Reds wouldn't discuss trading Hatteberg

by sledridge on Jul 21, 2007 3:57 PM EDT Comment 31 comments

Yep, you read that right.

From Gammons' Blog: "There is a lot of action on Kyle Lohse," says one scout of the Reds RHP. "He's always been a tease, but he's viewed as a big arm that could click." Cincinnati is reluctant to even discuss trading David Weathers or Scott Hatteberg, who would have been perfect for the Yankees had they been willing to discuss him.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=gammons_peter

We all knew about Lohse. And I thought we all knew trading Hatteberg was a foregone conclusion, if they could get someone to agree to the right deal. But, I would have never thought that they wouldn't trade Hatteberg.

How does keeping him make sense? The Reds need to give up the smoke-blowing about still being in the thick of things. They can't get back into the playoff race. (at least with the current crew as it stands) And with Votto ready, Hatteberg on this team beyond this year doesn't make sense.

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Gammons makes no sense

I don't buy any of this. Maybe Gammons misunderstood when Wayne said "I'm not discussing Hatteberg with you, Peter."

by Brian B on Jul 21, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

when he said "wouldnt discuss," that was my impression, too. The Reds have already said htat everyone is on the block except harang, phillips, hamilton, a-gon.. and maybe one or two others. but not hatteberg.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 21, 2007 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gonzalez

Why is Alex Gonzalez not on the block? Because we don't have another MLB-ready SS in the pipeline?

by Brian B on Jul 21, 2007 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe because of his contract?

"Always root for the winner. That way you won't be disappointed." -Tug McGraw

by Zach K on Jul 21, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dunno

im sure janish's defense would run circles around sea bass's. If a player's defense had legs, that is.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 21, 2007 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if...

... running circles around another player's defense was a sure way to exhibit superiority.

Boobs, if I met you on the street and ran circles around you, would you recognize me as superior to you or would you think, "Who is this nutjob and why is he running circles around me and when will he stop?"

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 21, 2007 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

where the hell did that phrase come from? the circus?

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 21, 2007 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my roommate thinks boxing

that sounds like it might be right

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 21, 2007 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or track.

"Look at those 1600 meter relay dudes running circles around all the shot putters and pole vaulters."

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 21, 2007 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or warfare

like when the romans ran circles around the carthaginians in gladiator.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 21, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boobs, do you like movies about gladiators?

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 21, 2007 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's Malibu.

by Geki on Jul 21, 2007 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude..

..I hurt for you.

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 21, 2007 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At first I was impressed (and scared)

that you knew that. Then I saw his name was on his shorts. Either way, that's a glorious flowing mane of hair.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 21, 2007 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

On his ... shorts. There it is. On his shorts.

Dude, I hurt for you.

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 21, 2007 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you were Wayne Krivsky...

...and you knew that your Return on Trade Percentage was a measly .239 (compared to Billy Beane's league-leading RTP of 1.156) wouldn't you also be "reluctant to even discuss trading David Weathers or Scott Hatteberg"?

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 21, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ah, but

does Wayne Krivsky have the proper self-knowledge to recognize his own weaknesses? Or does he conflate "self-knowledge" with the juvenile/Miyagi-esque "wax off"?

...it's a homonym.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 21, 2007 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Conine and Hatteberg (especially Conine)

are still on this team come August 1st, I'll be pissed.

On another note, when did people decide Conine was having a good season? He's sucked pretty hard this year, in my opinion.

by Geki on Jul 21, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Get ready to be pissed

because i have a feeling that the reds won't make any trades this season.

"Always root for the winner. That way you won't be disappointed." -Tug McGraw

by Zach K on Jul 21, 2007 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone sucks pretty hard for you

Just saying.

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by Daedalus on Jul 21, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last month...

...I'd have said that Hatteberg was a good fit for the Yanks. Now...I'm not so sure. They called up Andy Phillips, and he's doing great. And he's right-handed. They may not need to trade for a first baseman after all. I'm kind of hoping they don't, actually, because I like Andy.

OTOH, he went on a hot streak last year, too, then turned stone cold as they started to scout him. So they may think he can't maintain this pace.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 21, 2007 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

if hatteberg is a red on aug. 1st

im going to organize one of those rogue militias you always see on dateline and go after wayner "mullet aught-six" style.

Barry Larkin is better than 10 super bowls put together

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 21, 2007 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

A different view....

If the Reds really are going to let Krivsky go at the end of the season and go after Jocketty, could it be that Krivsky's hands are tied by ownership so that he doesn't do anything foolish before getting the boot?

by jch24 on Jul 21, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

which would mean

that we've wasted an opportunity to improve our team for the future. I really hope that's not the case.

by Blue on Jul 21, 2007 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope it's not true

But if this team doesn't make any trades, I'm gonna wonder.

by jch24 on Jul 21, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if this is true, what is the point of Krivsky?

That would be a horrible indictment of Castellini as owner - retain a GM that you don't want making trades? Awful.

"428 feet of man." ~ Jim Day, creepily reliving a Chris Duncan home run.

by Ash on Jul 21, 2007 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would think if that were true

Bob would fire Krivsky and install an interim GM. Maybe Kullman would comeback, since he is this teams interim GM, and maybe he could find another Aaron Harang.

by justin0070000 on Jul 22, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i wont be too upset

if there are no trades. we'll get draft compensation if hatteberg and/or lohse walk. if they go, great. if they dont, it's not the end of the world.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 21, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think we've got a team option for next year

on Hatteberg. And it's only for like 1.8 million. I see no reason why we wouldn't use that.

"Give them this: they never let the fact that only half of what they posted was funny stop them from posting still more." - Rastronomicals

by chandrathan on Jul 21, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I won't be surprised if:

Conine is still around.
But I will be surprised if Hatteberg is not traded.There are better fish in the sea for contenders who are looking to find a right handed bat off the bench than Conine. Hatteberg still has a couple of years left in him and he's cheap - somebody will pick him up. If not then maybe Krivsky will do something really stupid and trade Votto for a broken down starter and an injured reliever to be name later.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see Edwin Inconception traded.
However at this point in time there is a really good chance that not a whole at all will be done as Wayne is hoping against hope that Bray and Eddie G. will soon be back and somehow things will work out.
Surprise us Wayne and do something exceptional - It is your job - so do it.

Captain Oveur: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? Joey, have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

by Madville on Jul 21, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs