Bill James Projections are here!
If you are like me, and I doubt you are, the release throughout the off-season of various projection systems is pretty much the only thing that keeps you going baseball-wise. Well, even though the World Series ain't quite over yet, the off-season has begun.
The fine folks at SBN have procured the 2009 Bill James Handbook projections for our use on the site (special thanks to ACTA Sports). I couldn't think of anything better to do than to share them with you right here and now.
Hitter Age G AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI RC RC27 BB SO SB CS Avg OBP Slg OPS Bruce,Jay 22 159 587 174 30 4 35 94 90 109 6.75 46 145 12 7 .296 .351 .540 .891 Dickerson,Chris 27 150 564 151 28 7 21 93 74 94 5.74 80 176 37 13 .268 .360 .454 .814 Encarnacion,Edwin 26 148 539 150 37 1 25 83 85 91 6.05 56 95 4 2 .278 .356 .490 .846 Freel,Ryan 33 100 327 87 17 2 3 48 21 40 4.19 33 56 19 8 .266 .342 .358 .700 Hairston,Jerry 33 93 220 58 14 1 4 31 22 27 4.23 18 32 8 4 .264 .333 .391 .724 Hanigan,Ryan 28 33 102 28 5 0 2 12 10 14 4.92 12 14 0 0 .275 .357 .382 .739 Keppinger,Jeff 29 117 439 134 24 2 5 53 43 63 5.34 35 23 3 2 .305 .359 .403 .762 Phillips,Brandon 28 154 601 158 30 4 21 84 76 80 4.60 39 101 22 9 .263 .313 .431 .744 Votto,Joey 25 157 586 180 40 2 30 87 102 120 7.55 74 111 13 7 .307 .386 .536 .922
OMG, I LUV Joey Votto! Seriously though, who wouldn't be ecstatic with those seasons from Votto, Bruce, Dickerson and EdE? How many wins would a season like that from Dickerson be worth over what they got from Corey Patterson last year? Brandon Phillips on the other hand does not look so hot.
Pitcher Age G GS IP H HR BB SO HB W L Pct Sv BR/9 ERA Affeldt,Jeremy 30 65 0 77 79 8 34 59 3 4 5 .444 0 13.6 4.39 Arroyo,Bronson 32 32 32 212 222 27 64 152 10 11 12 .478 0 12.6 4.25 Bray,Bill 26 61 0 42 43 4 17 46 1 2 2 .500 0 13.1 4.26 Burton,Jared 28 42 0 45 44 4 20 40 2 2 3 .400 0 13.2 4.11 Cordero,Francisco 34 67 0 68 60 5 29 77 2 4 3 .571 34 12.0 3.53 Cueto,Johnny 23 28 28 154 155 24 52 151 14 8 10 .444 0 12.9 4.56 Harang,Aaron 31 29 29 184 192 25 50 155 5 10 10 .500 0 12.1 4.11 Lincoln,Mike 34 64 0 63 63 8 22 48 2 3 4 .429 0 12.4 4.13 Majewski,Gary 29 44 0 45 55 4 17 28 3 2 3 .400 0 15.0 5.28 Masset,Nick 27 35 0 57 71 6 25 40 3 2 4 .333 0 15.6 5.82 Owings,Micah 26 25 21 118 124 13 43 91 11 6 7 .462 0 13.6 4.52 Volquez,Edinson 25 30 30 192 176 20 95 191 10 11 11 .500 0 13.2 4.08 Weathers,David 39 70 0 71 68 7 30 50 3 4 4 .500 0 12.8 4.00
Pitching is historically much harder to predict, which is why you'll see a much tighter bunching of ERAs - regression has a much larger effect in pitching projections. I don't put a lot of stock in pitching projections because even the best systems only get halfway there. But, I thought I'd post them anyway.
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not real bullish on hairston, huh?
it’s just sinking in that we don’t have dunn anymore. The team looks a lot different… not necessarily in a good way.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Oct 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
obp, slg, and ops get cut off in the narrow screen version
by jacob brumfield on Oct 27, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is some crappy form
Hitter OBP Slg OPS
Bruce,Jay .351 .540 .891
Dickerson,Chris .360 .454 .814
Encarnacion,Edwin .356 .490 .846
Freel,Ryan .342 .358 .700
Hairston,Jerry .333 .391 .724
Hanigan,Ryan .357 .382 .739
Keppinger,Jeff .359 .403 .762
Phillips,Brandon .313 .431 .744
Votto,Joey .386 .536 .922
by jacob brumfield on Oct 27, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why no wide screen version?
elite intellectual minority my ass!
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 27, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm reading this on an Apple IIe
It’s retro cool.
by Red Menace on Oct 27, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harang projected to have basically this year again.
I’m hoping for a bit of a return to 05-07 numbers – Is this all regression based? Does this have to do with an age decline?
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
by andromache on Oct 27, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone's gonna be within 2 games of .500?
I call shenanigans. I think they’re just guessing wildly, right down the middle.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Oct 27, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SoSo Cordero's the only one with a winning record
But then again, it’s pretty darn impossible to predict wins and losses in any sort of meaningful way.
by Brendanukkah on Oct 27, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But don't you read the newspaper and listen to the radio?
You can have all your fancy schmancy nerd stats but when it comes down to it, all that matters is wins and losses!
Why do you think Joe Blanton is gonna get a World Series ring this year? (you just KNOW that ‘I told you so’ article is coming)
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Oct 27, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you
just kick his ass already. You may get fired but I’ll bet you can get RR’s to kick in until you find a new one.
Vote Pops in '08. I promise nothing and I'll do it!
by Pops Daniels on Oct 28, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Blanton gets a ring
and Doucherty writes an article about it, I will be very, very, sad.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Oct 28, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Harang
I dont think the system can adjust for a period when he was obviously injured.
After the SD relief appearance- Aaron was at a 3.32 ERA. Then Dusty did his thing and he wasnt right till September when Aaron posted a 3.07 ERA for the last month.
I think Harang is back and if the Reds solve their left infield problem- I would think Aaron should be around a 3 ERA.
by davidmac84 on Oct 28, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Dickerson
is a player the more you look at his career numbers the more you have to like his potential. Good range/speed numbers. Has always from day one put up great walk numbers and his HR count has increased every year.
If Jay Bruce makes the big jump up next year- and the Reds solve the left side defensive issue- they could a playoff team next year.
by davidmac84 on Oct 27, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
honestly
my thinking on Dickerson is that the Reds should take advantage of a very athletic player in his prime for a year and then trade him in the off-season, letting Drew Stubbs take over CF in 2010.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 27, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crazy enough to work...
and by the way: VOTTO!
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Oct 27, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awwwwwwwwwwwwesome
"If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you? You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 27, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see...
…a Bill James report card. How did last year’s predictions compare to reality?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Oct 27, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the James predictions tend to be middle of the pack compared to other systems
The few guys that I looked at from last year were close, but off for varying reasons. EdE’s (.287/.355/.476) numbers came out lower, but mainly because his BABIP was 60 points below what James predicted last season. Build his BABIP back up entirely with singles and James was fairly accurate. That doesn’t mean that he was right, but there is a chance that EdE was somewhat unlucky though I’m not completely convinced.
BP’s projection (.268/.316/.438) was right on.
They were overly optimistic on Votto (.307/.388/.533) and Bruce (.309/.366/.606), though Votto came a lot closer to his projection than Bruce, which is to be expected since Bruce had hardly played above A-ball before this season. They nailed Griffey’s (.263/.353/.487) and Dunn’s (.251/.386/.537) OBP, but both players came up short on Slugging.
Like I said, I only looked at a handful of players, but I’d say this system is as good as any other system. Really, the difference from one system to the next is usually only a couple of percentage points overall.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 27, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh,
I remember when this came out and we were all like OMG BRUCE .972 OPS!!!!
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Oct 27, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For offense, I thought James' projections were historically bullish
I can’t find anything substantial to back this up, other than Szym’s comment from a year ago (no. 15).
by ken on Oct 28, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that may be
my point was more that he’s middle of the pack in terms of accuracy. The system isn’t one of the best, but it also isn’t one of the worst either, as I recall.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 28, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realized that after posting
Still, it’s still worth noting the optimism in looking at the sexiness in some of these projections.
by ken on Oct 28, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ken with the cockblock
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 28, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm missing something obvious
But 69-78 (the combined pitcher W-L) doesn’t add up to 162. Is James just guessing some FA signees or AAA guys’ll get the other 25 decisions?
Politickin' in God's Country
by chesirecat on Oct 27, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, for one
I took Josh Fogg off the list. But these performances are more based on individual results than team results. And also, I never trust pitching projections, especially when it comes to wins.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 27, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants fan here...
but I like the Reds a lot for next year. I think they could be next year’s Rays if they make the right moves this off-season (i.e. shoring up the defense and bringing in a good catcher)
Moving EdE to LF and bring in a strong 3B could be a great step in doing so
by NeifiChicken on Oct 29, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so a question I've wanted to ask a Giants fan...
what on Gods Green Earth are you planning to do with your offense? Willing to trade one of those awesome starters? Any prospects looking like they could do some damage?
I don’t mean this as a “hey, Reds-Giants trade EH????”, but I’ve never spoken to a Giants fan, and I’m curious what you think you can do to get competitive.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Oct 29, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I might be a weird fan to ask
I’m in the extreme minority that believes in tearing down this club and trading Lincecum and Cain for tons of mega prospects (i.e. Lincecum for Rasmus, Brett Wallace, Daryl Jones, and Jes Todd) and trying to have the best possible team looking to 2011 or 12 when some of the Giants legitimate prospects (Posey, Alderson, Bumgarner, Gallaspie) could be ready to contribute. Sandoval might be alright, but to me he only holds real value as a catcher and the Giants seem intent on keeping Molina for now
The way I see it, in the short term (next 2-3 years) I just don’t see the Giants becoming a very good team. Maybe .500 at best. They just don’t have the talent in the upper level in the minors, so I think the greatness of Lincecum and Cain will be going to waste in those years. The Giants best prospects are all at least 2 years away from contributing.
Realistically, I don’t think the Giants share my view and probably think they are on the verge of winning because they incorrectly perceive the NL West as weak (AZ and LA should only be better as their young guys improve). I see them holding onto Cain and Lincecum and trying to add to the offense and bulpen this off-season via trade or free agency. I could see them trading Jonathan Sanchez and Randy Winn to try and bring in some offense at positions of need (3B). I expect they go after Beltre, like the Reds, and while i like him, I think the Giants need much more than just Beltre to contend.
I fully expect Sabean to try and patch the offense here and there, but ultimately this team is probably going to hover around 77-79 wins, if not worse.
Cain might have an outside chance of getting dealt, but if I had to bet on it, I would bet no
by NeifiChicken on Oct 29, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
Vote Pops in '08. I promise nothing and I'll do it!
by Pops Daniels on Oct 29, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my second-favorite team
Cy, that’s not true. You’ve talked to me, and the Giants are my second-favorite team. We share one great passion: despising the Dodgers.
I think NeifiChicken has it exactly right. The Giants are going to be bad — really bad — for a long time. They can face the music and do something about it -so that after a bad spell they could be good - or keep doing what they always do (overpay for veterans, despite massive lineup holes) and then after the bad spell they will be bad some more.
I think Neifi’s trade ideas are pretty good ones.
The one thing the Giants have on the league is announcers. Miller, Kuiper, Krukow, and Flemming are all very-good to fantastic.
by bbjones on Oct 30, 2008 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.500 might get you to the playoffs in that division
everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds
by RaysOfHope on Nov 1, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you named after Dusty's favorite shortstop?
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Oct 31, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear NeifiChicken
Thanks for your input. its nice to hear that you think (as I do) that the Reds ain’t that far away from becoming a strong competitor.
Er…UH
Do you lurk here often? Since you’re from (or a fan of) San San Francisco do you know Gay Jesus? He seems well meaing enough but would appear (at the end of the day ) to be more inclined to be a Ginats fan….
Sgt. McCAin and Sarah The Impaler don't scare me none.
by Madville on Oct 29, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't lurk here all that often, but...
For my job I was asked to come up some idea for “sleeper” teams that could surprise a lot of people next year (as the Rays did this year). I looked into it and came up with the Reds as my leading candidate because I liked their pitchers, young hitters, and feel that if Jocketty makes the right moves the Reds could really shock people.
Since doing that, I have taken an increased interest in the Reds success because obviously if they prove me right, I look smarter in the eyes of my boss
by NeifiChicken on Oct 29, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What kind of 'Job' you got ? Here's a list of the 10 (best) through 1 (worst) crummiest jobs in the country.
Top 10 Worst Jobs in America
10 Police Officer
Unless you are patrolling Mayberry, you are risking your life every day you start your shift. Street cops are often under trained and out gunned in the most dangerous situations. Every traffic stop, domestic dispute call or drug house bust could be their last. Although the benefits are great the pay is only adequate and many officers moonlight doing private security or as bodyguards. Moving through the ranks and becoming a Detective or some other non street level position is usually the best option for a long career. however getting on the ’Mob’s’ payroll is probably yout best option.
9 Firemen
Arson for profit. Old, abandoned buildings full of homeless people. These are a couple of reasons that that big city fireman have to risk their lives everyday. They have to go in, save lives and put out a fire before it spreads to surrounding buildings. In times of riots (Detroit and Watts in the 1960’s and LA after the Rodney King verdict) they are actually the victims of attack from angry mobs. It is a demanding job not for those weak in mind or body. Although you can moonlight in a Villiage people tribute band.
8 Exterminators
If a roach or rat infested house is your idea of fun then this job is for you. For the rest of us, the prospect of going into a stranger’s house that is overrun by disease spreading vermin is a nightmare job. Plus you get to expose your body to a lot of toxic chemicals
7 Convenience store workers
A job where your life could be lost over a few dollars in the till.. Despite closed circuit cameras and even an occasional gun hidden under the counter, many employees are shot even before a demand of money is made. And you have to be able to Korean, Vietnamese, Jive and 6 dialects from India and Pakistan.
6 Prostitute
The world’s oldest profession is alive and well on city streets all across the planet. Besides the risk of being raped, assaulted or even killed, there is always the real chance of catching an STD or AIDS. Since it’s illegal in most states, prostitutes also run the risk of being arrested and jailed. And now with Cialis you have to work twice as hard for half the money.
5 Factory Worker
The $5 a day that Henry Ford offered people to work in his Detroit factories almost 100 years ago was life changing to some families. Many laborers and skilled tradesman jumped at the chance to double their income. Although conditions are safer nowadays and the pay is much more thanks to unions and collective bargaining agreements, the typical factory job is still dirty, hard and tedious.
Plus if you lucky you’ll only lose one or two fingers….
4 Office Worker
A long commute to spend an even longer day in a cube. You work just hard enough to keep from getting fired and get paid just enough to keep from quitting. Most people spend a lot of time surfing the net, exchanging humorous emails, updating their resume or reading Red Reporter. It’s a wonder any business gets done at all!
3 Cab Driver
Most drivers have to put in long hours behind the wheel to make a living. You have to deal with traffic jams and passengers that don’t tip. Sometime passengers are actually out to rob you of the few dollars you have made and will kill you in a heartbeat. This is why some cabbies will not pick up certain fares which of course leads to more controversy. On the other hand if you need a quick geography lesson regarding countries on the Gold Coaste your friendly cabbie is always willing to help.
2 Drug Dealer
Crack, weed, meth, etc. They’re available on any street corner for a few dollars a hit. In neighborhoods where drug use is rampant and jobs are scarce, many people choose this fast money option to make some cash to pay the bills. Whether it is the low level, street corner dealer or someone in a "middle management" capacity, the risks are high (overdose, killed by your own customers, rival gangs and becoming Bubba’s low paid prison bitch ) and pay is surprisingly low. (But the ‘pay-off’ can be surprisingly ’HIGH’)
1Telemarketer
They call at dinner time, in the middle of your favorite movie or right when you finally get the baby to sleep. They are pre-scripted, auto call generated denizens of call centers calling to sell us magazines, insurance or to get us to change our long distance service. The truth is most of those people calling us are not hard working young people that really are paying their way through college or older people in between "real jobs" trying to keep up with their mortgage payments, who are practically tied to the phone by a headset with breaks and lunches tightly monitored. They are almost all well to do foreign students. So now days you have to move to India to get hired. But on the bright side you if live in your Mom’s basement you may not even have to leave the house to go to workl.
so NeifiChicken any of these jobs compare with yours?
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on Oct 30, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, I’d say the closest is no. 4, but it’s not quite as grim. I work for an internet startup that centers around sports. Our main draw is that we have users try and predict the outcome of sporting events, although there is definitely more to the site than that. The site is still in BETA right now so it’s certainly not complete, but if you want to check it out you can click on the hyperlink above my name.
One of the founders of the site is actually a pretty famous baseball person who I’ve now gotten to know personally, which is how/why I took the job in the first place
by NeifiChicken on Oct 30, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That site is friggin' addicting.
Nice work.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 30, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um
You guys need any help from a Midwest-based telecommuting systems administrator? :)
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Oct 30, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a recently laid off web developer?
This thing is awesome.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 30, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, maybe, I don’t really handle that side of the business, but if you’re serious I do know they are looking to expand within a few months. There’s a jobs@wazzel.com e-mail where you can inquire about such things
There’s obviously still lots of room for growth within the site and the hope is that by next baseball season (or possibly sooner) they can get really aggressive with pushing the site out there.
If you have any questions about the site or feedback, feel free to tell me, we’re always looking for feedback.
BTW, while on the topic, have you tried the sports trivia “Game” yet? I designed every question outside of soccer in that game and I think it would be quite challenging, even for knowledgeable baseball fans. I’d recommend playing the baseball level on US/CANADA
by NeifiChicken on Oct 30, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried it.
I made it to whatever level you have to name the world series champion by year. It’s a lot more challenging than I expected it to be.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Oct 30, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, World Series seems to be the level that gets everyone. Perhaps I should make it later on
by NeifiChicken on Oct 30, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know that Dave Trembley was the coach of the Orioles
I need to pay attention to the AL more.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 30, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tried it again
this time I made it to the former parks. That one is tough.
The World Series round I had like 5 straight NY answers. I don’t know how you fix that, but it makes it less challenging.
And there are too many nicknames for the Giants. Specifically, I think Gnats should be taken out because of the “Nats” nickname for the Nationals. Just my opinion though.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 30, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haaaaa.
I’m not great at this – but second tries were good enough for most levels.
I do not think I will ever beat former parks. It’s killing my soul.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
by andromache on Oct 31, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and this is coming from a Jeopardy Champion!
How can the rest of us be expected to compete?
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 31, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that world series level is tough
who knew the Tigers won in ’68? it killed me! i was only a few points from advancing!
"If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you? You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 30, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was the year Denny McLain won 31 games
I don’t think that’s been done since.
Then 'twas the Roman, now 'tis I.
by Man Mountain on Oct 30, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, it hasn't
Gambling on the game has though.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 30, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about pitchers playing the organ between innings?
Then 'twas the Roman, now 'tis I.
by Man Mountain on Oct 30, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you, some kind of fucking traditionalist?
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the "kind" really matters
Then 'twas the Roman, now 'tis I.
by Man Mountain on Oct 30, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carmen went to Minneapolis!!!
Fun game. That level of Hall of Famers should definitely be earlier, before WS winners. I plateaued on where-they-spent-the-majority-of-their-career-OR-where-they’re-currently-playing. I kept answering Texas for Teixeira, Minnesota for mientkiewicz,etc…
Also the “correct” location of Cincinnati seems a little off. It looks closer to Dayton.
by Red Menace on Oct 31, 2008 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, due to lakes the map isn't 100% for some places
but we figured it wouldnt affect scores too much.
The consensus is definitely that WS is too hard and too early, but it’s only that way to match up with other sports (because for other sports like Soccer and Cricket, that is the final level)
by NeifiChicken on Oct 31, 2008 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a new investment strategy
From here (via Brew Crew Ball):
If you had purchased $1,000 of Delta Air Lines stock one year ago, you would have $49 left.
With AIG, you would have less than $15.
With Fannie Mae, you would have two dollars and fifty cents.
But, if you had purchased $1,000 worth of beer one year ago, drunk all of the beer, then turned in the cans for the aluminum recycling refund, you would have $214 cash.
Clearly, the best current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle. It’s called the 401-Keg plan.
Obviously this wouldn’t work in Ohio, but I go to Michigan enough for my job that I could still make it work.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 30, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amassing all your cans to transport across state lines to get the recycling refund?
Your Seinfeld fixation has gone too far!
by Brendanukkah on Oct 30, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't stolen a mail truck
yet
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
by Slyde on Oct 30, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Slyde, let me be sure I understand you....
If I purchase $3,500 worth of beer I’d be able to get a great deal drunker or at least as drunk as a skunk only 3.5 more of my non comatose time. No wonder no one is calling you some kind of traditionalist.
I just cleaned out my car, its a 1994 Toyota Camry with 194,320 miles on it….looks like I may have enough here to get a couple quarts of oil….
This is great news.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
by Madville on Oct 31, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha!
Excellent.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Oct 31, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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