Time to start drinking: There's a game on soon!

by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 7:40 PM EDT Comment 110 comments

Yeah, I know, I find it hard to care about this, but the Dodgers and Phillies are playing. Does anybody have any good reason why I should support one team or another?

You could read the crappy yahoo game preview here. I bet it's thrilling. I don't really know, since I haven't actually read it myself...

Or we could just talk about politics or the economy or the Office or something. And what's everybody drinking? I'm avoiding the beer so far since I'm actually attempting to get some work done, but don't let me keep you from drinking...

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I just popped open a Yeungling

I don’t usually drink alone, but the impending demise of the universe has me mellowing out more.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I checked the mail tonight

and received my deferred comp statement. Yikes and away I took a huge hit this time. Good thing it is only paper money at this point in life

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my $250 investment in a Roth IRA

three or four years ago is now worth less than $250. Nice!

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just got my IRA statement today

I refuse to open it.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What did you have it invested in?

And, uhhh, don’t open it.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I made 40% last month

Had it in the right stock.

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have your IRA invested in one stock?

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did for 8 magnificent days

40%

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope it wasn't GM

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

Fifth Third

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

down under ten bucks again

time for round three tomorrow if it doesnt rebound. i was out of the office today and missed the 20% dip in one day. dammit.

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ouch

Financials got hammered today, because the ban on short-selling was lifted.

Tomorrow could be interesting, with the three-day weekend coming up. People are going to be afraid to hold anything, for fear that some momentous news will break over the weekend, leaving them with toxic waste on their hands.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Incidentally...

short selling bans don’t actually have any effect beyond the very short term. Well, and the stupid psychological effect.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think they do

Yes, there are ways you can get around it. But changing the rules in mid-game like that is one of the reasons people are so spooked. People who got caught with their shorts down lost their shirts. Now they’re afraid to stay in the market, for fear the rules will change again without warning.

I know someone who manages a hedge fund that specializes in shorts, and he will probably have to close it.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know it feels like they should...

but the empirical evidence is not there, and even suggests that allowing short selling may be a net positive. See e.g. this working paper.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's not what I'm talking about

The problem is changing the rules in mid-game that way. It screwed a lot of people including a lot of people who had nothing to do with the collapse of Lehman or AIG.

I think there will be long-term effects. Nobody wants to play a game when the biggest kid can change the rules whenever he wants.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, reading back...

I think I misunderstood what you wrote. I now think you were saying that the bans were bad, but impactful in the very short term. That I can agree with.

Academic economists would almost uniformly argue that short-selling bans are a bad idea. I don’t know if policymakers have gotten that point yet, though. Hopefully they’ll get it after this time.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I watch the market every day

I feel like short term bans are effective. Those academic economists need to get out of their parents’ basement. There’s more to the market than just numbers, you know.

by Red Menace on Oct 9, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's fairly well diversified

but that doesn’t matter much these days. I’m trying to remind myself that I have 30+ years to retirement and just keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn’t go empty first.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

when you aint got nothin'

you got nothin’ to lose. thats my investment strategy!

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Freedom's just another word for

sleeping on the street.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good enough for me

and my Bobby McGee.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i have a very well furnished apartment

and a pretty impressive stock of beer, if you hadnt heard.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 9, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I logged into the 401k today for the first time this month

Bad Idea.

by ken on Oct 9, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm thanking me lucky stars for having put off starting the 529 for my kid's educations

I wasn’t even trying to time the market or anything. I was just lazy. Whoever said that being lazy doesn’t pay can eat it!

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not laziness, it's market timing

I’m waiting for the crop report announcement later this year before building my commodities portfolio.

(I got an inside tip about the frozen OJ market)

by ken on Oct 9, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

convicted

not frozen.

they only do that to Han Solo.

by bbjones on Oct 10, 2008 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You need to adjust your 80's movie reference antennae

by Red Menace on Oct 10, 2008 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got mine today too

It was okay.

Of course, the end of the quarter is Sept. 30, so the statement was issued before the market freefall started.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am considering drinking, as well...

and thinking I need to find a way to delay my grad school exit. And avoiding working on my dissertation is the best way to do that, right?

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh, and thanks for starting a thread

I didn’t feel like doing it tonight. I’m gonna try to bust out something fresh tomorrow though. Or not. Depends on if I get out of bed.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's nice of your mom

to let you have a beer fridge in the basement.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That stupid woman at Fox

needs to stop saying “J-Roll.”

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Budweiser American Ale needs a bottle opener!

holy moses. im giddy.

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

...whoa

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Oct 9, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

tastes like Moerlien

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

which one?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Oct 9, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

orginal flavor

with a little bit of Schlitz aftertaste.

me no likey much.

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I think it's the aftertaste that's bothering me.

It would be okay if it wasn’t for that. Just okay though, still nothing special.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Oct 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't like American Lager?

terrorist.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Oct 9, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was going to text you later to see if you'd tried it yet, and get a review

now i won’t do that

What's the ratio of Stanley Nickels to Schrute Bucks?

by chandrathan on Oct 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sip

Pause

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Budweiser American ale here.

I got a 6-er just to try it… meh.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Oct 9, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

my wife got me a case of "beers around the world"

for our anniversary. i plan on sailing off to the shores of Vietnam for a brew tonight. i wonder how they say “cheers” there. i bet John McCain knows. /political threadjack

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

John McCain spent some time in Vietnam?

I’ve never heard this story.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

vietnam beer rankings

http://www.thebackpacker.net/worldbeers/vietnam/index.htm

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Singapore makes a damn good beer.....

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 9, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i had some of that in England

i knew an english/indian chick who drank it all the time. there is something about indian chicks with english accents drinking “tiger beer” that really balances my chi.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tigrmetrics?

by ken on Oct 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vietnam?

And here I thought it was WWII.

Or maybe WWI…

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't it the Hundred Years War?

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, silly

He’s not that old.

Maybe the Civil War. Did he fight for the Union or the Confederates?

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he was for the Confederacy

before he was against it

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tried to make a case for Philly

in the NLDS thread:

Philly, on the other hand, happily embraced our Pete Rose sloppy seconds and values GRIT like no other market outside of the Queen City.

Go Phills!

by ken on Oct 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pete would tell the Dodgers to suck it...

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Manny stood and watched that one...

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This date in Reds History

The Reds close out the White Sox in the 1919 World Series.

Champs!

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by xjjeep90 on Oct 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It tastes just as sweet 89 years later!

The war is over and prosperity lies ahead of us! Woohoo!

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

...and it was a clear victory by the Reds

the White Sox just didn’t play well for some reason.

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by xjjeep90 on Oct 9, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shoeless Joe and John Cusack hit pretty well

by ken on Oct 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The war is over ???

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by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 9, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah, yes...

my generation’s “Dukakis in a tank”. Mixed with a good portion of “Yeltsin dancing drunk days after heart surgery”

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Oct 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know if that's the Dukakis in a tank moment

considering he won. Kerry windsurfing might be more apt. And they were both done by Lee Atwater, right?

by Red Menace on Oct 9, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Corona light

cleansing the mouth of all things Bud Am Ale.

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And all things taste-related.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's tastist!

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's wrong with being tasty?

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Joe Sixpack doesn't worry about taste

Joe Sixpack buys the cheapest beer he can find that will get him drunk. You obviously don’t relate to Joe Sixpack like the rest of us.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Oct 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or hockey Moms

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 9, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Official The Office Thread heeyah

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

crickets

cancel this post!!!

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm watching it

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Oct 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh come on

who can blog while watching the Office? thats just crazy!

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 9, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meredith is out of the basement

She might just fly up the power rankings after that performance.

And I’m rocking Grolsh, the kind with the fun bottles. 10 minutes until Sunny…

by Red Menace on Oct 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Looking foward to this SNL special after The Office

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by xjjeep90 on Oct 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I forgot about the office. Ooops.

What are they calling the SNL special, since it’s not a weekend?

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think they are just going to do a half hour long "Weekend Update"

to make fun of the presidential stuff.

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by xjjeep90 on Oct 9, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But...it's Thursday.

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by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good enough reason to start the weekend if you ask me....

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

spit take

"how do you tell someone you care about deeply that….I told you so?

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bill Murray lamenting his Cubs fandom

the Cubs will never win! now thats something McCain and Obama can agree on!

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

pticher gets a hit

But the Phillies still can’t score.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bad thing about making the playoffs and then losing

everything that went wrong is recounted or shown

by ol Pete on Oct 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you don't say

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

/Luis Gonzalez bloop over a drawn-in Jeter

by Brendanukkah on Oct 9, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yer cruel

Though even worse was the collision in center right between Bubba and Sheff. Freakin’ Olbermann even named Bubba “worst person in the world” because of that. It wasn’t even his fault, fer crissakes. Sheff ran into him.

And it’s not like that was the only reason they lost that game. There was the botched hit and run (thanks, Bernie), Cano being called for running outside the line (thanks, Joe West), A-Rod killing a ninth inning rally with a clutch GIDP (boo!), etc.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Olbermann was a terrible sports reporter..

and an even worse political reporter. What a tool.

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 9, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

heavy on facts

by ol Pete on Oct 10, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tied game

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Oct 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Phillies ahead

Lowe’s night is done.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 9, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

horrible bunt by Taguchi

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

McCarver saying Dobbs is the best pinch hitter in mlb

he doesn’t know the power of LLM

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by xjjeep90 on Oct 9, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

never heard of dobbs

holy shat, im getting old. is he Del Unser v2.0?

by obc2 on Oct 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Went to a benefit show for survivors of domestic abuse

So I drank some domestic beer. A Yuengling and a Pabst. Couldn’t find my Brett Myers jersey though.

Last night I drank a Kona Longboard. Really tasty beer, and even better, it’s the beer of the month at the local barbecue place. Niiiiice.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 9, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Si you guys think you've got it bad...shit

Went to O’Bryons had 4 Coors light beers
Had some chow
Went to the Mt. Lookout Observatory and checked out Jupiter and its 4 moons
Went to the lanes and stunk up the place:
3 – Jack and cokes
2- Bud Ice
1-Miller lite
1- Killians

Watched the Phuckin\gh Phillies win…
to top it off all those years Mrs. M and been working and the retirement funds are going down the drain.
Fuck W – Fuck Sgt. McCain
Fuck Pat Paulsen and Bereni (the Fed guy)
Send Sarah back to Wasila

Who a shit storm is on the way.

Ibn Khaldoun and Hulrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Oct 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pat the Bat hit another postseason homer

Does this make anyone a little more excited to make a run at Burrell in the offseason?

by Brendanukkah on Oct 9, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he'll go into month long slumps

The Lowe pitch wasn’t great, but not bad. The Suppan pitch was awful. Damn you Sveum.

by ol Pete on Oct 10, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i have a question

am i the only one who is worried that Obama will be assinated?

With the apparent anger by people about his more than likely Presidency. I have read quotes of people saying things with racist underpins . I feel like I was sad and angry when Bush won, but never crazy.

No matter how effective of a President he is, if he is assinated all fucking hell will break lose in this country, with this on top of a financial Crisis, and 9/11 is still in the back of our minds somewhere.

"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"

by justin007000 on Oct 10, 2008 2:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not the only one

boobs’ mom would be the first suspect.

by Red Menace on Oct 10, 2008 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

John Kennedy was assanited in my freshman year in high school and

I still vividly remember kids yelling in the halls things like: We’re saved from the Pope and the Papist asshole got what he deserved. Back then in small towns all across the country a great deal of people were terrified that Kennedy was an agent of the Roman Catholic Church and somehow his Presidency was controlled by the Pope. Fast Forward 45 years. There are, I am dead certain, in small (and big) towns across the US a great deal of people who are certain that Obama is a Muslim Jiihadist – Radical Nigger Socialist, who will corrupt the values of the country and is the puppet of Islam/Black Power/ the Socialist left etc.Yes, I worry that he’ll be assassinated..but I also believe that if he wins the presidency, (I think he will) he does have the intellect, the depth of character and organizational ability to lead the country through the shitstorm that is just now starting to hit us …however, the job is more than daunting – times of extreme difficulty require and create men and women of exceptional leadership. I believe that Obama has the skill and the will to be an exceptional leader. Right now Leadership is paramount.
Never under estimate the power of Fear.

Ibn Khaldoun and Hulrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Oct 10, 2008 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Naw,

If HIllary was his running mate you could have put money on an assasination attempt.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Oct 10, 2008 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or an assination. Either or.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Oct 10, 2008 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if Hilary was Obama's Veep

I could think of a few million conservatives who would gladly take a bullet for the Mighty O

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Oct 10, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obama is more liberal than Hillary

Hillary is pretty moderate actually. The Clintons are big in the DLC.

"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"

by justin007000 on Oct 10, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a real concern of mine for John McCain if he were to be elected -

I believe there are Palinites out there who are highly disturbed people. These are the kind of people who bomb abortion clinics and get their followers to drink cool aid. I am not kidding when I say that within a 6 – 12 month period McCain could find himself dead (not necessarily by natural causes) and have Sarah the Impaler on the Throne.

Ibn Khaldoun and Hulrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Oct 10, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs