HOF welcomes Goose, and that's it

by ken on Jan 8, 2008 2:55 PM EST

With 86% of the vote, the BBWAA elected Rich Gossage into the HOF today. Jim Rice fell just a few points shy of the 75% needed for induction and will likely be voted in next year.

Former Reds on the ballot included Dave Concepcion (16.2), Dave Parker (15.1), and Jose Rijo (0, which means that he received one less vote than in 2001, after his first retirement). I think there's a good sabermetric argument for Concepcion, but at this point he has no realistic chance of entering the HOF without paying for a ticket. He also doesn't seem to have the Reds and former teammates backing him in the same way they did for Perez. But Concepcion's case may just show how tough induction is for the pre-strike shortstops. Alan Trammel has a stronger case and only received 18%.

Predictably, Tim Raines was screwed, receiving only 24.3% of the vote. It will be difficult to raise his tally next year with Henderson gaining eligibility. Raines may end up being the offensive counterpart of Bert Blyleven, who received 61.9%.

Regarding a different HOF, Baseball Prospectus (no sub) just ran an interview with Rick Walls and Chris Eckes (who run the Reds HOF) that's worth a read.

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Player      Total Votes       Percentage

Rich Gossage        466            85.8%

Jim Rice            392            72.2%

Andre Dawson        358            65.9%

Bert Blyleven       336            61.9%

Lee Smith           235            43.3%

Jack Morris         233            42.9%

Tommy John          158            29.1%

Tim Raines          132            24.3%

Mark McGwire        128            23.6%

Alan Trammell        99            18.2%

Dave Concepcion      88            16.2%

Don Mattingly        86            15.8%

Dave Parker          82            15.1%

Dale Murphy          75            13.8%

Harold Baines        28             5.2%

Rod Beck              2             0.4%

Travis Fryman         2             0.4%

Robb Nen              2             0.4%

Shawon Dunston        1             0.2%

Chuck Finley          1             0.2%

David Justice         1             0.2%

Chuck Knoblauch       1             0.2%

Todd Stottlemyre      1             0.2%

Jose Rijo             0               0%

Brady Anderson        0               0%

by Red Menace on Jan 8, 2008 3:43 PM EST 0 recs

Do you think Chuck Knoblauch is..

..sitting at home thinking, "So you're telling me there's a chance..?"

(Points.)

"Breakfast, broke it fast. She was in my English class. Asked for notes, rocked my boat. Jenifa..."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 8, 2008 4:06 PM EST up 0 recs

who the fuck voted for

shawn dunston and chuck finnly?

The Dusty path to the World Series!

by justin0070000 on Jan 8, 2008 4:42 PM EST up 0 recs

two birds

Dumb and Dumber

by Man Mountain on Jan 8, 2008 5:14 PM EST up 0 recs

The Tawny Eagle?

by ken on Jan 8, 2008 5:35 PM EST up 0 recs

re

youre really good at moving without the ball

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 8, 2008 6:07 PM EST up 0 recs

voting trends

Bert improved 14%. He's still got a chance. Dawson improved 9% and will probably get in some day. Next year is Rice's last on the ballot meaning there will be some drama. I'm betting many writers are going to think of themselves as the deciding vote and he'll get in easily. Last year Gossage had 388 votes, almost identical to Rice's 392 this year.

McGwire got the exact same number of votes as last year. Looks like no one's budging on him.

Trammel improved 5% but he's still getting no love. And dear lord, Tim Raines numbers are sad. It would be nice if he could get in next year with Rickey, but there's probably no chance.

And thus ends the Davey Concepcion campaign.

by Red Menace on Jan 8, 2008 7:07 PM EST 0 recs

bullshat

sorry, but if Raines doesnt garner more that 25% of the vote....blow up the Hall.

What a joke. I understand not making him a first ballot HOF'er, but this is truly ridiculous.

by obc2 on Jan 9, 2008 9:09 AM EST up 0 recs

I find it a little exasperating that

players who really do not have a case for the HoF like Morris, John, and anyone south of Davey on the list above got votes and my man Josey gets nada.

I mean, come on...Harold Baines?! Really?

No love for Josey. Bah.

"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose

by Officer Dibble on Jan 9, 2008 9:42 PM EST 0 recs