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Game Thread: 10/20/1990 World Series Game 4 vs. Oakland

TIME: 8:00 @ Riverfront Stadium

                                       

A's PROBABLE:
                             REDS PROBABLE:
Dave Stewart (22-11, 2.56)           Jose Rijo (14-8, 2.70)

It's all come down to this. Never would have thought in a million years the Reds would be going for a sweep. Get ready to celebrate, I've got a good feeling about Rijo tonight.

Go Reds!

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sweep baby!!
how awesome would that be?  do you guys realize that going back to 75 the Reds have an eight game winning streak going into tonight?? Go Reds!!
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Going into tonight it's 8
1 in 1975, 4 in 1976, 3 in 1990
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

this sucks...
its not on in Columbus, they're playing the freaking AHL All Star Game instead... ridiculous!  i've been looking forward to this for a week now.
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Jan 28, 2008 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

that sucks
I was hoping they cut away from that drivel
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid West Coast games!
My parents are going to make me go to bed!  I can't wait until I'm grown up, 18 years later, and stay up as late as I want to watch this game in reruns.

What do you mean I'll probably live out of market?

by Brendanukkah on Jan 28, 2008 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

I'm out of market, too
I'm getting "1978 World Series, Game 3: Dodgers at Yankees" tonight.

And "1969: Baltimore Orioles at New York Mets."

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 28, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I rooted against the Reds. Really.
CAUTION:  SPOILER ALERT

I was living in Detroit at the time; a buddy of mine work for a bookie.  The Reds were paying 25-1 to sweep, and he was on me constantly to bet.  "No, way," said I.  "I'll take them 4-1 to win, but the A's are too good to get swept."

Even though I outwardly wanted them to win, I was secretly wishing for a loss in game 4.

just....wow.

by sidnancy on Jan 28, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

Twenty fucking five to one
Me gambling days are done
I bet on a team called the Cincinnati Reds
And my team won!

by Brendanukkah on Jan 28, 2008 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I fell asleep during this game back in the day
I'll be good money the same will happen tonight.

Unfortunately, I doubt my parents will wake me up for the last inning this time.  My mom doesn't come down to the basement anymore.

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

er, I'll bet good money
though I think it's obvious that I am money and don't even know it.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

manson was once used as currency
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/manson/14.html
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 28, 2008 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This just in
Willie McGee was one ugly MoFo!
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

i can watch a dayton dragons game
grrrrrrrrrrr this pisses me off
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

I still don't see
how ED lacerated his kidney on that play.  That's just brutal.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Dave Stewart,
losing twice in a series?  I don't see it.

by ken on Jan 28, 2008 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

especially not now
that the A's have the lead and both Hatcher and Davis are out of the game.

OH MY GAWD!!!!  GLENN BRAGGS JUST BROKE A BAT OVER HIS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

don't worry
we have Billy Bates
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

ah
glenn braggs breaking his bat on his back. faaaaaaaantastic.
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 28, 2008 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

the man is a beast
it is amazing how built baseball players are now. Where do they find the time to spend lifting?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

theyre just
really really really hard workers i guess.
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 28, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the new wave
Players are working out like never before.  And I have a feeling it's going to go even further.  I saw this machine called a Bowflex demo'd on TV the other day.  It's going to change work out routines completely.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

goddamn i wish Ohio Northern University
had basic fucking cable.  I don't think it is asking that much to get FSN.  Fucking ONU, I pay 38K to be at this piece of shit university and they can't even let me watch the FUCKING REDS GAMES, and i can't get them on MLB.TV either because 45810 is blacked out, because we should be getting the games broadcast on cable.  When I do get home in May, I won't be able to watch games because I will be ruining my life at Meijer, working from 3-10 or 2-9 and what not, not allowing me to watch the Reds.  Oh well this year, I am lying I am telling Meijer I have night school, and I can only work in the day time, then I can take in some baseball.
The Dusty path to the World Series!

by justin0070000 on Jan 28, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Hook it up
Get a day off, lie to the French, send me an email. I'll find you some tix.

by jch24 on Jan 28, 2008 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

what?
The Dusty path to the World Series!

by justin0070000 on Jan 30, 2008 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I was being retarded
Offering to find you some tickets to a game since you were willing to lie to the smelly French people.

by jch24 on Jan 30, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Rickey is very happy with Rickey
for tying the World Series record for stolen bases.    Rickey knew Rickey could do it.

By the way, this game is about to get really boring for Oakland fans.

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Extra time
to scour the market for undervalued players using non-traditional statistics.  Still won't win 'em a championship though ;)

by Brendanukkah on Jan 28, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Not without an Act of God at least
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

where is our countdown clock
for opening day?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

i f***ing hate these AHL All Stars
seriously why the f** is this s** even televised.
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Jan 28, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

yeah yeah
i unintentionally bolded my posted... big whoop (just trying to watch out for sensitive ears/eyes)
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Jan 28, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

if this goes into overtime
i will flip my shit
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Jan 28, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i love bonus baseball
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jan 28, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF
didn't hockey games used to end in ties.  if its good enough for an MLB All Star game, its good enough for these punks
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Jan 28, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

damnit
Hal Morris just pulled a Sean Casey (for those not familiar with Casey, he's a 16 year old in the Pittsburgh area with a good bat, but he hits into a lot of double plays).  Grounds into a double play with the bases loaded and the Reds still trail 1-0 in the bottom of the 6th.

Rijo is rolling though.

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 28, 2008 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Happy Birthday to Me..
Maybe they will win the series tonight on my birthday.
-Wake me when it is aught eight.

by snohio on Jan 28, 2008 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

On FSN Indiana
Eric Byrnes is interviewing Donovan McNabb on the Worst Damn Sports Show Question Mark.  Does anybody actually watch that show?  Why won't they just put the damn game on????

by beasleymachine on Jan 28, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Love me some stirrups.
I know it was mentioned last week, but the stirrups were just awesome.. I remember wearing mine in knothole.
-Wake me when it is aught eight.

by snohio on Jan 28, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

The Louisville Bats...
...all wear stirrups.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 28, 2008 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

where i come from
we call those "socks"
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 28, 2008 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Are they...
...those socks printed to look like stirrups?

The Louisville Bats' rules say "players must wear high socks with stirrups," and the announcers said they are real stirrups.

I really haven't been close enough to check, and they've been in the locker room and I haven't, so I took their word for it.  ;-)

The weird thing is those players who wear long pants and stirrups.  Tino Martinez used to do that.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 29, 2008 7:03 AM EST up reply actions  

upon further inspection...
youre right; theyre stirrups, which is to say theyre socks with cutouts for the heel and front foot at the very bottom, giving the illusion that theyre just socks.

im not sure what the point is. it used to be stirrups were these polyester straps that gave the appearance of ankle stripes. these cotton sock-ups certainly don't achieve that purpose. maybe they also provide some kind of arch support?

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 29, 2008 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ahh
the entire stirrup wikipedia page, stolen:

Stirrups are uniform socks that were commonly worn by baseball players up until the mid-1990s, when major league players began wearing their pants down to the ankles, setting a trend that was soon picked up by players in minor and amateur leagues. Until then, stirrup socks had been an integral part of the traditional baseball uniform, giving them a distinctive look. A high sock was needed since baseball players wore "knickers" which, similar to football pants, came to just below the knee. The stirrup socks served to display team colors, stripes or team logos. For example, for several years the Minnesota Twins wore black stirrups with "TC" on the side, for "Twin Cites". The Houston Astros wore black stirrup socks with a white star on the side. The stirrup sock colors were also the basis of team names, including the Cincinnati Red Stockings (later the "Reds"), Boston Red Sox, and Chicago White Sox. For these reasons, traditionalists lament the recent "sockless" look in baseball uniforms.

Stirrup socks are worn on top of long socks called "sanitaries," usually white in color. This is because early color dyes in the outer stirrup sock were thought to pose health issues, as well as the fact that the inner, less expensive white sock could be changed more frequently. The stirrup sock lacked a foot, instead having a loop ("stirrup") which fit under the foot and exposed part of the white undersock. Over the years, the stirrup loop tended to get longer, exposing more of the white undersock, thus creating a look unique to baseball.

However, by the 1980s many players were pulling the loop so high that only the white undersock and the loop itself showed - the rest of the game sock being hidden by their pants. For many years teams had enforced rules so that uniforms were worn "uniformly", including team socks. For example, Leo Durocher, longtime manager of the Chicago Cubs, had a measuring stick in the clubhouse. Players were required to match the length of their stirrup loops to this stick at about 4 inches, exposing only a small part of the white sanitary. Increasingly lax regulation of uniform codes by Major League Baseball eventually contributed to players ignoring the traditional look.

Although some teams continue to wear traditional baseball stirrup socks, particularly college teams, another option has been to replace the stirrup/undersock with a "2 in 1" combination sock mimicking the real thing, or simply to wear a single solid knee high sock with knickers. The trend back to knickers and high socks is particularly evident among youth and high school teams. A few pro players, such as Brian Tallet of the Toronto Blue Jays and Jamie Moyer of the Philadelphia Phillies have been spotted wearing genuine stirrups recently to much fanfare. The minor league Springfield Missouri Cardinals wear a 2-in-1 version of the traditional St Louis Cardinals' game sock that looks very much like the real thing.

Other sports also use, or have used, stirrup socks, but traditionally wore a white sweat sock over, instead of under, the colored stirrup game sock (eg, basketball, football, hockey). There are still some sock companies manufacturing stirrup socks for baseball and other sports, including Twin City Knitting Company in Conover, North Carolina. Uni Watch Blog, a site that is committed to the "Obsessive Study of Athletics Aesthetics," advocates the use of stirrups in baseball. In fact, Uni Watch's support of the stirrup is so large, a striped stirrup is present in the logo.

One would think that since so many fans like the stirrup look, some teams would start to enforce a strict stirrup policy. I mean, come on, there's not one insignificant detail that people bitch about more than the lack of long socks and stirrups. everyone would love it.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 29, 2008 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate stirrups
there, I said.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 29, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i meant
everyone who's been out of their basements in the past 12 months.
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jan 29, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah
There's really no reason to wear stirrups, now that clothing dyes are safe and they wash the uniforms every day anyway.  

It's just tradition.  Which makes it very baseball.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 29, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Still awesome..
That is still awesome..

It really sucks when you don't win the title at home.

-Wake me when it is aught eight.

by snohio on Jan 28, 2008 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

When you say sucks
you mean like being in a room with Danica McKellar and Busy Phillips, but only being able to make out with just one of them?  I mean, it kinda sucks, but it's still pretty cool, right?

Oh, and happy birthday!

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 29, 2008 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

This is one of those times...
That I hate living in Missouri...
Reds: WS Champs 2008... and every year after...

by crolfer on Jan 28, 2008 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

One of those times here NY as well
Maybe we'll repeat in October when they show it everywhere.
This situation reminds me of a scene in the movie "New Jack City"... (-Deion Sanders)

by satyanaas on Jan 28, 2008 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Good times.
I was watching the State of the Union while you guys were reliving the 90's...  : /  
This situation reminds me of a scene in the movie "New Jack City"... (-Deion Sanders)

by satyanaas on Jan 28, 2008 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This is one of those times
That I hate living in the middle of Ohio(!), where someone thinks that a minor league hockey game is more important than getting the fans ready for baseball season.

I cannot tell you how torqued I am at the jerks at FSN right now.

To top it off, they didn't even do the late night repeat of the programming like they sometimes do on OTHER sports networks.

Grr.

"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose

by Officer Dibble on Jan 29, 2008 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I have this game on vhs
And I digitized the tape a couple of years ago.

The commercials get more hilarious every year!

Where have you gone, Johnny Vander Meer?

by Joe Public on Jan 29, 2008 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

And yeah
Me too.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Jan 30, 2008 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Jose Rijo Part II
The New Jose Rijo = Edinson Volquez
Mark it down.
'Clutch' to me is the epitome of experimenter's bias.

by TheDude @ Red Reporter on Jan 29, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

so should we trade him around 2012
before he goes on a 6 year injury rehab?
The Dusty path to the World Series!

by justin0070000 on Jan 30, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking for spam?
Click the link above.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 30, 2008 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Bedard
Off topic, but check it out.  The Reds may be back in the bedard race.  Not sure if it was brought up yet, so apologize if it was.

http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2008/01/30/erik-bedard-trade-update/

by em3 on Jan 30, 2008 8:28 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly
I think that's just McPhail posturing to try to extract a little more out of the Mariners.  Given what has been traded for Haren and Santana though, the Reds better not give up more than 2 of the big 4, and Bruce's name should never even be mentioned.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Jan 30, 2008 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: Honestly
You're probably right, but you never know with Angelos over there.

by em3 on Jan 30, 2008 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

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