Corey Patterson ain't comin' back
by Slyde on Oct 7, 2008 11:18 AM EDT
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PrintAccording to Jocketty (via Sheldon):
Corey Patterson's return to the Reds in 2009 already seemed unlikely as this season closed. Now, it's official.
Patterson, one of nine Reds headed to free agency, won't be re-signed by the club.
"I don't think he'll be back," Reds general manager Walt Jocketty said. "We'll turn the page."
Sheldon believes they will try to sign Hairston and Weathers. Personally, I'd rather move on from both of those players. The only free agent the Reds have that I'm really interested in is Jeremy Affeldt, and that's only if his price remains reasonably low, which I doubt will happen. Mike Lincoln is also a possibility, but we all know a second term won't likely end as well as the first.
Then again, maybe they should bring Javier Valentin back. Otherwise, who will make the last out to end the game?
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Otherwise, who will make the last out to end the game?
More importantly, with Patterson gone, who will make the first out to begin the game?
by chandrathan on Oct 7, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Huzzah!
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Oct 7, 2008 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
does it bother anyone else
that the symbol of rec’d posts looks like a rotten tomato?
by Red Menace on Oct 7, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I was going to rec 3F3F
But your sentiment hits closer to my true feelings.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
Jerk.
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Oct 7, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
this isn’t one of those times you stand up and cheer, but rather be relieved that the Reds are not run by complete morons….just managed by one.
by jacob brumfield on Oct 7, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
In early voting...
I have Jocko as GM of the year for ’09 for this move alone. Cheers.
Vote Pops in '08. I promise nothing and I'll do it!
by Pops Daniels on Oct 7, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wait a minute...
he didn’t seem so definite. I’m conditioned to expect the worst, so I don’t know if I’m ready to celebrate yet.
This place is like a sexy preschool.
But he quoted Bob Seger!
But your thoughts will soon be wandering, the way they always do.
When your riding sixteen hours and theres nothing much to do
And you dont feel much like riding, you just wish the trip was through.
Say, here I am, on the road again. there I am, up on the stage.
Here I go, playing star again.
There I go, turn the page.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Just take those old records off the shelf
I’ll sit and listen to them by myself. Like I usually do. In my mom’s basement.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Bob Seger?
i think you mean Metallica.
"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No, those lyrics are like this
But your thoughts will soon be wondering-AHH, the way they always do-AHH.
When you’re riding sixteen hours and there’s nothing much to do-AHH
And you don’t feel much like riding-AHH, you just wish the trip was through-HO HO HOAHHH HA!
Say, here I am-AHH, on the road again-AHH. There I am-AHH, up on the staaaaaaaage-AHH.
Here I go HO OH, playing star again-AHH
There I gooooooo, turn the pay-yage-AHH.
by Brendanukkah on Oct 7, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
that just became the at bat music for half the Red Sox roster
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by Man Mountain on Oct 7, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Is that Corey saying goodbye to Dusty?
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I thought those were your mom's that I ruined
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 7, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I thought it was Griffey who ruined White Stockings?
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And somewhere between that awesome Mariner
and the White Stockings being ruined is a pack of Reds getting crushed.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
What's the point when you don't have a Leiter?
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C'mon
It’s clearly Bob Packwood
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They have
The nurse in the photo, Edith Shain, 86, was on Times Square Friday to welcome the sculpture, and on Sunday was joined by her lip-locking sailor friend, 78-year-old Carl Muscarello, for a "kiss-in" to celebrate the anniversary of V-J Day.
Although LIFE magazine has never revealed the identities of the 1945 kissing couple, and many have claimed to be the actual Victory kissers, Edith, who claims to have been identified by photographer Eisenstadt as the nurse, even claims to not know the true identity of the sailor in the photo. More than twenty men have come forward to claim the fame, but Muscarello, a retired NYPD detective, seems to have the strongest case with Edith, having passed a series of "trick questions" about that day in Times Square.
I never would have guessed it was an Italian guy
never.
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be still my heart
"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
BTW
what are the compensation picks for losing a star of his magnitude? (Fire away)
Vote Pops in '08. I promise nothing and I'll do it!
by Pops Daniels on Oct 7, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Tim Tebow could be a solid 49th round compensation pick for us this year.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 7, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
fair compensation?
I suppose the summary execution of the Reds’ three best prospects.
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This may be indicative of how sad my life is right now
But I just screamed “FUCK YES! HE’S GONE!” as loud as I could when I saw this headline.
Politickin' in God's Country
You're absolutely right Menace
First time I’ve felt optimistic in days!
Politickin' in God's Country
Josh Bard was let go by the Padres today.
He had a pretty crappy season this year, but was injured for all but 57 games. He doesn’t have a strong track record of durability, but he played the most games of his career (100 and 118) in 2006 and 2007, where he posted a 145 and 107 OPS+, respectively. He’ll be 31 next season. Some of his closest comparables are former Reds Bo Diaz and Scott Hatteberg.
I don’t know what his defense is like, and I’m not sure what he’d command as a free agent, but I don’t think it would be that much. I feel like it might be worthwhile to bring him in as a Paul Bako-type catcher who brings veteran experience and can platoon with Hanigan. And if it means severing ties with Bako and Valentin, so much the better.
So, uh, the White Sox still have no idea how they've been successful.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/white-sox-looki.html
With their season over, it’s time to round up some White Sox rumors.
* Scot Gregor of the Daily Herald says GM Kenny Williams wants to add speed to the top and bottom of his order. Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune hints at the same.
* The speedy and available: Brian Roberts, Ichiro Suzuki (maybe), Coco Crisp, Nick Punto, Willy Taveras, Jerry Hairston Jr., Juan Pierre, Randy Winn, Bobby Abreu, Luis Castillo, Corey Patterson [!], Julio Lugo, and Cesar Izturis.
* Gonzales says Juan Uribe (free agent) and Toby Hall (club option) would like to return. Ken Griffey Jr. would also be willing to talk.
* Gonzales ponders a veteran shakeup, wondering if the Sox will look to move players with no-trade clauses such as Paul Konerko, Jim Thome, and Javier Vazquez. Chris De Luca sees Nick Swisher staying, but no chance of re-signing Orlando Cabrera.l
No way you’re gonna beat out the White Sox for all that speed, Dusty; might as well put that notion behind you right now. Give it up. It was a good idea, but the Reds can’t compete. Back to the drawing board. Oh well.
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holy crap
The last time I saw this much green it was St. Patrick’s Day.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
you need to hang out with Cool Jesus more
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
actually
it is cool god and gay jesus
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
its a celebration!
a rec is like buying someone a electronic beer. recs all around!!
"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 7, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think your medication is getting to you.
Maybe you should lie down. :)
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
slyde is right.. because if CP is on the team
you know darn well that Dusty will play him…
AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew
seriously
pay him 390,000. There is no way he can have as bad a season again. use him as a 5th outfielder and occasional starter to give someone a rest.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
if the reds bring him back
i’m goign to make him shovel has drive way ala John Vanderwal
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
Jocketty must Dusty proof this team
That means no Corey Pattersons, No Buck Coates, No tooth aches, no Juan Castros, no Jason Ellisons
no players that Dusty or any other dimwitted manager ( see Narron, Jerry ) could use in lieu of another player with actual major league talent.
Thank You
AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew
You know what happens when you give Dusty Corey...
He goes from fifth outfielder to second outfielder and leadoff hitter.
So no, he’s not worth the league minimum. At all.
This place is like a sexy preschool.
They've already got Willie Mays Hayes in CF.
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Oct 8, 2008 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
we need some outfielders
we have two on the roster. Freel and Hopper are not in my vision for the future of this team. Corey really isn’t either but I would take him over Fropper
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
Freel is signed...
is Hopper? And there’s Dickerson and perhaps Hairston.
This place is like a sexy preschool.
freel is done
and he just flat out isn’t that good anyway. Hairston had a career year and is very injury prone. You can not count on him for a full season. You have Dickerson and Bruce and hopefully they go out and get a Holiday from the Rockies, or some other good outfielder
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
i'll bet you right now
that he plays less than 90 games in the Majors next season
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
Play Micah Owings in left
for about 50-60 games. It certainly would be better than any of the above mentioned outfielders
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
or dusty goes to corey's next city (like asheville)
to stay with the family.
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
If Dusty manages the Asheville Tourists or Corey graces that outfield I groomed oh so many times
I swear I will pack my bags and never look back
Politickin' in God's Country
oh of course
I like watching the trainwreck that is the McCain candidacy slowly hemorrhage points in the polls
Politickin' in God's Country
Yep
On CNN, they have the “uncommitted Ohio voters” EKG machine. It’s more interesting than the debate itself.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 7, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way
For supposedly “uncommitted” voters, they sure like Obama a lot.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 7, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i watched like a good history student
the daily show just said Cubs fans are stupid
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
by justin007000 on Oct 7, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Nate’s a little stiff on TV, but then it would be intimidating going in against Colbert because you never know what you are going to get with him. Seriously, jetpacks? I would have peed my pants right there.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
The "baseball equivalent of McCain" was interesting
Under the circumstances, the Seattle Pilots was a good answer. Real old-timey team names would be too obscure. The Troy Haymakers?
I liked the "Palin just picked off first" bit too.
Worked very nicely.
by Brendanukkah on Oct 8, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
sarah palin is really Corey Paterson?
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
You can't spell "Patterson" without
Prost!
by Brendanukkah on Oct 8, 2008 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
by justin007000 on Oct 8, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
“Senator Obama says we need to safely dispose of nuclear energy or something like that… my friends I tell you nuclear energy is safe.”
Um…. FTH???
Politickin' in God's Country
The "young vote" wasn't around for Chernobyl
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
I'm actually with him on that one
We shouldn’t have turned away from nuclear power in the 70’s. I blame Steve Garvey.
right on
saying nuclear power is unsafe because of 3-mile and chernobyl is like saying that cars aren’t safe because the steam boilers explode so often.
That being said, of COURSE it’s Steve Garvey’s fault! What isn’t? For example: Who played CF when Garvey was playing 1B in the late 70s?
Hint: His name rhymes with Fusty Faker.
See! I told you it was all Steve Garvey’s fault.
forgot where he was
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
by justin007000 on Oct 7, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Russian petrodollars?
what happened to the ruble?
"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 7, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Oil is sold only in dollars
That’s the reason we could run up a debt that would make any other country a banana republic. Instead of dollars backed by gold, they’re backed by oil.
And it’s not even our oil!
That’s why some believe we invaded Iraq because Saddam started selling oil for euros.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
there were a thousand reasons why we invaded Iraq
unfortunately few of them were noble.
but there we go again, livin’ in the past!
"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 7, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That you are a fucking idiot?
Vote Pops in '08. I promise nothing and I'll do it!
by Pops Daniels on Oct 8, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
In baseball news
"We’re going to move on," Jocketty said. "In the case of Bako, we’re looking to improve the catching. (Ryan) Hanigan had a good year. We’re probably going to go younger."
Ohhhh SNAP!
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
SHEEEEEEE-IT!!!!
uncle Walt just done got us a new bicycle for our birfday!!
"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 7, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting rid of all of Dusty's guys
Writing’s on the wall, Fistbands.
by Brendanukkah on Oct 7, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad....
…..too bad Dusty isn’t going with him. Anyone that could give this man 366 at bats and even bat him lead off (never mind hitting Juan *&$^#@! Castro second) has no business managing a team in Major League Baseball.
Listening to the radio on the way into work this morning
They were talking to a woman who has just written a book about sports called “”http://www.amazon.com/GameFace-Kick-Ass-Guide-Women-Sports/dp/0753513285/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223474098&sr=1-1" >GameFace." She mentioned that her first job was with the San Francisco Giants, and casually mentioned how cool it was that she got to take batting practice with Dusty Baker. As soon as I heard his name, I started screaming obscenities in my car and flipping middle fingers and nobody in particular.
I may have a problem.
the reviews for that book are somewhat amusing
This book is funny, smart and extremely entertaining. I loved every little bit and highly recommend! Erica Boeke makes me proud to be a woman who loves sports!
Is there any chance that “Amy”, the reviewer, is not BFFs with Erica Boeke?
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
no
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Something about submitting an Amazon review under a pen name.
I never understood why that was such a big deal.
I know, I tear up too
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
OF
Out of Hairston, Hopper and Freel, I’d like to see one of them back. I’d prefer Hairston, who comes off as a more classic top-of-lineup guy. That said, if the Reds get a righthanded OF bat, I’d be happy to say goodbye to all 3 and give Dickerson the third OF slot.
agreed
except that I don’t think Hairston is more top of the lineup than Freel. Before the injuries really started taking their toll, Freel was good for a .360+ OBP and 35+ stolen bases a season. Hairston has never done that with consistency. The real problem is that both of them are so injury prone that you can’t plan on either of them being in the lineup and therefore you need to find a reliable backup. I’d rather they just got a reliable starter and let one of those guys be the backup.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Keep Jerry Jr and Kepp
Freel (big contract, thanks Waynr) is more likely to hurt himself through over playing than Cherry. Besides Cherry is the Reds last remaining link to the Negro Leagues.
Ibn Khaldoun and Hulrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.
Doesn't
Cool Papa Bell have a grandson that we can sign instead?
Vote Pops in '08. I promise nothing and I'll do it!
Salary Situation
I’m sure this has been discussed somewhere else. Can someone link me to a detailed description of what money we have committed for next year?
Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser? BOOSE BONZER?
I haven't updated this in a while
but you can see the individual numbers here: http://redreporter.wikidot.com/salary-breakdown
There are some option buyouts that are off the books, I believe. And I haven’t done anything to account for monies that changed hands during the Griffey and Dunn deals.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
The Wiki in general needs updating, big time.
I’ll post a diary about it sometime soon.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 9, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
the new tag line kinda sucks
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
i just counted all the calories i eat in a day
i feel like a fatty. But on a Friday of heavy drinking, that started at a Mexican resturant, which included steak, nacho’s, maragrittas, fried ice cream, 5 beers, 5 shots of rum, and then going to the late night diner in town and getting french toast, home fries, and bacon, i consumed 4669 calories. To be fair it was the night of the first debate.
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
Wow
That’s impressive. I think that would feed a small third world nation…
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Small sample size.
Keep up that pace a few months, and you’ll be…. well… you’ll be my old roommate.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 9, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
presidential politics is slowly killing me
"It will put a smile on your face to see a Chevy with a Soviet transmission"
there's a new tag line?
there’s an old tag line?
wait…what are we talking about?
by chandrathan on Oct 9, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you.
I was beginning to think nobody got where that came from.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 9, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to say the young kids just don't get it
but you’re the same age as justin and Brendan is around the same age as ’than. So, I guess they just suck.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Have you checked the urban/rural divide?
City folks just don’t get it!™
This place is like a sexy preschool.
by Gray on Oct 9, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You betcha!
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
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