RR Mitchell Report Pool

by Red Menace on Dec 12, 2007 9:48 PM EST

Tomorrow is the long awaited Mitchell Report Day. Rumors abound that the Senator's findings will name 60-80 current and former Major League players. Here's your chance for wild speculation.

The Rules

List ten players, 1 through 10, that you believe will be "named" (mentioned in any pejorative way in the Mitchell Report). You'll receive 10 points if your #1 name is listed, 9 points for #2 and so on (like an NFL confidence pool). As a bonus any former Reds players will result in double points (so ten points if you had Frank Robinson at #6 on your list and he's named).

Note the list of ineligible players below! Any player who has admitted usage, tested positive, or been implicated through some sort of leak is not acceptable. Be creative and show your biases.

Please use this diary only to post your list of 10. For questions or further steroid talk use this one.

And folks, please just scroll quickly to the bottom and make your list. Don't look at other peoples' picks. That would be cheating on a steroid pool, which is way too meta for me to handle. Also no changing your list with 'Reply to'. The deadline is 2:00 PM on Thursday. Good luck!

===Ineligible Players==

Admitted Users (17)
Ken Caminiti - Steroids
Barry Bonds - Steroids
Bobby Estalella - Steroids and hGH
Jason Giambi - Steroids and hGH
Jeremy Giambi - Steroids
Armando Rios - Steroids and hGH
Benito Santiago - Steroids and hGH
Gary Sheffield - Steroids
Jose Canseco - Steroids and hGH
Tom House - Steroids
Wally Joyner - Steroids
Paxton Crawford - Steroids and hGH
Jason Grimsley - Steroids and hGH
Jim Leyritz - hGH
David Segui - hGH
John Rocker - hGH
Paul Byrd - hGH
Implicated Players (29)
Mark McGwire - Steroids
Manny Alexander - Steroids
Chuck Finley - Steroids
Marvin Bernard - Steroids and hGH
Randy Velarde - Steroids
Wilson Alvarez - Steroids and hGH
Bret Boone - Steroids
Ozzie Canseco - Steroids
Juan Gonzalez - Steroids and hGH
Dave Martinez - Steroids
Ivan Rodriguez - Steroids and hGH
Tony Saunders - Steroids and hGH
Miguel Tejada - Steroids
Lenny Dykstra - Steroids and hGH
Dave Hollins - Steroids
Roger Clemens - "PE Drugs"
Andy Pettitte - "PE Drugs"
Brian Roberts - Steroids
Jay Gibbons - Steroids
Gary Matthews Jr. - hGH
Jerry Hairston Jr. - hGH
David Bell - hCG
Darren Holmes - Steroids and hGH
Rick Ankiel - hGH
Troy Glaus - Steroids
Scott Schoeneweis - Steroids
Matt Williams - Steroids and hGH
Jose Guillen - Steroids and hGH
Ismael Valdez - hGH
MLB Posiive Tests (16)
Alex Sanchez - Unknown
Jorge Piedra - Unknown
Agustin Montero - Unknown
Jamal Strong - Unknown
Juan Rincon - Unknown
Rafael Betancourt - Unknown
Rafael Palmeiro - Stanzolol (Steroid)
Ryan Franklin - Unknown
Mike Morse - Unknown
Carlos Almanzar - Unknown
Felix Heredia - Unknown
Matt Lawton - Boldenone (Steroid)
Yusaku Iriki - Unknown
Guillermo Mota - Unknown
Juan Salas - Unknown
Dan Serafini - Unknown
Non-MLB Positive Tests (2)
Termel Sledge - Precursor (Andro)
Derrick Turnbow - Precursor (Andro)
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My list

Marcus Giles
Brian Giles
Eric Gagne
Luis Gonzalez
Brady Anderson
Andy Pettitte
Aaron Boone (Heck his bro was implicated)
Chris Sabo
Tracy Jones

by cesarhernandez on Dec 12, 2007 10:03 PM EST reply actions

Oops I forgot a No. 5

For No. 5, lets go REALLY out of left field: Ken Griffey Jr.

by cesarhernandez on Dec 12, 2007 10:24 PM EST up reply actions

And I'm an idiot

Skipped over Pettitte being ineligible.

So change my No. 7 to Sammy Sosa.

by cesarhernandez on Dec 12, 2007 11:48 PM EST up reply actions

My list

Ruben Sierra
Will Clark
Brady Anderson
Kevin Brown
Pete Harnisch (Former Red Double Down)
Howard Johnson
Randy Myers (Former Red Double Down)
Danny Jackson (Former Red Double Down)
Darren Daulton
Mark Wohlers

Note: If Rob Dibble is eligible (I think he admitted steroid use recently), I'd slot him at #7, and move everybody else down 1.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Dec 12, 2007 10:18 PM EST reply actions

Sierra and Wohlers

Also Double Down eligible.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Dec 12, 2007 10:32 PM EST up reply actions

I wish I could name 50

1 Sammy Sosa
2 Brady Anderson
3 Ben Grieve
4 Rich Aurilia*
5 Rob Bell*
6 Melvin Mora
7 Raul Mondesi
8 Geoff Jenkins
9 Julio Franco
10 Glenn Braggs*

by Red Menace on Dec 12, 2007 10:20 PM EST reply actions

interesting

Joey Hamilton
LaRue
Kelly Stinnett
Wily Mo
Mike Stanton
Brandon Larson

by fletch @ Red Reporter on Dec 12, 2007 10:44 PM EST reply actions

No peeking, you peeking asshole.

Ruben Sierra
Greg Vaughn
Jeff Bagwell
Scott Servais
Pete Incaviglia
Dean Palmer
Sammy Sosa
Brady Anderson
Scott Erickson
BJ Surhoff

Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 12, 2007 10:59 PM EST reply actions

Let's see...

Trying to think of some former Reds here. May as well double down across the board:

Ruben Sierra
Aaron Boone
Reggie Sanders
Ron Gant
Greg Vaughn
Dmitri Young
Mike Remlinger
Mike Stanton
Wily Mo Pena
Dave Burba

Crap, Guillen is ineligible. But I managed somehow...

by Gray on Dec 12, 2007 11:16 PM EST reply actions

Double down

I can't believe I forgot Greg Vaughn.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 12:33 AM EST up reply actions

Well...

I forgot Kevin Mitchell!

by Gray on Dec 13, 2007 2:14 AM EST up reply actions

#8 is a winner

Stanton is on there.

"Joe is baseball in Cincinnati...We can lose players, managers and coaches, but we can't afford to lose Joe Nuxhall." - Sparky Anderson

by boohiss on Dec 13, 2007 2:11 PM EST up reply actions

10 out of 300...

Ken Griffy Jr.
Pudge Rodriguiz
Aaron Boone
Brady Anderson
Derek Lee
Jose Rio
Benito Santiago
Kevin Mitchell
Josh Hamilton
Rob Dibble

"Cool Papa Bell hit a line drive right past my ear. I turned around and saw the ball hit his ass sliding into second." - Satchel Paige

by Madville on Dec 12, 2007 11:43 PM EST reply actions

His name is Rijo

and he's dancing on the sand.

by Brian B on Dec 12, 2007 11:47 PM EST up reply actions

Hey now, WOOO!

Look at that.

Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 12, 2007 11:58 PM EST up reply actions

Josh Hamilton?

"Herein is love, not that we loved God but that He loved us" -1 John 4:10

by shortstopv2 on Dec 13, 2007 3:40 AM EST up reply actions

Picks . . . here we go

1 John Jaha
2 Ben Grieve
3 Brady Anderson
4 Rich Aurilia
5 Fernando Tatis
6 Ruben Rivera
7 Chris Stynes
8 Matt Stairs
9 Derek Bell
10 Bernard Gilkey

by Brian B on Dec 12, 2007 11:46 PM EST reply actions

My shot

Eric Gagne
Kevin Mitchell
Adam Everett
Mike Piazza
Brady Anderson
Luis Gonzalez
Larry Walker
Paul O'Neill
Greg Vaughn
Chris Sabo

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Dec 12, 2007 11:48 PM EST reply actions

Sinners!

Brady Anderson
Todd Hundley
Randy Myers
Mo Vaughn
Chris Sabo
Duane Walker
Tim Teufel
Pete Schourek
Rich Croushore
Howard Johnson

by ken on Dec 12, 2007 11:58 PM EST reply actions

hmmmm... methinks...

JD Drew
Joel Piniero
Juan Encarnacion
Jim Edmonds
Julio Franco
Jamie Moyer
Jason Kendall
Jose Contreras
Jermaine Dye
Johnny Gomes

Ha! I got through with all "J's" yes!

Reds: WS Champs 2008... and every year after...

by crolfer on Dec 13, 2007 12:16 AM EST reply actions

What about...

our JD?

by Gray on Dec 13, 2007 2:13 AM EST up reply actions

Man Mountain

Brady Anderson
Bobby Bonilla
Kevin Mitchell
Reggie Sanders
Glenn Bragg
Dave Parker
Lyle Mouton
Jeromy Burnitz
Kevin Brown

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 1:43 AM EST reply actions

time to do it

and im proud to say that i did not cheat.

Mike Cameron (R)
Kelly Stinnett (R)
Tony Tarasco (R)
Rickey Henderson
Julio Franco
Chris Stynes (R)
Darren Bragg (R)
Rich Aurilia (R)
Dante Bichette (R)
Mike Hampton

I realize that the problem with this scoring is that it forces you to pick a lot of Reds. I would have liked to add Johnny Damon, Turk Wendell, Armando Benitez, and a few others, but no Reds connection, no double points. Eh.

Anyway, check out Cameron's fucking arms:

They literally look like horses' legs. And he played for the Mets.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Dec 13, 2007 4:46 AM EST reply actions

looking back over everyone else's lists

was tons of fun with guns. ruben sierra seems to be the popular choice, and greg vaughn. i can't believe you cats aren't thinking about cameron... look at his arms! theyre like fucking elephant trunks. unreal.

im also curious to see how glenn braggs vs. darren bragg plays out. I think i backed a fairly powerful sleeper.

anyway, nine hours until christmas morning. I'll be on here to see how all this shit plays out.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Dec 13, 2007 4:57 AM EST up reply actions

Cameron

Wait, he's not on the list? Guess not. He should be b/c of his upcoming suspension.

I've also enjoyed looking at others lists, even when it's reminded me of the obvious guys I missed. Lyle Mouton sent me scurrying to bb-ref. I'm thinking Man Mountain has some inside LSU dirt on that one.

by ken on Dec 13, 2007 7:50 AM EST up reply actions

Mouton played with Armando Rios

on those Gorilla Ball teams at LSU. He kind of sucked at everything except knocking the holy piss out of the ball.

I also thought Cameron was off limits. I was thinking of putting Chris Stynes on my list when I went out to the bar, but something happened to impair my memory..

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 11:20 AM EST up reply actions

I've decided to forego the whole list

because I'm going to be late for work and I think all of my picks have been mentioned already. Instead, I'm just going to give you my one name -

Jeff Juden

is it April yet?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2007 7:45 AM EST reply actions

My list

Brady Anderson
Carl Everett
Milton Bradley
AJ Pierzynski
Sammy Sosa
Rich Aurilia
Jeff Kent
Pete Rose
Wade Boggs
Larry Walker

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Dec 13, 2007 8:23 AM EST reply actions

damnit

I forgot Jim Edmonds. And I've been touting him for PEDs for years!

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Dec 13, 2007 8:28 AM EST up reply actions

Wade Boggs was on the same stuff

that makes me so good at darts.

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 11:24 AM EST up reply actions

The Clear

tastes like chicken.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 11:28 AM EST up reply actions

Hard work?

Or stick-to-itiveness?

(I have no idea how to spell that word)

by Brendanukkah on Dec 13, 2007 11:33 AM EST up reply actions

assiduity

or acid-do-it-y

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 11:34 AM EST up reply actions

Red Dred

1 Ruben Sierra
2 Ron Gant
3 Mike Cameron
4 Greg Vaughn
5 Rob Dibble
6 Chris Sabo
7 Richie Aurilia
8 Kevin Jarvis
9 Reggie Sanders
10 Barry Larkin (yeah I said it)

by jacob brumfield on Dec 13, 2007 8:29 AM EST reply actions

Let's see...

Pete Rose (if he's walk through hell in a gas suit,...)
Rickey!
Sammy Sosa
Brady Anderson
Jeff Kent
Steve Finley
Jim Edmonds
AJ Pierzynski
Fernando Tatis
Aaron Boone

Plus, this:

Admitted Users (17)
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Barry Bonds - Steroids

is of course wrong. He admits using something that looks like "The Cream", which the feds say is a steroid. Bonds, however, adimantly denies he knowingly used steroids.

just....wow.

by sidnancy on Dec 13, 2007 9:03 AM EST reply actions

Tatis

Good play. I'm surprised more of us didn't remember him. Also Mark Quinn.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 10:46 AM EST up reply actions

Mark Quinn is a good one

he holds the record for most home runs by a player whose last name starts with the letter Q. And he hit two home runs in his first major league game. Sounds like a juicer to me.

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Dec 13, 2007 10:55 AM EST up reply actions

I remember his commercial

for KSwiss or something. It was just him pumping iron. His voice-over said something like, "What do you do when you hit a grand slam in your first major league at bat? Work harder..." He was ripped. And he sucked.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 10:59 AM EST up reply actions

Ok

1.Reggie Sanders
2.Brady Anderson
3.Bobby Bonilla
4.Joe Blanton
5.Joe Giradi
6.Rob Dibble/Prior
7.Mois Alou
8.Jeff Kent
9.Willie Greene
10.Rich Aurilla

by gnarley on Dec 13, 2007 10:28 AM EST reply actions

Double points for everyone!

1.    Greg Vaughn
2.    BJ Ryan
3.    Reggie Sanders
4.    David Wells
5.    Elmer Dessens
6.    Rich Aurilia
7.    Barry Larkin (I originally thought of putting him #1, but realized since he only played for 1 team the likelihood of him getting ratted out was less.)
8.    Aaron Boone
9.    Dave Burba
10.    Pete Harnisch

2-0 count: one pitch, one zone

by rojosoto on Dec 13, 2007 10:50 AM EST reply actions

i didn't pick any reds. i don't want to know.

Brady Anderson
Mike Piazza
Dante Bichette
Vinny Castilla
Mike Hampton
Edgardo Alfonzo
Derek Bell
Robin Ventura
Jason Isringhausen
Al Leiter

2008 NL Central Champs!

by Daedalus on Dec 13, 2007 11:37 AM EST reply actions

i guess bichette played for the reds

well, i still pick him

2008 NL Central Champs!

by Daedalus on Dec 13, 2007 11:39 AM EST up reply actions

You got one.

You can't run from your past forever.

Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 13, 2007 11:40 AM EST up reply actions

OK.

Other than Clemens.

Sammy Sosa
Shawn Green
Cecil Fielder
Vinny Castilla
Kevin Mitchell
Cliff Floyd
Luis Gonzalez
Rich Aurilia
Brady Anderson
Kerry Wood

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Dec 13, 2007 11:44 AM EST reply actions

Mickey Tettleton and Andres Galarraga

Just because I haven't heard Tettleton's name in a while and that's one large gato.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 13, 2007 12:41 PM EST reply actions

Is Paxton Crawford considered a Red?

Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 13, 2007 12:44 PM EST reply actions

I hope I win!

1 Greg Vaughan
2 Josh Hamilton
3 Chris Hammond
4 David Ortiz
5 Solomon Torres
6 Jose Mesa
7 Robert Person
8 Tom Gordon
9 Steve Finley
10 Nomar Garciaparra

'Clutch' to me is the epitome of experimenter's bias.

by TheDude @ Red Reporter on Dec 13, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions

Just in time!

Sammy Sosa
Albert Belle
Brady Anderson
Chris Sabo
Will Clark
Luis Gonzalez
Howard Johnson
Dante Bichette
Johnny Damon
Billy (but not Cal) Ripken

by jch24 on Dec 13, 2007 1:47 PM EST reply actions

jeremy schaap is naming names

everyone put your pencls down

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Dec 13, 2007 1:58 PM EST reply actions

reds one (doesn't count for contest)

i was thinking more about this, and i'll do a reds one:

danny jackson
pete harnish
chris sabo
norm charlton
danny graves
jeff shaw
jeffrey hammonds
greg vaughn
rob dibble
felipe lopez

also, it's kind of fun to go through the rosters and say who?

All on 2003 roster at some point:

John Bale
Juan Cerros
Josh Hall
Mark Watson
Jim Chamblee
Mark Budzinski

2008 NL Central Champs!

by Daedalus on Dec 13, 2007 2:08 PM EST reply actions

early precincts reporting

I think JD might be in the lead with Gagne as his #1.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 2:50 PM EST reply actions

Mo Vaughn

Page 234

Reds: WS Champs 2008... and every year after...

by crolfer on Dec 13, 2007 2:52 PM EST reply actions

Wow....

We got double points for picking out people on our own team, some people submitted entire lists of former Reds, and not a single person guessed Hal Morris.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Dec 13, 2007 6:40 PM EST reply actions

unofficial tallies

ken is the only one who got more than 1 correct (Todd Hundley and Mo Vaughn). As a prize he'll receive a one-year membership to Red Reporter Premium.

ken

JD Arney

cesarhernandez

BLee2525

6
Gray

1
Man Mountain

0
Red Menace
fletch
Fat Vegas Alan
Madville
Brian B
crolfer
boobs
Slyde
jacob brumfield
sidnancy
gnarley
GregD
Daedalus
Paul Householder
The Dude
jch24

I blame Senator Mitchell for these disappointing results. If he couldn't get anything on Brady Anderson he wasn't trying very hard.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 7:40 PM EST reply actions