Adam Dunn's Season Is Finished

Dunn is having his right knee cleaned out today, so his season is now finished.
The big question now obviously is whether his 40 home runs, 106 RBI, 101 runs, 101 walks, and .264/.386/.554 line will be enough for Wayne Krivsky to pick up his (pretty cheap for the production) $13 million option.
As of last Thursday the Reds hadn't spoken to Dunn or his agent on the matter, which is a little unnerving. Exercising this option seems like such an obvious move that it's tough to understand why the Reds haven't already announced it or given some indication of what they plan on doing. I can't imagine that waiting until the last minute on these kinds of things doesn't do anything but breed confusion and possibly ill will.
The only logical explanations, are that the Reds either aren't planning on picking up the option or still haven't decided what they are doing. Both are frightening propositions. But then it still seems like such an obvious decision that I have a hard time believing the Reds really could screw it up.
But we'll see. I've got my fingers crossed because Dunn just had a hell of a season, and I'd rather not see him playing somewhere else so that Krivsky can afford to sign three or four scrubs to fill out the back of the bullpen.
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He won't be back
Just a feeling.
id have to agree with this feeling
by Shortstop2 on Sep 26, 2007 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
This is great.
I think this is a case for Slyde to tell us just what that gang of five would have to do to make up for Dunn's production.
As it stands, the group would have to add 40 HR and 100+ RBIs to what they already produce (or would be replacing, in the case of Votto and Bruce).
Right off the bat, you'd need Griffey to produce 40 HRs and not get injured, which is not very likely, in my opinion.
uh
by Shortstop2 on Sep 26, 2007 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
plus
by Shortstop2 on Sep 26, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Even ss2
by Man Mountain on Sep 26, 2007 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i take that personaly
by Shortstop2 on Sep 26, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there a rush?
Option vs. Long Term
All that being said, I don't know what the harm is in announcing that the option has been picked up. Unless the Reds think that Dunn isn't worth more than 2 draft picks and they are planning on the whole buyout, offer arb and hope he turns it down route. Picking up the option at the very least gives them another chance to trade him next summer. I think letting him walk is the absolute worst thing they can do.
Krivsky is just shady
A long term deal is in the works and Dunn will average around 15 mil for the next four years.
by jacob brumfield on Sep 26, 2007 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Lunch with Castellini
by pw on Sep 26, 2007 9:00 AM EDT reply actions
sure the Reds may want him around long-term
i really dont like being mr. pessimistic here, but its something to think about when speculating about this situation. personally, i really think they will get the deal done. i have faith in wayner on this one, even if he doesnt deserve it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 26, 2007 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
by pw on Sep 26, 2007 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
A couple of years ago
by Man Mountain on Sep 26, 2007 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
don't hyperventilate
I think the players understand that the club has a policy of not doing options and extensions in the middle of the season. The last company I worked for didn't give raises until January. Policy is policy.
Good point on Castellini
well
That stuff always works better in the offseason, you have time to get over getting your feelings hurt (hey, it happens), before getting back to work.
Personally, I'd like to see Dunn back if only for the fact that the dude NEVER GETS HURT. I mean, he's a frickin Ox out there. Compare him to Hamilton; I'll be willing to bet that we'll be lucky to get 100 games a year out of that guy.
A couple of thoughts....
When Krivsky came, his first order of business was to get Adam signed to a decent offer. I think Krivsky is aware of Dunn's value.
It's interesting to contrast Dunn's situation with the rush to lock up mediocrities like Juan Castro, Todd Coffey and Ryan Freel.
The timing of Dunn's surgery is fascinating. Anybody see this coming? Anybody hear rumblings about Adam needing this done? There are several beat writers following the team...Did any of them happen to mention this? 6 games left and they're hoping to get to third or at least not sink to fifth and they sit their best hitter for the rest of the year?
Did he decide to sit because he had hit his numeric milestones and he doesn't have a future here or did the reds see Junior go down and say..."Hey big guy, why don't you just take it easy for the rest of the year."
Is is possible that Krivsky wanted to wait till the surgery was done before offering a deal? or picking up the option?
Just FWIW, Hatteberg's option has also not been picked up. Traditionally teams don't pick up options till the end of the season. Don't want to pick up an option and then have a guy get hurt.
by dfs on Sep 26, 2007 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
From the sound of it
I need to get my radiator flushed and filled.
Ok. It's routine.
by dfs on Sep 26, 2007 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
why wait?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 26, 2007 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I had my knee scoped last Nov.
it has been reported
here
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=93pennant&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1
sadness
lol
It's here!
Hopper cf
Keppinger ss
Votto 1b
Phillips 2b
Encarnacion 3b
Valentin c
Coats lf
Ellison rf
Shearn p
Chickens have come home to roost
Let's see how your boys do!
over/under is 2 runs scored tonight
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 26, 2007 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunn and Castellini
Wait for an announcement of a meeting of the ownership partners of the Reds (after the season, after the World Series, most likely), and then sometime after that, the option or a new deal with Dunn will be announced.
Krivsky makes the deals,etc. but Bob and the ownership group hold the purse strings. This option thing is above Krivsky's pay grade. He may make a recommendation, but it's really not his call. The option or a new contract is still millions of dollars, and that's the owners' money.
by Lonesome George on Sep 26, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
"but it's really not his call"
by jacob brumfield on Sep 26, 2007 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
In Communist Russia....
by chandrathan on Sep 26, 2007 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
All your options
by Lonesome George on Sep 26, 2007 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
letting Dunn go
Don't do it Cincinnati
Not as easy a call as it looks
by HokieRed on Sep 26, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
15/per
(assumption based on nothing)
im with you
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 26, 2007 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
not much of a money grubber
Seems to me...
It seems to me that they might want to lock up Dunn long-term this winter. Such negotiations often take place in the off-season. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dunn get 5 years at $15 million per, with some trade protection. And it would be a great deal.
Oh, and Milton's salary will be off the rolls. I think that's a factor in waiting--let's wait until the money is actually available, then let's get him long-term.
I hope Dunns Knee is ok
anyone hear george foster last night?
i believe they will give him a four year deal this winter with an option for a fifth.
I'm afraid that won't be long enough
The question I see on it is whether he really wants to stay in Cincinnati for a long time (before the summer I wouldn't have doubted that, now I'm not so sure). And whether the Reds are willing to give him the length of contract that others were getting.
Personally, I'm afraid of anything longer than 4 years guaranteed, but other GMs can't seem to control themselves.
On the other hand
Just thinking out loud.
I haven't mentioned this yet
Maybe
If I'm Adam, I'm asking this question, and hoping for a really good answer; something along the lines of "Look, we're still trying to get a handle on this thing. But we've got a good core of young players now, a ton of money is coming off the books by the end of next year, and we think the next couple of free agent markets might produce a couple of guys who'll help us long-term. With you as the cornerstone, we think we can be the best team in the league over the next 5 years; without you, we're going to continue to struggle."
If that's not the answer, my reply is "Do what you want; I'm going somewhere next year that actually likes good ballplayers on their team."
lol I hope it didn't change anyones mind
I agree with everything George Foster says
by Man Mountain on Sep 27, 2007 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Foster...
Question
by HokieRed on Sep 27, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions

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