A Question of Baseball Ethics, No. 2

by bobestes on Jun 1, 2007 12:37 PM EDT Comment 26 comments

Today's question of baseball ethics is:

Isn't it "part of the deal" when most ballplayers get married that they'll sleep around and be manwhores on road trips and such, so long as they don't:

A) Transmit an STD
B) Father a child out of wedlock or
C) Publicly flaunt said infidelities?

I've always assumed that most players' wives know their husbands are sleeping around, but enjoy the perks of being a player's wife far too much to raise much of a stink.

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if they're friends with Charlie Sheen.

Otherwise, the answer is no.

2-0 count: one pitch, one zone

by rojosoto on Jun 1, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

easy

that's my cousin there, lol

by Caleb on Jun 1, 2007 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, really?

I mean, the Sheen/Estevezeseses are from Ohio... I'm such a sukr for what I read on the internet.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 1, 2007 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They wouldn't put things

on the internets if they weren't true.

by ctnyc on Jun 1, 2007 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

their mom

and my mom are cousins. She is from Eastern Kentucky originally

by Caleb on Jun 1, 2007 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i kinda of think cheating is immoral

but it is the players choice. Their wives know what they are getting into.

by justin0070000 on Jun 1, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's not baseball ethics.

by Geki on Jun 1, 2007 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ok

by bobestes on Jun 1, 2007 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

then college then the pros -Entitlement. I am special because I'm an athlete blah blah blah - the rules are not for me. I think the wives that really know what they are getting into, live with it. There are others who actually think that 'hubby's' roamin' days are done, only to find out that in many cases it just ain't so.

Now batting for the Reds, the pitcher - Marcel Duchamp

by Madville on Jun 1, 2007 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Relevant!

http://www.babeslovebaseball.com/2007/05/mistresses-for-mlb-players.html

by Brendanukkah on Jun 1, 2007 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hatteberg

Threadjack.

Think the Yanks might take a flyer on Fratte? Looks like Giambi might be done for the year.

Fuit quod es, eris quod sum

by Man Mountain on Jun 1, 2007 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hatte and milton

for phil hughes. totally fair.

"Swing away, Bronson." -- sayeth Chris Welsh.

by boobs on Jun 1, 2007 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then next year we can file a grievance...

Because Krivsky didn't realize Hughes was injured...

"Give them this: they never let the fact that only half of what they posted was funny stop them from posting still more." - Rastronomicals

by chandrathan on Jun 1, 2007 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like your thinking

Hatteberg is playing as well right now as you could reasonably hope for, 310/390/488. So you're selling high. He's also had success in the AL before, which alleviates the league switch concerns.
Votto is ready. A great 2006 in AA, and he's coming off of a torrid May. Conine can continue to play the servicable backup and impart his gamer wisdom to the young 'un. Hopefully calling up Votto now doesn't make him arb eligible in 2010; if it does keep him down another week or so. No use wasting a few million on a lost season.
Can't say I'm familiar with the Yanks' farm system outside of the stars like Hughes and Tabata, who are presumably untouchable. There are a couple of meddling hitting prospects named Duncan. Hopefully Krivsky can identify some live arms or promising bats that can help down the road. But there isn't much to lose here, in my mind. Hop to it, Wayne.

by ken on Jun 1, 2007 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not really

a baseball ethics thing to me. Just not part of the game. But I don't think it's reasonable to think your dude is walking the straight and narrow if he's a pro athlete. Not that it makes anything ok. It's just like these guys who get married two weeks before they join the Army for four years. What do you expect?

If you marry a pro, you're in it for the money, the cars, the nails, the big house, etc. That's just the real world to me. Let the "How do you know what's going through their minds" onslaught begin.

Wait three days. Alan will become the resurrection.

by sukr on Jun 1, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

eh

you know what I mean

by bobestes on Jun 1, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ron Mexico

wishes he'd heard of these rules before he got the herp.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 1, 2007 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And the pending felony

for dog-fighting.

"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose

by Officer Dibble on Jun 1, 2007 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think

it's more of a "nudge nudge wink wink" thing that has been around for a long time and is in the process of dying out as our society continues to evolve.

Back in the early days of baseball, many women did not work and did not have the higher education to find a liveable-wage job, so they were stuck with their philandering husbands. Plus, ballplayers didn't make much money in those days, so even if the wives did divorce their husbands, they weren't looking at a fat settlement. I think these are the conditions that gave the whole "deal" it's start.

But these days, while it still exists, I think this kind of deal is much less prevalent. To be sure, there are some gold-digging types out there who are in it for the money and lifestyle and don't care as long as the conditions you mention are met. But my sense is that those are a clear minority (plus, if we're talking about an established star with a high salary, a divorce settlement can set up the wife in comfort for life anyway).

Ultimately, while this "understanding" has existed, and may still to some degree today, I don't think it was ever formalized or legitimized enough to be considered part of "baseball ethics." More like something you sweep under the rug and hope that a nudge and a wink will make the questions go away.

by ctnyc on Jun 1, 2007 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

to me it

doesn't matter if it is your third baseman or your garbage man. If you want to sleep around, have a lady in every city, then don't get married.

On the flip side, any lady who got her man that way shouldn't expect anything less from him when he is on the road.

by Caleb on Jun 1, 2007 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Any woman who sells

her dignity for a big house and a fancy car doesn't value herself much and that's a terrible shame.

Any man, ballplayer or milkman, sleeping around on his wife, well, let's just say I don't have much tolerance for that.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jun 1, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ethics

I wonder if the average ballplayer could even get laid based on playing major league baseball. I'm talking about a guy like Kirk Saarloos, someone who's been in the league for a few years, average player, totally anonymous in the real world.

I really think it's different for baseball. A lot of baseball players look like regular people, which is not at all true for NBA players or NFL players.

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Jun 2, 2007 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

When I covered

a Cubs rookie league affiliate in the 90s, there were always baseball Annies around, some who weren't perticularly particular. Some simply equated baseball players with big money. They didn't know whether the guy was a first-round draft pick with a chance to make a lot of money or the third-string catcher who was no more than roster filler. I suppose they were just taking their chances or they simply were naive.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jun 2, 2007 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure

I would assume that the words "I'm a professional baseball player" are quite an aphrodisiac.

If anything, because it's different than your garden variety accountant or middle manager.

by bobestes on Jun 2, 2007 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A buisness professor at Ohio Northern University

has a program, that i was a part of, he takes 10 Northern students to cuba. Just because he has a Cuban mistress. He is also married. Don't know how releated this is, but i still can't get over that I spent 10 weeks in a third world country so a 60 year old man can fuck a hot 30 year old cuban woman. He gave her a lot of things. I think he was in love with her.

by justin0070000 on Jun 2, 2007 2:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs