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What does Carlos Zambrano think?

This story kinda has it all:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2763803

He refers to himself in the third person twice (calling himself "Carlos Zambrano" and "Big Z") and makes the infamous claim that dooms most in the minds of fans ("This is a business.")

Personally, I appreciate his candor. And what he's saying is true: He's worth a hell of a lot of money. Looks like whoever said dollars are all that matter (in reference to why Bronson would want to stay in Cincy) had a good point.

"Jim [Hendry] spent a lot of money. I hope he has more for 'Big Z.'"

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Smart move by the big fella
Prickish move as well, but smart.  He's forcing Hendry's hand here.  There's no possible way you can trade your #1 starter (and typically, your only healthy starter) in the same offseason you spend several hundred million to upgrade your team.  Similarly, you can't let your #1 asset walk one season after you spend several hundred million on players who are older, and not as good.

As long as teams continue to act in their financial best interests without criticism, you will never hear me criticize a player acting in his financial best interest.  Especially a pitcher who was managed by Dusty Baker for 5 years.  Get it while the gettin's good.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Feb 13, 2007 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if i saw
that the newbies were getting paid a lot, i'd probably be whining about how i should get it too, since i've been the only one productive in my department over the last couple of years.
Still haven't found what I'm looking for.

by Daedalus on Feb 13, 2007 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cub fan's perspective
With the caveat that I'm probably in the minority:

I've advocated trading Z for quite some time now, and this posturing in the media clearly hasn't changed my point of view. Yes, he's a great pitcher, but his control issues tell me that he may never reach the next level (don't get me wrong, he definitely could). But I don't think pitchers should  EVER get contracts longer than 5 years (with the possible exception of Santana). There is simply too much possibility for major injury when pitching is concerned, which would potentially make Z's contract a bigger albatross than it already was.

Some put stock into PAPs (depending on what mood Bill James is in), and if they do hold any legitimacy, Dusty Baker has made Zambrano a perpetual league leader in  pitcher abuse. What IS indisputable is that Zambrano already has some back problems, and back problems at 25 only get worse. I would not at all be shocked to see him suffer from debilitating back pain by the age of 30-32 if this problem continues.

At any rate, Hendry has handcuffed our club by spending like Paris Hilton on a coke binge, with massive contracts to players that register as only  pretty good, but not oustanding (Soriano), mediocre (Lilly) and just plain bad (Marquis) who all makes this situation even more complex. Had the Cubs gone into rebuilding mode like teams that almost lose 100 games with no farm system SHOULD, we wouldn't have this problem, and could easily trade Z to the Yankees for prospects (starting with Hughes--although there is considerable argument whether they would even part with him for a rental player...I think they would). But instead, we've been positioned to compete this year (and in our weak division, we probably will), which has essentially put us in a "damned if we do, damned if we don't" position where we need to re-sign Zambrano or this season is a complete waste, and we don't really have the money to sign him now without mortgaging the future. I still think we should cut our losses and  trade him immediately (or even at the deadline), and the fact that he has a big ego only strengthens my conviction. His clear priority to bleed the Cubs for all of the gold in fort knox is sad since we're the organization that gave him his chance, and brought him up, but I don't hold it against him (you can't fault a player for trying to gain leverage), but his ego (and referring to himself in the third person) seems even more ridiculous when one realizes that he isn't even the best pitcher in the Nl Central (Carpenter, then Oswalt) let alone the entire NL.

If I may conclude this rambling post, I think we'd just be better of trading him now, as signing Zambrano to a seven year contract worth 130 million or more just isn't appealing.

by Thelonious on Feb 13, 2007 3:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

great points...
I especially loved the part about Paris on a coke binge... is that copywritten? I wanna use that somewhere...
In accordance to the prophecy

by crolfer on Feb 13, 2007 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sticking point
I agree with a lot of what you say Neifi, but one thing I can't get past. Even though you don't hold Zambrano trying to "bleed the Cubs" against him (to your credit), you say it's sad and that the Cubs "gave him his chance." Now I admit that I don't know much about Zambrano's background, but I'm guessing that there's a lot of other clubs that would have given a chance to a pitcher with Zambrano's stuff.

But my bigger point is that I wonder if this whole Cubs' offseason is some kind of karmic slapdown. Here's an organization that was notoriously cheap for years and years. Not Marlins-cheap, but for a behemoth like the Tribune Co., cheap. The Co. realized that fans would come to Wrigley and the TV money would come in no matter what kind of product they put on the field, so why spend? Makes sense from the point of view of a corporation concerned about the bottom line, but doesn't make much sense from the point of view of winning baseball games. Or valuing your fans. Now the team finally is in a position where they're ready to break open the vault, and the best that can be had are the likes of Lilly and Marquis. And signing those guys might preclude signing Zambrano, the only true #1 starter in the bunch.

I'm not superstitious, but maybe this team really is cursed.

 

by ctnyc on Feb 14, 2007 12:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Zambrano
He probably saw that NL Crental Preview on Sweet Home Sports (which has since been taken down) saying that he was guarenteed to win 23 games (only 7 over his previous career high, and only the most in the Majors since 2002) so he figured the Cubs better pony up the big bucks now before hitting the market.  

by indy on Feb 14, 2007 8:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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