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Game Thread: Game 28 vs the Astros Part 2

Mike Stanton is currently having a meltdown, let's hope he can settle a little.

5-4 Reds in the bottom of 8.

Go Reds!

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'For I knew it he downed eight of them and commenced to doin' the bear dance!

by chandrathan on May 3, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

once again...
...you call first, we lose.

Just sayin'....


All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?

by BubbaFan on May 3, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel sick
Way to fall behind in the count to a guy you need to get out.  How long have you been pitching, son?

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

first!
If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be dangerous.

by Man Mountain on May 3, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

GDMFR!
'For I knew it he downed eight of them and commenced to doin' the bear dance!

by chandrathan on May 3, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Darn Darn Darn
Houston sucks.  They may take a second season.  Ergo...

by TheC on May 3, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Some dude's always ruining my fun.
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

how many runs
have we allowed in the damned 8th inning this year?

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

You know Marty
He says, "That's ok guys.  We'll get 'em in the 9th."

by TheC on May 3, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always the optmist
I know I left a vowel out.  I just can't figure out how to spell that damn word.

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

"This bullpen is awful"
after Weathers gave up the hit.
I am not a man...mountain.

by satyanaas on May 3, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

cruD
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

unreal
must we always let the first batter reach against stormy?

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Weathers
Does anyone else see David Weathers as the right-handed Mike Stanton?  Looks-wise, not similar pitch repetoire.  Although, the results are pretty similar.

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You've gotta be kidding me
"I'm just like everybody else. I have two arms, two legs, and four-thousand hits." - Pete Rose

by BK on May 3, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

This bullpen...
...is an absolute embarrassment. Not a single pitcher in it who should scare anyone.

Way to go, Wayne.

by Reds123 on May 3, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

They don't scare you?
They scare the hell out of me.

Where the hell is Bill Bray?  

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bray
has he thrown a pitch yet?

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps.....
we have some young, productive everyday players still in arbitration that we could trade straight up for injured bullpen arms.  That would fix the problem.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go bullpen
to the minors
Please contribute to the Hats for Bats fund.

by Pilsner73 on May 3, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

who
in the minors do you hate?

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh
sry i don't hate them, I know that's cruel to wish that on them.
Please contribute to the Hats for Bats fund.

by Pilsner73 on May 3, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

New arms
Heck didn't our manager ask for new arms a week ago, and he got 1 pitcher and an extension for a guy with a 6-7era?
Please contribute to the Hats for Bats fund.

by Pilsner73 on May 3, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Todd Coffey is headed to Lullville..
..with a fat contract.
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by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to say this
I'll be glad when Gary Majewski is here to pitch in the 8th inning.  He excelled in that role in Washington, and save one terrible outing, he has been excellent in AAA.

by Blue on May 3, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it too late to start drinking?
Golden State game thread, anyone?
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm in...
I just hope Golden State doesn't implode tonight...
'For I knew it he downed eight of them and commenced to doin' the bear dance!

by chandrathan on May 3, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me and Julio Down by the schoolyard...
There's your song caleb...
'For I knew it he downed eight of them and commenced to doin' the bear dance!

by chandrathan on May 3, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Love that song.
That'd be a nice one to go with "Just Waiting on a Friend."
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice
Though if you're going Simon & Garfunkel, I have to throw in a plug for one of my two favorite songs of all-time, "The Boxer."
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call me crazy
but I'm giving the 8th inning to Salmon at this point.  He's about the only guy in the bullpen whose radar gun readings regularly start with "9," and, honestly, how much worse could he be than the crap we're running out there now?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm looking forward to Salmon.
I think.
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn straight
I'm sick of junkballing veterans. We need some bat-missers.

by teb7 on May 3, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worth a try
Can't be worse than Stanton/Coffey/Saarloos/Weathers/etc.
"I'm just like everybody else. I have two arms, two legs, and four-thousand hits." - Pete Rose

by BK on May 3, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to go "Logan's Run"
on this bullpen...

everyone over thirty needs to be terminated.

Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on May 3, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Lots of good Logan's Run crap w/ Google
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

although i think you have to be over 30...
to have heard of this movie..

Sci Fi classic !

Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on May 3, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

just don't
do it to the posters here, lol

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm 38
so I don't want to kill them, just get them out of the bullpen !
Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on May 3, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never thought
I'd see Maajin Buu on a game thread.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have learned
to never be surprised on RedReporter

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surprise!

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would I..
..have my picture taken wearing an inflated wet suit and chillin on a futon when I could simply Google "weirdest goddamn thinkg you've ever seen" and then claim to be the guy wearing the inflated wet suit chillin on a futon?

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...
why wouldn't you?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 4, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

He answered a question with a question...
Guilty as charged. Now we know what Alan does in his spare time.
Wanted: A reliever for three quick outs in the 8th inning.

by Ash on May 4, 2007 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now Ash...
...just because you know what I wear in my spare time sholdn't allow you to assume that yu know know what I do in my spare time.

<sigh> I think I may have overestimated the demand for bulbous ticks at kid birthday parties.  

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 4, 2007 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's the alcohol, but dude
that's the weirdest goddamn thing I have ever seen. Congratulations.
Wanted: A reliever for three quick outs in the 8th inning.

by Ash on May 3, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea where I am
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that your response...
...or a possible caption?

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I didn't know better (I don't)
I'd say that's a grown ass man in that black git-up.

by Blue on May 3, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's an "ass man"?
If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be dangerous.

by Man Mountain on May 4, 2007 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's what you get
when an ass chicken finally stands up to the bullies, and becomes an ass man.  Sort of like that movie "Ass Angus."

Note "Ass Angus" was directed by Enrique Cruz.  Jon Coutlangus got his break into the biz by starring in the sequel.

by Brendanukkah on May 4, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hamilton keeps hitting the ball hard
I feel like his drop has been due in part to some really bad luck.

by Blue on May 3, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Reds rally time
I've got my cap on... it's go time
"I'm just like everybody else. I have two arms, two legs, and four-thousand hits." - Pete Rose

by BK on May 3, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

In play, no out
boom boom clap
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh god
Please don't bunt Jerry.

by teb7 on May 3, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice Nice
Keep it going.
I am not a man...mountain.

by satyanaas on May 3, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm against bunt here.
Phillips will get at least one over.  And Griffey's up next with a big stick.

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Are they f*cking bunting?
I will shoot somebody.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No
But you have to admit it would have been better than what they got.

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call
GO GRIFFEY!
I am not a man...mountain.

by satyanaas on May 3, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to watch Grey's Anatomy Tonight...
I bet there were no less than ten crying characters...

This show is miserable!

'For I knew it he downed eight of them and commenced to doin' the bear dance!

by chandrathan on May 3, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Crying is the new laughing.
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to tell my wife no this week.
But Tivo is set for the recast tomorrow night.

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Luck dude...
It's two hours, and there's a whole new batch of crying doctors!
'For I knew it he downed eight of them and commenced to doin' the bear dance!

by chandrathan on May 3, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah
I'm thinking of just not coming home from work.

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ughhh
Sickness
"I'm just like everybody else. I have two arms, two legs, and four-thousand hits." - Pete Rose

by BK on May 3, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoop. There it is.
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

words of curse
what a lucky bunch of rat bastards.  That ball was smoked.

by Blue on May 3, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Junior
had a hell of a game. That was good to see at least.
I am not a man...mountain.

by satyanaas on May 3, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck
Screwed.  

And just when I want to kick the fucking tv, Grande spews praise for the Astros.

by Brian B on May 3, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

crap
might should have given  Freel a shot at stealing there

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Beer
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beer indeed...
Well, that and mlb.tv coupled with beer and a fantasy league to which you pay attention.

Quote of the night:

Situation- Chris Snyder 1 minute ago facing Tom Glavine with Stephen Drew on First

D'Back's Announcer (After Snyder tried to bunt): "Ya' gotta' do anything you can against this crafy lefthander. He's not prone to the home run ball."

Result: Chris Snyder two-Run Home Run

by Reds123 on May 3, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you know Chris Snyder...
He's a "baseball guy."  That, of course, negates the effect of the "crafty lefthander."  I'm surprised the D'Backs announcers didn't know this.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be happy for Biggio in quest for 3000
..KIDDING!
Tecate has produced one million 24 oz. cans emblazoned with the DeLaHoya-Mayweather fight's logo to sell in 7-Elevens and Hispanic groceries.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

im back
And c-man called first in a pivotal 2nd game thread situation.

Ummmmm

looking California, and feeling Minnesota...

by obc on May 3, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate the Asstros
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

1-4
vs. Astros.
If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be dangerous.

by Man Mountain on May 3, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Deja vu to yoy
Bray/Majewski v 2.0

Hope springs eternal

looking California, and feeling Minnesota...

by obc on May 3, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Not typically a baskeball fan
but this Dallas-Golden State game is supposed to be crazy, so I think I might grab another beer and watch a bit.

On another non-basball-sports-related note, anybody watching De La Hoya-Mayweather this weekend?  Put me down for Mayweather in a not-particularly-close decision.  That's a lot of hyphenated-but-not-hyphenated words.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

the Golden Boy.....
was clobbered by an even older Bernard Hopkins.
Mayweather by KO.
Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on May 3, 2007 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right..
De La Hoya is one of my favorite boxers..
but I still think Mayweather will knock him out.
Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on May 3, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really think.....
Mayweather is going to dismantle him.

It's OK.  You'll get over it.  I did when my boy Tito Trinidad got worked by Winky Wright.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mayweather
Book it
"I'm just like everybody else. I have two arms, two legs, and four-thousand hits." - Pete Rose

by BK on May 3, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say
Saarloos to the rotation, Milton to the scrap heap, Majewski to the bullpen.  Eventually, Bray replaces someone.

Majewski will improve this team.  Mark it down.  We won't blow these leads very often when he is in there.

by Blue on May 3, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i'll see your Saarloos
and your Milton but raise you a Salmon. And then I'll go all in with Homer

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every trade defense....
included a statement regarding Majewski that ended with "mark it down."  Forgive me for my skepticism.

And, by the way, I liked Majewski when he pitched here in Washington.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Majewski
RHM is reporting that Majewski's teenaged sister was killed in a ATV accident today.


All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?

by BubbaFan on May 3, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

man
that is a lot more significant than anything that's been said on here all day.

that is just awful.

by Blue on May 3, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

terrible news
You hate to hear that for anyone

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's awful
My family's thoughts and prayers go out to the Majewski family as they're obviously going through something far more important than baseball. Simply tragic.

by Reds123 on May 4, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?
The best thing the Reds could do with Saarloos is try to swap him to someone in desperate need of anyone who smells like a Starting Pitcher. Saarloos is part of the problem and giving him more Innings isn't a solution.

Majewski first needs to prove he's healthy and then needs to demonstrate that he can get folks out at the MLB level before he can be counted on for anything. He's never produced a K rate above 5.50 for a season and his career OBP against is .347. Too many baserunners is already an issue with the Reds relief corps. Here are Majewski's DIPS rates for the past three seasons versus his actual ERA numbers:

  1. ERA- 4.61, DIPS- 4.20
  2. ERA- 2.93, DIPS- 3.79
  3. ERA- 3.86, DIPS- 4.11
What Krivsky traded for is a guy who's consistently been pretty much a league average relief pitcher even when he's been healthy. And keep in mind that Majewski's 2006 DIPS isn't park adjusted- meaning that it's most likely skewed low due to RFK's HR Park Factor of 0.775 and Hit Park Factor of 0.851.

Unfortunately, "League Average", while being better than what the Reds have, isn't the kind of stopper who can avoid big Innings and who doesn't have to be rescued from disaster consistently. Couple that with the fact that Majewski's also averaged nearly 17 pitches per Inning throughout his MLB career and you've got a journeyman middle reliever. His high Pitch per Inning count is a symptom of a too-high BB rate and a lack of strikeouts, but it's also indicative of a pitcher who doesn't actually possess an "Out" pitch. Majewski doesn't and never has.

A healthy Majewski simply didn't project to help out the Reds all that much in 2006 and only projects to be an tiny improvement if he's healthy soon and only then because the rest of the Reds Relievers truly stink. But he's going to blow leads if he comes into games with Runners on base. He's going to need rescuing on multiple occasions if he comes in with the bases empty. He's not going to give up the longball a ton, but he's pretty near what the Reds already have.

I want better.

by Reds123 on May 3, 2007 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice try guys
Maybe the homestand will be better...and we'll see some new faces running outta the pen....

Ken Griffey Jr stole a base today.

I am not a man...mountain.

by satyanaas on May 3, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

need new closer and set up man..

Coutlangus as set up..
Salmon to close.
They can't do any worse
Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on May 3, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Consider me a-salutin' that flag..
..if you're running it up the flagpole.

by Alan @ Red Reporter on May 3, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They made a nice come back
after being shut down most of the game.

Griffey was a plus. Hopefully they can ride him for a while.

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way....
Sunday Sunday Sunday

The Giants sent Russ Ortiz to the DL today, leading Sabean to call up Tim Lincecum.  He's scheduled to start this Sunday.  On ESPN.  Against Cole Hamels.

For fans of electric filthiness on the mound (ooh, ooh, pick me), make absolutely sure you're watching this game.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on May 3, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

CSI
anyone catch it tonight? Ally Sheedy looks ancient

by Caleb on May 3, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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