Adam, Tell Us How They Really Feel
This is from Hal's recent notebook:
Reds left fielder Adam Dunn, the subject of trade rumors, said he wasn't concerned at all about the trading deadline."Yeah, I'm happy I'm here," Dunn said. "But ask me on Sept. 1."
Dunn, who entering Tuesday led the Reds with 27 home runs to go with 67 RBIs and a .260 batting average, has been offered as trade bait by talk shows and print media, if not the Reds.
"It bothers my mom more than me," Dunn said. "My family hates the Brennamans (broadcasters Marty and Thom) and Jeff Brantley. If George Grande and Chris Welsh aren't doing the television games, they won't watch. That's sad."
An aside: throw sabermetrics out the window. Why are people so upset with 27 home runs, 67 RBI's and a .260 batting average?
0 recs |
69
comments
Comments
Wow.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Aug 1, 2007 9:54 AM EDT 0 recs
wow.
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 1, 2007 9:54 AM EDT
up
0 recs
re: wow
by Slyde on
Aug 1, 2007 9:57 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Wow
by Slyde on Aug 1, 2007 9:57 AM EDT 0 recs
I repeat
Man, if I was Dunn, I'd get the hell out of Cincinnati.
Through his actions of late, Bowden basically just told Dunn "Come here after your option is declined and I'll give you $13m per"
by bobestes on
Aug 1, 2007 10:03 AM EDT
up
0 recs
strikeouts, not clutch, solo home runs
by Red Menace on
Aug 1, 2007 10:24 AM EDT
up
0 recs
..unkempt facial hair
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 1, 2007 10:29 AM EDT
up
0 recs
ooh, I almost forgot
by Red Menace on
Aug 1, 2007 11:09 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Plus
by Slyde on
Aug 1, 2007 11:11 AM EDT
up
0 recs
we really need to make audio sigs a reality
by Red Menace on
Aug 1, 2007 11:14 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Oh, he's very popular Ed.
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 1, 2007 11:15 AM EDT
up
0 recs
FYI
by ctnyc on
Aug 1, 2007 5:37 PM EDT
up
0 recs
in their new park
by Caleb on
Aug 1, 2007 11:31 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Thank you
We should be so thankful that we're paying him 13 mil in this inflated salary age- everyone talks about how Dunn sucks and doesnt do this or that- Guess what- just like Homer Bailey, many Reds fans hyped Dunn to be an Albert Pujols when he wasnt. Im glad we held on to him bc he does everything with the skills he was born with that he can do.
I'll pose another question, this one hypothetical to the anti-Dunn fans: Who would replace Dunn's production had we gotten rid of him?? I know Bruce or Votto is our future but you cant expect that from a prospect immediately.
by tidel144 on
Aug 1, 2007 3:57 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Well that sucks
Heres a deal I was thinking about in the shower this morning. It would have to be completed in the offseaon. I wonder if we could send Jr and Dunn to Seattle and get back Jones, Sexson, and Morrow, maybe a low level prospect. I would think the Mariners might do that deal. They are going to be in contension the next couple of year and could get 2 proven offensive players. We would get a potential superstar outfielder, potential closer in Morrow, and take Sexson off of the Mariners hands. We could then out Sexson at 1st and Votto in left if Bruce isnt ready and if Bruce is ready you see if you can move Sexson for spare parts.
by CamIam on Aug 1, 2007 10:12 AM EDT 0 recs
Personally
by bobestes on
Aug 1, 2007 10:23 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I like it...It shows Dunn cares about something...
by chandrathan on Aug 1, 2007 10:29 AM EDT 0 recs
id like to meet his mom
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 1, 2007 10:58 AM EDT 0 recs
Dunn's Mom
by pw on Aug 1, 2007 11:17 AM EDT 0 recs
He needs his own sitcom
by Red Menace on
Aug 1, 2007 11:26 AM EDT
up
0 recs
He looks like Will Ferrell
by Slyde on
Aug 1, 2007 11:27 AM EDT
up
0 recs
LIAR!!!!
by chandrathan on
Aug 1, 2007 11:34 AM EDT
up
0 recs
you know
by Caleb on Aug 1, 2007 11:32 AM EDT 0 recs
Good for him
by JJ on Aug 1, 2007 12:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Fuck Marty
I don't care if you grew up listening to him; the man actually hurts this team.
by Man Mountain on Aug 1, 2007 12:23 PM EDT 0 recs
Ya hear me?
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 1, 2007 12:26 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I completly agree.
by redlegrulers on
Aug 1, 2007 12:39 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Yep Marty Brennaman is the reason the Reds
That makes sense...
by chandrathan on
Aug 1, 2007 12:42 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Wow
by Pilsner73 on
Aug 1, 2007 1:11 PM EDT
up
0 recs
What?
by Daedalus on
Aug 1, 2007 1:32 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Soon enough, D. Soon enough.
And on a side note, is it common knowledge that the Reds traded jet fuel and nacho profits in order to get the crotchety old goat's crotchety kid?:
Also from Wikipedia: In exchange for allowing Thom to break his contract with the Arizona Diamondbacks, the Reds agreed to travel from Florida to Phoenix to play a series of exhibition games at the end of spring training, beginning in 2008[2](this is in addition to the usual, regularly scheduled National League road games the Reds will play at Chase Field during the regular season).
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 1, 2007 1:40 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Huh?
Weird.
by bobestes on
Aug 1, 2007 1:53 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Gives tHommy More time
The slurping sounds he makes when talking about Counsell is about enough to make ya sick.
by Officer Dibble on
Aug 1, 2007 2:19 PM EDT
up
0 recs
c'mon tHan
I know he is a childhood idol of yours and is baseball to you, but he oversteps the lines of play-by-play protocol and sets himself up as the Reds tinpot dictator.
by Man Mountain on
Aug 1, 2007 2:30 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Notice that my reply wasn't to your post...
by chandrathan on
Aug 1, 2007 3:02 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Thought so
As we've discussed ad nauseum on this site, perception often unduly influences reality, i.e. the Dodgers pay ridiculous money to have Juan Pierre bat lead off, when he is in fact a terrible OBP guy or the Mariners sign Jeff Weaver after pitching well in two fluke games in the post-season for the Cardinals.
When Marty says something like "Dunn absolutely has to be gone after this year" to John Fay during the Cubs game last week, the Reds front office has to answer not only to fan sentiment, but fan sentiment emboldened by the "official voice" of the team.
Marty is a great play-by-play guy, but the short-sightedness of his opinions make me prefer the pleasant inanity of George Grande. That is sad, as Dunn pointed out, but it's true.
by Man Mountain on
Aug 1, 2007 3:52 PM EDT
up
0 recs
That's a good point.
I realize that I am in the minority amongst Reds fandom when it comes to opinions on Marty. And I think that I am in the minority of the minority in that I really don't think Marty is a very good play-by-play announcer. Oh, he's got he's cadence and flow and you're not ever gonna wonder about the count, the outs, the inning or the score. But he rarely provides for me anything about the game that I could not observe by watching the telecast with the sound turned off.
- There are new players being born into the MLB universe every week about whom Marty rarely has anything to tell us. I often learn many things about our boys wearing the wishbone 'C' by listening to Vin Scully (Hallowed be thy name.)when the Reds go way out west.
- For a representative of a small market/free agent-averse team like the Reds, Marty has surprisingly little to ever say about the players in the minor league system. When he does share a farm report it sounds as if he's simply reading something that was just handed to him by some glad-handing yes-man. If he were asked two innings later to summarize what he had read, he might take that annoying quasi-dramatic pause that he takes when he's about to be a complete condescending smug fucking asshole and say, "Now let me tell you something, alright?..."
- Jeff Brantley has not yet figured out how to call a game well but I like him as a "color man" because in one night he'll he gives ya more about "the game within the game" than Marty can in an entire homestand or five. (Listen to an Indians broadcast sometime if you don't think a play-by-play man can do better than "He hit a 2-2 pitch.")
Right. I'm usually pretty cool with allowing everyone to have their own opinion and I try to recognize that as strongly as I may believe something, it is very often "just my opinion". About 85-89% of the time I can get with "To each his own." But if your opinion is that the Volkswagen Cabriolet is not necessarily a "chick car" but that it's so much more- It's a sylish Euro-design built for the young and fun loving set, well, I've got two words for you:
It's a fucking chick car, dude.
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 1, 2007 11:25 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Reminds me of an old Kris Kristoferson song..
If I look like a mean old man thats what I am
If I look like a mean old man
Wholl do you any way he can
To break your heart and kiss your hand
Thats what I am
And if I look like a good old friend thats what I am
If I look like a good old friend thats what I am
If I look like a good old friend
Whos good at bending with the wind
To be your friend right to the end
Thats what I am
Chorus:
And if I look like a voodoo doll thats what I am
If I look like a voodoo doll thats what I am
If I look like a voodoo doll
Who takes his licking standing tall
Whod rather bite you back than crawl
Thats what I am
If I look like your uncle bob thats what I am
If I look like your uncle bob thats what I am
If I look like your uncle bob
Who likes to slap you on the back and rob you
While he still can do the job
Thats what I am
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 2, 2007 12:34 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Wow this could get real ugly, real quick
by Zach K on Aug 1, 2007 2:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Also I felt as though that comment was senseless..
by Zach K on Aug 1, 2007 3:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Why is it incumbent on Dunn
by Man Mountain on
Aug 1, 2007 3:39 PM EDT
up
0 recs
It is not professional
by Zach K on
Aug 1, 2007 4:25 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I agree it's not the smartest thing to do
by Red Menace on
Aug 1, 2007 5:11 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I was going to post
I feel like Michael to Marty's Adam Dunn. I think he's a prick about my favorite player, and I can't stand him. A misinformed, benighted prick.
Dunn has been good-natured and forgiving with the media for 5 years. He finally said something provocative and it will probably mean his walking papers.
by Man Mountain on
Aug 1, 2007 5:53 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Yeah exactly that is why i'm surprised
by Zach K on
Aug 1, 2007 7:04 PM EDT
up
0 recs
When has Marty even hinted at liking Dunn?
by Geki on
Aug 2, 2007 5:13 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I think it's quite relevant.
For a big, stupid donkey, Adam Dunn actually pulled a bit of media jujitsu here worthy of most political candidates. Instead of saying that he hates Marty, Thom and Brantley, he can say that his mom hates them. If he had said he hated them, it would have made him sound petty and overly sensitive. Instead, he says his mom hates them, and it makes Marty, Thom and Brantley sound like mean and nasty guys for beating up on poor old momma Dunn and making the broadcast unlistenable for her.
Not bad for a big, stupid donkey who lacks "savvy," huh? Remember that his is the guy who came up with "Adam from Milwaukee"...
by Paul Householder on
Aug 1, 2007 5:21 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Amen.
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 1, 2007 6:21 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Really? that's an interesting way to put it.
by Zach K on
Aug 1, 2007 7:12 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I can't believe you don't think Marty is hard on
Marty is the worst about it, in my opinion. You can say it's just Marty being Marty, but then I think that's exactly Man Mountain's point. Marty being Marty is Marty unnecessarily going after Dunn (and others) and rarely giving them credit when they do something well. He's got his favorite players, he's got the players he doesn't like, and never the twain shall meet.
by Slyde on
Aug 1, 2007 9:21 PM EDT
up
0 recs
As you said
He does give other players a hard time but I really hear tHom and Jeff go after Dunn more than they do any other player on the team. If you think he does thats cool, I haven't listened to the games as much this year because i just got cable this year :}
by Zach K on
Aug 1, 2007 9:50 PM EDT
up
0 recs
If Dunn goes to a big media market...
by Geki on
Aug 2, 2007 5:21 AM EDT
up
0 recs
True dat
Funny thing is, he comes up with exactly the sort of one-liners that make old baseball coots faun over the wise-cracking players of yesteryear like Dizzy Dean.
by Man Mountain on
Aug 2, 2007 3:10 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I know the guy
by Pops Daniels on Aug 1, 2007 3:11 PM EDT 0 recs
That was
by Pops Daniels on
Aug 1, 2007 10:01 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Why wouldn't his family react thusly:
Marty is Marty, but the other two THom and Cowbutt do not have the love of the fans. For what it is worth my Mother and her friends are also fed up with the Radio announcers. Remember that my Mom is 96, her boyfriend Lloyd is 104 and they both are 'aggravated' by how Marty "plays favorites".(There is a big time following of baseball by seniors and they'd like a winner too.) Too bad Marty isn't big enough to back off Dunn a bit, or even refer to the fact that maybe he's (Marty) been frustrated with Adam and st times been a little too hard on him...NOT...I applaud Dunn for speaking up. Fuck these guys in the booth - They don't need to be homers to be appreciative of the good things Dunn and EDE do.
by Madville on Aug 1, 2007 5:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Amen, Adam.
by Brian B on Aug 1, 2007 9:55 PM EDT 0 recs
Well I've news for you
As former Atty Gen of the US I know more than you people, so just shut the fuck up and listen to Marty. Who do you think gave George Grande the partial lobotomy....
by JohnAshcroft on
Aug 2, 2007 12:44 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Anything from the booth last night?
by JJ on Aug 2, 2007 9:55 AM EDT 0 recs
That's just lazy...
by chandrathan on
Aug 2, 2007 10:04 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I didn't catch the game..
by Fat Vegas Alan on
Aug 2, 2007 10:18 AM EDT
up
0 recs
who wants to start
by TheDude on Aug 2, 2007 2:03 PM EDT 0 recs
I would join a 'Fire Thom Brenneman Club'
Marty is arrogant and lost his passion, Thom is obnoxious and so obvious in his commentary, boring, and also arrogant.
by Madville on
Aug 2, 2007 6:59 PM EDT
up
0 recs





