Game Thread: Game 102 vs. the Brewers

BREWERS PROBABLE: REDS PROBABLE:
Dave Bush (8-8, 4.83) Bobby Livingston (2-1, 3.52)
I would have been pretty excited about a David Weathers for Will Inman trade. There's no reason Krivsky couldn't at least approach what the Padres got for Linebrink with Weathers, but my guess is Weathers will remain with the team. Why I'm not entirely sure as it makes a ton of sense to trade him when his value is as high as it could ever be.
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Weathers
But boy, will this team be hard to watch without him. They might never get out of the 8th inning. ![]()
2nd!
I wonder
You are talking about our GM right? ha! nice one..
Separated at birth
ERA W L SV GS GF CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO
KL: 4.58 6 12 0 21 0 2 1 131.7 143 76 67 16 33 80
BA: 4.58 4 11 0 21 0 1 0 131.7 146 74 67 13 45 93
Whoa
Maybe that can be an effective marketing strategy: "Take Lohse, he's just as good as Arroyo!"
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Wonder who we will see
I would like to see Herr up here...
Prediction
Good News everyone!
I am really suprised Juan is back. Just two days ago there was a story on Reds.com saying Juan's elbow could take about 15 throws before getting real sore to the point he couldn't throw. They were going to give it a couple more days to react before giving him Tommy John surgery to end his season. Maybe this is just for an emergency situation for the next few days until Alex Gonzalez gets back.... The Reds didn't really have room on the 40-Man to bring up an infielder.
By my count
So Castro can't throw. I guess that means he'll be used mainly as a pinch hitter. Frankly, I'd rather see Enrique Cruz.
Warning to New Red Reporters
However, "Cruz" Google-ing can be fun.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Is anyone else
Aaron Harang is pretty good.
Alex Gonzalez will show you some magic tricks now and again.
Ken Griffey Jr is pretty darn good too.
And even though I think that Adam Dunn kid is the one who filled the teacher's lounge toilet with bleach and ammonia, he is a pretty good home run hitter.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I enjoy
I'm with ya. It'll happen. (I think.)
The dog days will pass. And then the rosters will expand...
Try to remember the kind of September
When you were a tender and callow fellow.
Try to remember, and if you remember,
Then follow.
Follow, follow, follow, follow...
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
Yes.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Trade rumors
- It's beginning to look as if the Cincinnati Reds' Jeff Conine will retire after this season.
Conine, 41, has played reasonably well for the Reds - .254, five home runs, 26 RBI in 177 at-bats going into Wednesday night's game.
"As of right now, I'm leaning toward this being my final season," he said.
Source: Cincinnati Enquirer
- The New York Yankees are very interested in finding some help for their bullpen before next Tuesday's deadline.
Among the possibilities are: Eric Gagne of the Texas Rangers, Chad Cordero of the Washington Nationals, and Octavio Dotel of the Kansas City Royals.
The Yanks may also go after David Weathers of the Cincinnati Reds, Salomon Torres of the Pittsburgh Pirates, or Dan Wheeler of the Houston Astros.
Source: Newark Star-Ledger
- It appears that future Hall of Famer Ken Griffey Jr. will not be leaving the Cincinnati Reds in the near future.
Several major league scouts say the team is not offering Griffey in any trade talks, and if Reds GM Wayne Krivsky is trying to deal Griffey by the July 31 deadline, he hasn't asked Griffey or his agent, Brian Goldberg, for permission.
Source: Dayton Daily News
Hey, those aren't trade rumors!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Conine, shut up
Alright, so Conine's probably out. They haven't shown any inclination to trade Weathers. Hatte's played well recently, so it seems like they want to keep him rather than trade him while his value is high (I'm still not sure why the Yanks don't at least want to take a look at him). Lohse - who knows? At least he got the win last night. Griffey's staying put, which is the right move (although I'd be open to moving him in the offseason).
So there's not really any action at all on the guys we should trade. That leaves the possibility of Dunn (lucky to get $0.50 on the dollar back for him) or Edwin getting traded. I'm hoping that enough teams are well-stocked at third that they won't want him. Or maybe Krivsky will have a "Saul on the road to Damascus" moment and realize that he's actually got something valuable on his hands with EdE.
I am NOT looking forward to the trade deadline. Call me pessimistic, but I just see Wayner blowing it, no matter what he does.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Dotel?
I am not kidding you
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I am.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven't done this in awhile...
Castro activated for emergency only
Broken cheek bone for Lopez -- no surgery
Hamilton hopes to start swinging in a week
Hatteberg 1b
Freel cf
Griffey rf
Phillips 2b
Dunn lf
Keppinger ss
EE. 3b
Valentin c
Livingston p
Also, Eddie Guardado will pitch in Louisville on Saturday.
Brewers
Weeks 2b
Hardy ss
Braun 3b
Hall cf
Mench lf
Hart rf
Graffanino 1b
Miller c
Bush p
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad Dunn is not hitting 4th again
Apparently
- Hatty
- Kepp
- Jr
- Dunn
- Phillips
- EDE
- Freel
- Ross
- Pitcher
I could go for that
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
On that Lineup Generator
But what I'm saying is that while I'd rather see Dunn bat higher, i'm vaguely ok/not too pissed off with fifth. It's really sixth that gets my goat.
Oh, that was YOUR goat? My bad.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
that lineup generator
What it does show is that, if their stats are to be believed, lineups really don't matter. The perfect lineup vs. the worst lineup usually ends up being a tenth or hundredth of a run difference per game, or something along those lines.
If that's true, I think it's reasonable to put players where they're comfortable, and stick with it. If Griffey wants to bat third, let him bat third. Every day.
My bad about the number three hitter
Also, I think I got an almost .3 run/game difference between the 'optimal' and current lineup. That's over 45 runs a season - which could be four games. If we won four more games last season...
Maybe we're using different lineup generators.
Lineup Game!!
- Fratty
- Dunn
- Phillips
- Junya
- Get ridio of Elipdio
- Keppinger
- Freel
- Ross
- Pitcher
But as we say, it don't matter.
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
My lineup
- Hatteberg
- Hopper
- Ross
- Freel
- Phillips
- Keppinger
- Dunn
- Junior
Flip Hatte and Ross
You're right
Bat Livingston leadoff
Livingston can also pitch both left and right-handed.
That could be interesting, if he did it in the same game instead of different games.
So what's the consensus on Freel
I saw one of his ABs last night..
And I think he played three positions last night which means he woke up this morning feeling extra scrappy.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing yes too
There's the lineup.
Except for the sign that C. Trent
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Former Red
Thanks for taking me to Deion who took me..
This is classic Prime Time: "Some people dress their dogs in suits more expensive than mine, if you can believe that."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess dog fighting is just something...
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'z ate a chzbooger.
Now I'z having a smoke.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to get too heavy
In my experience, african americans are far more ambivalent about dogs and are often leery of them. And if you think about it, it makes complete sense. Dogs--particularly attack dogs--have been used to hunt and terrorize blacks in the South for hundreds of years. They are more apt to see dogs as violent animals than as lovable pets.
I think that's why a number of players were initially clueless as to what the big deal was. In certain pockets of our society, it just isn't.
However, now that the electricution and gallows stuff is emerging, I'm not sure why anyone wants to step forward and defend him.
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Electrocution and gallows?
But I'm with you on that stuff. There are definitely cultural differences at play here.
Cultural Differences matter none...
by chandrathan on Jul 26, 2007 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
But they are chasing the wrong villians...
And then of course, much easier to find and prove guilt....hey, that's a pit bull...here's your ticket.
That's a slippery slope.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear ya.
But regarding Deion's decision to get in Vick's huddle- I just don't get it. But I guess if you're a semi-retired national celebrity who hasn't yet settled into the reality television circuit, you might holla just about any old opinion if the Fort Myers News-Press asks you to.
BTW, I have a silly, goofy and moderately well trained family dog that happens to be big and black with brown markings a la Rottweiller/Doberman and we get nervous looks and cautious comments every time we cruise through the park near the basketball courts. I understand that for some families the family dog is not earning its keep by just playing fetch and keeping feet warm on the couch.
BTW, Man Mountain, I was genuinely interested in the animal cruelty book you mentioned some time ago. What's it called?
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Good points
If you're hands were made of gold
I've met him
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wondering...
by chandrathan on Jul 26, 2007 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
I got my ticket to the concert tonight...
by chandrathan on Jul 26, 2007 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You are always there for me...
by chandrathan on Jul 26, 2007 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Congrats!
Yes, there are still some available...
I'm pretty darn excited!
by chandrathan on Jul 26, 2007 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Jan is enjoying this game.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I get the "If you have to ask" thing
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna call that a "love seat."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Selfish bastard.
I thought you had B-R PI?
Lee May also hit 34 in 1970. In 1956, Robinson (38), Post (36), and Klu (35) all hit 30 HR.
Who are Marty and tHom
BTW, I've got the FSN feed with the radio call. Odd.
Freel almost ran into
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
On the bright side
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Marty doesn't think Dunn will be here
Does Marty
Doesn't need to
and baseball
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on, Edwin!
His pitch efficiency is tremendous though
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn
Maybe that's what Bud was up to..
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Top the order
I say we'll at least get Hatte in
At least 1
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Griffey!
Totally
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure there's nothing to it...
Yeah, I just heard about that
I saw it on a web site.
I heard it on "Sporting News Radio."
Hear the one about Tina?
Some say she's much too loose
That came straight from a guy
who claims he's tastin' her juice.
Hear the one about Michael?
Some say he must be gay.
I try to argue, but they said
if he was straight he wouldn't move that way.
Hear the one about Susan?
Some say she's just a tease
In a camisole she's six feet tall
she'll knock you to your knees
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Settle down, Bobby
Unclenching
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Still thinking of England...

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the white box with red x
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
bloody cheek
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It was suposed to represent..
But flags are cool too.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds good
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
And
by Pops Daniels on Jul 26, 2007 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't you get the impression
(take it away, alan)
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he wanted something revolutionary.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
tripod
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Just know
-A friend
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I was legitmately excited about that
by Bill Simmons on Jul 26, 2007 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Dadgummit.

My apologies. I am sure that at least one of ya'll is disappointed.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that avant garde or something?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm surprised
Jerry would have.
Alright Bobby
tHom just called Bush's slider
Ask boobs.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
tHom doesn't know
any word yet on Ross?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 26, 2007 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah
It's like...
Well, it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
jk lol
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 26, 2007 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's going to be playing this weekend
so its not too serious?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 26, 2007 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
dislocated pinky
sounds good. thanks.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 26, 2007 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dislocated knuckle
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he plans to catch tomorrow
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish there were
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i laughed at that one
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
get my message?
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Is your secretary
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
How about this from Will Carroll
That's news to the Reds, I think.
According to Kyle earlier in the thread...
I'm proud of myself for criticizing him last night
Besides, if I had waited until today I would have been wrong.
A bit of an Ego now eh? :}
Dear Mr. Scott Hatteberg,
The "Junior Needs a Cycle Fund" could use a triple, Mr. Hatteberg.
Sincerely,
Junior Needs a Cycle Fund
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Might be too much to ask
Marty and THom love Jeff K
Did you guys see Kremchek last night
That he diagnosed
by Pops Daniels on Jul 26, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And now I must apologize for my huge spirit.
I deleted it, not because it was so big
I was wondering why
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's up again. I Ashcrofted it.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If Jeff K gets a hit here...
I'm still shocked
They didn't mind
Seriously though, good job Kepp. Two big hits in two games.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Call me crazy and push me down in the mud...
He seems to have a lot of tidbits that indicate he's poking around and doing some sort of research and preparation for each series.
I'm sure that he's always gonna be a loudmouth know-it-all and he's always gonna remind us of the '67 Diamonbacks or whatever but he did read Moneyball.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I half hope he doesn't
by JJ on Jul 26, 2007 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You weren't lying
Let's go, Scrappy!
funny how Bowden's philosophy is still here
by JJ on Jul 26, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
As reds fans we have no right to talk...
BALLPLAYER THERE!
Jeff K! Whoo
damn
Apparently Marty thinks you are not allowed to hit HR on 0-2 counts.
damn striaght, once you get to 0-2 you give up...
Or a man
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Christ, Braun is good
by Bill Simmons on Jul 26, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Bill! I still have yet to listen to your podcast..
Couldn't agree more
Plain White T's-- I haven't been this legitimately excited about a band since Saigon Kick played the Watertown community center in 1991.
by Bill Simmons on Jul 26, 2007 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well then a tribute to you...
have you heard about that team in New York City
they are 6.5 games behind your Sox
and it doesn't look too pretty
No it doesn't"
...thats the song by them right...
THom is great
I gotta say
They are hitting him pretty hard
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He's bulldoggin' it.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I was worried
He is the Opposite of Matt B!
Ryan Freel is a rally killer
I predict
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
2 k's in a game for Hatte
Now THAT'S faith in your bench
Heh
But really, who of Hopper, Conine, Moeller, Castro would you pick to hit over Livingston?
I agree
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
tHom is ANGRY!!!!!
wow
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think fisting
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It always does in the Queen City
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
lovely start to the 6th
or the 7th
by JJ on Jul 26, 2007 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They're not booing
I was saying Sarloooooooooos
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
What is he doing on a major league roster?
Bring up the Lizard.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
the lizard!
Okay
I don't quite get it.
Oh I see.
Good move.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
Saarloos
Not so fast
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone seen Wet Hot American Summer?
"Actually, it's closer to ...8.19?"
"You're joking. I mean you've got to be, you're Kirk Saarloos. Oh. You are a loser! A loser! ...a loser."
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait for me Abby Bernstein
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
Like I've said before, if you just took that Watergate thing out of the Nixon presidency, it would look much, much better.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
ahem
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Put it this way
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I'd recognize
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!!!!
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, good it's Coffey
BOHICA
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
I think
"Livingston is now adjusting his cup. He's using a new cup today, so I'm guessing he's a little chafed."
JJ Hardy is the 07 Jack Wilson
Good grief
Todd Coffey
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Braun to Coffey
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna toss this one up to Michael
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Under Coffey's wing are only..

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we have Johnny Estrada
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
No need, citizen
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
THom just go in the dugout and comfort Bobby
thank cool god for Kepp
The Brewers will go down...
I see the Cubs winning the Central by 3-5 games.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Don't forget the '52 Maple Leafs.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously though
Capuano,Bush and Suppan are .500 pitchers
Sheets is very good, but who knows if he will be healthy to pitch the post season.
The 05 Astros had Clemens, Andy P and Oswalt
The 06 Cardinals had Chris Carpenter and suddley got CY young pitchers in Jeff Weaver and Jeff Suppan...I hate how lucky they got with the mets and tigers last year...ugh it still burns
wow 2005! two whole years ago!
It's not like the Cards looked like World Champions last year.
Oh. Wait...
haha I think you can also say
omg no you didnt!
Oh no he didn't!!!!
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck the heck man?
alrighty then!
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck the heck
Why did I not get the memo?
here ygo
Ah
I thought maybe it was a new single from High School Musical 2.
fuck the heck
Read www.firejoemorgan.com
Reader Lazarus sends us to SI.com's Power Rankings, where we find this gem:
Joe Torre met with George Steinbrenner for a nice lunch in Tampa the other day, and I'm sure at some point the subject probably turned to the Yankees. And George, I'd bet, at some point looked at his manager and said, "#$!&@* the heck?"
I assume they meant to write: "What the #$!&@?" But they didn't. They wrote "#$!&@ the heck?"
Or, presumably: "Fuck the heck?"
Steinbrenner really is in poor health, if he is saying "Fuck the heck." That is not a phrase.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask, and ye shall receive
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No memo
"Idioms
Reader Lazarus sends us to SI.com's Power Rankings, where we
find this gem:
Joe Torre met with George Steinbrenner for a nice lunch in Tampa the other day, and I'm sure at some point the subject probably turned to the Yankees. And George, I'd bet, at some point looked at his manager and said, "#$!&@* the heck?"
I assume they meant to write: "What the #$!&@?" But they didn't. They wrote "#$!&@ the heck?"
Or, presumably: "Fuck the heck?"
Steinbrenner really is in poor health, if he is saying "Fuck the heck." That is not a phrase."
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
A Hex on All you Fucks
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven't you got a lot of stuff to paint?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
no, "you" do
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and your nails
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people have too much time on their hands.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can think of
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Were you in my dreams last night?
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Dream Police, sir
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad thing
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the tub making toast.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
I was going to get one when I was wandering around best buy last week, but they're still a little out of my price range.
holy shit
What was the last?
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
fecal olympics
Hey! I got tickets to the Fecal Olympics tonight!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
where were they released?
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me know
by Pops Daniels on Jul 26, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
nicely
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So I did some digging...
"I don't feel like I'm the problem," Saarloos said. "They need to find answers and I don't feel like I'm the problem. Three bad innings this year - (Sunday), St. Louis (on April 25) and L.A. (on May 13)."Saarloos allowed 11 earned runs on 11 hits and walked four in the three appearances that totaled just one-third of an inning. Subtract those outings from his overall numbers and Saarloos would be 0-1 with a 2.78 ERA.
Uh, right. Here are his lines since he was called back up:
IP H ER
0.2 0 0
0.1 0 0
2 1 1
2.2 4 0
1 2 3
0 5 4
0 1 1
Jeff K! Clutch Double Play!
As opposed to
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone know...
I wonder if Bill Hall
haha god i can't wait till bonds is convicted!
Nice job Coffey.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
If this were golf, we would win
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even a little teeny bit?
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that is a little teeny bit
by JJ on Jul 26, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Bill Hall +8th Inning....not a good way to start
Open your eyes
ironically, no
Possibly
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
umm
day game after a night game
Skip gave you a full week of rest!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
wait
EdE getting plunked again
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm missed that.
Do you think Pete
Bray and the magik man doing well in triple A!
Well the good news is....
was that a hit-and-run?
Sarloos will be done after today!
Yes, how did you know?
saarloos will be dunn after today?
messed up shit man, messed up shit.
I wonder how Michael...
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd set up a Dunn-fighting ring
That's inhumane.
2 Dunns in the lineup
by JJ on Jul 26, 2007 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
probably merge them into one person
Erstad was a punter
Is that Tressel Ball?
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
did you cross the ocean from England
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
gotcha
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
ohh. i just blurted out
Jeremy Irons is usually pretty high on that list for whatever reason.
Jeremy Irons is the first thing
I think his agent would be touched to know that.
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
This is good to know.
I take eye candy requests, donchaknow?

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
well. for future reference
- Christian Bale
- Clive Owen
- Paul Bettany
- Johnny Depp
- ... James Marsden.
I'll try to remember that.
Paul Giamatti and Johnny ...Fever?

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Question for the anglophile:
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Living in KY, I realize that comes as a shock
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yes it's used that way
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to a Nats-Brewers game a couple weeks ago
hahahahahaha
His iddy-biddy hands
Saaaaarlooooooser
by Pops Daniels on Jul 26, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who hits for the Pitcher?
If it's a lefty, Hopper.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when
Goddamn reply button
by Pops Daniels on Jul 26, 2007 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Two, two, two double plays in one!
is Coutlangus batting for himself
Uhhh
No.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
NoHO!
GameDay says
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gamedays all jacked up
tie ball game!
Now is the time...
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
Woo hoo!
Word up
fuck i hate gameday right now...
Walking Jr.
whats going on????
Hatte on 2nd, Griff on first
Hopper
Hatteberg singled to plate Hopper.
Freel bunted Hatte to 2nd.
Junior walked intentionally.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit, DP
Wait, Freel bunted Hatteberg to second?
Beats me.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I could really go for some Skyline right now
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but no beer, right?
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta holla at my Wicca.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Duh, it keeps you out of the double play
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Now who pitches?
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
I haven't been posting today
at least you've got things in perspective
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thalidomide..
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Other better choices:
Screaming racial epithets in downtown Detroit
Another better choice...
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
im watching espn's
care to elaborate?
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
wingo calls it a "dramatic development"
who's more now than Roger Cosack?
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
pedro gomez, for one
what ahout right...now?
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
wow do i feel a lot better about extras
heading to the car
damnit Dunn
trade him now
Wow someone almost called that
we have clutchy at the plate!
That sure was lazy and lackadaisical.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Good Golly
Go Dunn.
Fuck the heck, bunting??!!!
Suck it, Braun
Yeah Edwin!
Fireworks!!!
latin lovehandles machine!
Javy again!!!!!!!
Way to go LLM.
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
That was cool
i liked that a lot too
La Machina
Now we get to knock the Cubs around some
sweeping the cubs
pretty strange team right now
Two of those three in New York...
I can't remember how or why they lost in Miami. (Belisle, I presume?)
But aside from that series in Miami, this team is playing like a talented if flawed team built to contend in a weak division.
Thanks Jerry.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Florida
My apologies to the Belisle family.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't hear their comments..
But he's gotta keep spraying air freshener to try to keep the old man from poking around in his sock drawer.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun game
or Dunn
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
or junior
Or Burton
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Junior played like a ball player today.
That short-timer?
He already wore pinstripes
by Brendanukkah on Jul 26, 2007 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just kidding

i think something inside of me just died
Do you have pain in your Ab-Dunn-men?
Seriously its going to suck if he ends up as a Yankee.
Sounds like your kidney
So how long...
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
(Easy bonus points)
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Saarloos
Graffanino tied it with his solo homer in the seventh off Kirk Saarloos, who has allowed the last 10 batters he faced to reach safely -- eight hits, a walk and a hit batter.
Saarloos
The problem with his G/F being...
yeah
Wow. That was a really long delay for a really stupid joke.
hey alan
http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=268335
very surprising.
Wow.
Pressure. All day. Every day.
And if you slip or misstep somewhere- everybody knows it.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Prosser
RIP
by Man Mountain on Jul 26, 2007 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
This is very shocking!
Game Summary
Extra 15% off to Every RR when we win in a comeback
'Pears taht Burton continues to fine ways to win
Kepp driving in Runs.
Thom hearts Dunn
Marty is thinking of moving to Arizona
Reds Win
8 wins - 7 losses as the home
so Flat Venal Alan what do I win if we win 10 ?
11?
For you, Madville...
I'll include a lil' gif or jpeg representing your store in my signature.
Either that or you can have my place-holding wristband good for a ride on the Becky Thatcher with 'Nukkah's mom.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Boobs...
My two year-old turned me on to it.
Very disturbing.
Whoops!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
the first link
The first link is the deepest.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Very disturbing indeed
by Paul Householder on Jul 26, 2007 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah..
Waht are you gonna do?
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Votto has homered twice
The Bats are spanking the Yankees tonight.
Marcus McBeth has been placed on the inactive list. His pregnant wife has been hospitalized. Not sure if it's for a routine delivery or if there's a problem.
I just have to say...
Hmmmmm....
Apparently, it was "at the request of the Reds."
I was just coming here to mention that
I'm glad Votto has started hitting as well. He's quietly been pretty awful for most of July, but it looks like he's busting out of that. I'm having a really hard time figuring out what to expect from him in the majors. Stats say he'll be damn good, but he has holes in his game in that his contact rates aren't great, he's not good against lefties, and his power production is pretty inconsistent. Scouting reports on him are mixed, and I've heard some scouts flat out say he won't hit in the majors. The limited at-bats of his I've seen have left me just as confused, as one time up he'll rip a line drive and the next he'll look lost at the plate and strike out on three pitches. I get the feeling there's gonna be a period of adjustment with him.
Bruce had another two hits in the Bats game, one of them a double. He's on a six game hitting streak right now with six extra base hits in that span, and his OPS is up near 1.000. At this point, I don't see any reason at all why he would be sent back down to AA, other than the fact that our GM is a moron.
And the final note from Louisville is that Chris Dickerson hit for the cycle tonight, getting his double with two outs in the ninth. I've never been high on him, but I think he'll probably get the call if Dunn is shipped out. I think he'll probably hit about .240 in the majors, but he can take a walk, has a little bit of pop, and has great speed and defensive ability. He has some value off the bench.
I like the sound of that...
Saarlos demoted to the minors.
Dumatrait holding Homer's spot in the rotation.
Here's what I see when I take a quick look at our new #4 on TheBaseballCube.com:
- 6'2" 170 (skinny guy) lefty from the streets of Bakersfield
- Duquette drafted him in the first round of the 2000 draft and then Theo later traded him to the Reds for Scott Williamson.
- He gives up a lot of hits (8+ H/9 w/ 1.36 WHIP)
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Dumatrait
Unrelated..
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2006/10/2008_mlb_free_a.html
The 'Stros must have had plans...
Soooo... my next question- Should a team like the Reds consider Jennings too expensive and too much of an injury risk?
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that he's too expensive or too risky
If I'm spending money on a free agent starter, I'm going all out and taking a run at Zambrano. He's the only guy out there I can see being worth the money he'll get. I think we need to take a run at him, go after the unknown Japanese pitcher with a good reputation in Koji Uehara, or take the Jocketty approach and sign someone less appreciated like Joe Kennedy and hope he pans out. My ultimate preference is to move Junior for a decent starter, plug that person in the rotation next year, and then use the money that frees up to extend Dunn. I think Bruce should be ready by the middle of next year and very possibly the beginning of next year, and he could potentially fill in one of the outfield spots. And if we don't believe he's ready, there are a lot of solid free agent outfielders.
Also, on his weight,
"Hey Jay, check this out."
"Aww, c'mon man. Do it! Take the phone you big pussy!"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 26, 2007 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Other Reds minor league news
In Sarasota, Chris Valaika went 4-5 to extend his hitting streak to eight games, though his average is still only at .238 because of his horrible start.
In Dayton, Wayner waiver-wire pick-up Alexander Smit, a lefty claimed off of the Twins known for very good stuff with very poor control, made his third start in the Reds organization, allowing 8 baserunners and 4 runs (1 earned) in 4 innings, with only one strikeouts. Still, his ERA in Dayton is just 2.45, and I have to give Krivsky credit for making the pick-up. Another no risk, high reward move, though the reward is obviously much further away then Phillips and Hamilton were.
And in rookie ball, Neftali Soto had a double and two walks to go with his first steal of the season, and last year's third round pick Justin Reed, who struggled mightily in his pro debut, brought his average up to .309 and stole his 8th and 9th bases of the year. He's showing great athleticism and a good eye at the plate, a welcome improvement from last year.

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