a sub-.300 OBP through April, but the guy is capable of stealing bases. I guess it’s the feeling of helplessness with Dusty as the manager. If Dusty’s going to play Dustyball no matter who he has on his team, we might as well surround him with guys who can run and play decent D. At the very least, he’d be what most idiot Reds fans want in CF, and it’ll be fun to watch their reaction as he fails miserably.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Nov 11, 2008 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

what if we got torrealba for, say, janish?

Yes We Did!

by Daedalus on Nov 11, 2008 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't mind giving up Bako

but what use would we have for Torrealba? He’s basically Paul Bako, and knowing Dusty, he’d probably end up starting every day over Hanigan. No thanks.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Nov 11, 2008 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

*I don't mind giving up Janish

cough

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Nov 11, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we're getting all worked up over nothing...

I don’t really believe this trade will go through…

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 11, 2008 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You're being entirely too optimistic...

Where’s BubbaFan when we need her to lend some pessimism?

This place is like a sexy preschool.

by Gray on Nov 11, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's me

entirely too optimistic!

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 11, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ick

No way, no how. Torrealba would be a good guy to have around as a backup if (a) he didn’t make $43.5M and (b) he had any actual talent. Tavares? No. Adkins? We already have EdE who’s the same player, only younger and cheaper.

Mr O’Dowd? You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Nov 11, 2008 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

ugh....

ugh

UGH!

by DisplacedFan on Nov 11, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

whatever happened to the cumn jokes?

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Nov 11, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think (pray) that you're talking about cumb jokes

But your post got me thinking that Rob Zombie should write a cookbook called “More Cumin Than Cumin.” Then we should sign him to play centerfield.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

remember that time rob zombie made that mtv commercial

where he was on the skateboard, and jumped something that wasn’t very tall?

that was awesome

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Nov 11, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Remember when

he animated that part of Beavis and Butthead Do America? What a great movie!

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Remember when you said

“the love you take is equal to the love you make?”

Is that really true?

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by xjjeep90 on Nov 11, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes Chris.

In my experience, it is. I find that the more you give, the more you get.

“Did you see Terminator? That was a pretty awesome flick.”

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yes cumb,

that one really blew up in my face.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Nov 11, 2008 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs

Now that

is funny. Rec’d.

by Pops Daniels on Nov 11, 2008 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

heh, worth a giggle

and also, it’d be a damn shame if you get frustrating posting here. I’m way too much of a coward to argue over anything greater than baseball, but I appreciate that its usually done civilly here. I couldn’t imagine the arguments that happen here happening in Real Life. Take this from someone who just got back from a class where a kid posited “bombing mosques will remove extremist clerics, thus ending terrorism.”

When I told him that firebombing churches wouldn’t exactly make anyone feel warm and fuzzy, he said “but Islam isn’t a REAL religion.”

So at least there’s none of that bullshit. I really dig your point of view…I don’t want to see it go.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Nov 11, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Minor League transactions

According to Baseball America:

Cincinnati Reds
Signed: C Ben Davis (Camden (Atlantic)), 2B Luis Bolivar
Released: RHP Hugo Calderon, RHP Tyler Rhoden, C Frank Meade, 1B Eli Rimes, 3B Brett Bartles, OF Anthony Gressick
Removed from 40-man roster: LHP Bobby Livingston

Davis, the second overall pick in 1995, latched on with Camden after the Orioles released him in June. The switch-hitting catcher, who will be 32 next season, has logged 486 games in the big leagues and 686 more in the minors, where he’s a career .256/.316/.404 hitter.

Bobby Livingston has been playing long enough to be a minor league free agent, so I believe that the Reds’ removing him from the roster means he can sign anywhere he wants. Though perhaps the Reds are hoping he’ll choose to stick around.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 11, 2008 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

have the signees been assigned to any specific level yet?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Nov 11, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I remember when Ben Davis had an ESPN article about him being the next big thing.

Oh how times change. I wonder if he still has that article over his bed in his parents’ house or anything?

Also, BubbaFan. Do not underestimate my desperation in not-going-straight-to-law-school. If you know anyone who needs just-graduated students, or any place that’ll send me anywhere from Turkey to India, I am very, very, interested. If you dropped me a line at AJKohn@umd.edu, I would really appreciate talking to you. I need an insider…everyone else just grumbles “you should’ve gone into engineering.”

As a bribe, I give you this article on the great mystery about how Obama just hired a guy who oversaw the doubling of the Lithuanian suicide rate as his chief economic advisor. Sorry, cheshirecat.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Nov 11, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He ain't hired yet

and if he is… well fuck. I’m moving to England in a few months. Maybe I’ll go fiancee hunting and disappear into Europe if shit hits the fan under Barack. That being said, I do pride myself in being optimistic, so I really wouldn’t get too desperate over not going immediately to law school. You are obviously quite smart. Get some low paying job doing translating work or working outta DC fpr a couple years to bank some money for law school.

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Nov 12, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't do law school for lack of better options

It’s three years of time and money that can be better spent finding out what it is you want to do. Don’t enroll unless you’re fairly sure you want to be a lawyer or unless you get into a brass ring school. Too many people fall into law school because they weren’t sure what else to do, which is never a good way to decide your career.

There are and always will be plenty of great jobs for lawyers, but I see the profession thinning out going forward. The recession should accelerate two trends which will curb growth in the profession – outsourcing and billing changes. There’s already a movement to outsource routine work often done by junior associates to India (which makes sense; you don’t need a J.D. for most of it). As for revenues, there’s a growing chorus against the billable hour, which helped fuel the explosion of big firms in the 70s and 80s. Even if the billable hour remains, you’re not going to see the yearly rate rises that the profession has become accustomed to.

by ken on Nov 12, 2008 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"You don’t need a J.D. for most of it."

You hear that Arney? We (mostly) don’t need you anyway.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Nov 12, 2008 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Taveras seems right up Dustbrian's alley

Early Merry Xmas Red’s fans!!!!

As Walter Claus delivers the goods ( I hope not)

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Sir Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 11, 2008 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I have that t-shirt

What a picture of domestic tranquility... Hemlock on the hearth and my wife feeding the piranha.

by Man Mountain on Nov 11, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Fratteberg!

by Brendanukkah on Nov 11, 2008 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Much better news from the Rockie front

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7:37pm: Tracy Ringolsby of the Rocky Mountain News says the Reds have definite interest in Atkins, but not Torrealba or Taveras. The Reds like the idea of adding Atkins’ righthanded bat. They don’t like Torrealba’s price and Taveras’ inability to get on base. Ringolsby says the Phillies, Angels, and Twins are also after Atkins.

by iamwallaman on Nov 11, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

So what happens to EdE? Move him to left?

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by xjjeep90 on Nov 11, 2008 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It would be worth trying. Although he may throw the ball from left field into the 1st base stand a few times.

Might take a little pressure off the guy, if he doesn’t have to ‘think’ to much…you just hang out in LF (land of the fishermen) and then go jack a couple every week.

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by Madville on Nov 11, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs