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RR Mitchell Report Pool

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Tomorrow is the long awaited Mitchell Report Day. Rumors abound that the Senator's findings will name 60-80 current and former Major League players. Here's your chance for wild speculation.

The Rules

List ten players, 1 through 10, that you believe will be "named" (mentioned in any pejorative way in the Mitchell Report). You'll receive 10 points if your #1 name is listed, 9 points for #2 and so on (like an NFL confidence pool). As a bonus any former Reds players will result in double points (so ten points if you had Frank Robinson at #6 on your list and he's named).

Note the list of ineligible players below! Any player who has admitted usage, tested positive, or been implicated through some sort of leak is not acceptable. Be creative and show your biases.

Please use this diary only to post your list of 10. For questions or further steroid talk use this one.

And folks, please just scroll quickly to the bottom and make your list. Don't look at other peoples' picks. That would be cheating on a steroid pool, which is way too meta for me to handle. Also no changing your list with 'Reply to'. The deadline is 2:00 PM on Thursday. Good luck!

===Ineligible Players==

Admitted Users (17)
Ken Caminiti - Steroids
Barry Bonds - Steroids
Bobby Estalella - Steroids and hGH
Jason Giambi - Steroids and hGH
Jeremy Giambi - Steroids
Armando Rios - Steroids and hGH
Benito Santiago - Steroids and hGH
Gary Sheffield - Steroids
Jose Canseco - Steroids and hGH
Tom House - Steroids
Wally Joyner - Steroids
Paxton Crawford - Steroids and hGH
Jason Grimsley - Steroids and hGH
Jim Leyritz - hGH
David Segui - hGH
John Rocker - hGH
Paul Byrd - hGH
Implicated Players (29)
Mark McGwire - Steroids
Manny Alexander - Steroids
Chuck Finley - Steroids
Marvin Bernard - Steroids and hGH
Randy Velarde - Steroids
Wilson Alvarez - Steroids and hGH
Bret Boone - Steroids
Ozzie Canseco - Steroids
Juan Gonzalez - Steroids and hGH
Dave Martinez - Steroids
Ivan Rodriguez - Steroids and hGH
Tony Saunders - Steroids and hGH
Miguel Tejada - Steroids
Lenny Dykstra - Steroids and hGH
Dave Hollins - Steroids
Roger Clemens - "PE Drugs"
Andy Pettitte - "PE Drugs"
Brian Roberts - Steroids
Jay Gibbons - Steroids
Gary Matthews Jr. - hGH
Jerry Hairston Jr. - hGH
David Bell - hCG
Darren Holmes - Steroids and hGH
Rick Ankiel - hGH
Troy Glaus - Steroids
Scott Schoeneweis - Steroids
Matt Williams - Steroids and hGH
Jose Guillen - Steroids and hGH
Ismael Valdez - hGH
MLB Posiive Tests (16)
Alex Sanchez - Unknown
Jorge Piedra - Unknown
Agustin Montero - Unknown
Jamal Strong - Unknown
Juan Rincon - Unknown
Rafael Betancourt - Unknown
Rafael Palmeiro - Stanzolol (Steroid)
Ryan Franklin - Unknown
Mike Morse - Unknown
Carlos Almanzar - Unknown
Felix Heredia - Unknown
Matt Lawton - Boldenone (Steroid)
Yusaku Iriki - Unknown
Guillermo Mota - Unknown
Juan Salas - Unknown
Dan Serafini - Unknown
Non-MLB Positive Tests (2)
Termel Sledge - Precursor (Andro)
Derrick Turnbow - Precursor (Andro)
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My list
  1. Marcus Giles
  2. Brian Giles
  3. Eric Gagne
  4. Luis Gonzalez
  5. Brady Anderson
  6. Andy Pettitte
  7. Aaron Boone (Heck his bro was implicated)
  8. Chris Sabo
  9. Tracy Jones

by cesarhernandez on Dec 12, 2007 10:03 PM EST   0 recs

Oops I forgot a No. 5
For No. 5, lets go REALLY out of left field: Ken Griffey Jr.

by cesarhernandez on Dec 12, 2007 10:24 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

And I'm an idiot
Skipped over Pettitte being ineligible.

So change my No. 7 to Sammy Sosa.

by cesarhernandez on Dec 12, 2007 11:48 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

My list
  1. Ruben Sierra
  2. Will Clark
  3. Brady Anderson
  4. Kevin Brown
  5. Pete Harnisch (Former Red Double Down)
  6. Howard Johnson
  7. Randy Myers (Former Red Double Down)
  8. Danny Jackson (Former Red Double Down)
  9. Darren Daulton
  10. Mark Wohlers
Note: If Rob Dibble is eligible (I think he admitted steroid use recently), I'd slot him at #7, and move everybody else down 1.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Dec 12, 2007 10:18 PM EST   0 recs

Sierra and Wohlers
Also Double Down eligible.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Dec 12, 2007 10:32 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I wish I could name 50
1 Sammy Sosa
2 Brady Anderson
3 Ben Grieve
4 Rich Aurilia*
5 Rob Bell*
6 Melvin Mora
7 Raul Mondesi
8 Geoff Jenkins
9 Julio Franco
10 Glenn Braggs*

by Red Menace on Dec 12, 2007 10:20 PM EST   0 recs

interesting
Joey Hamilton
LaRue
Kelly Stinnett
Wily Mo
Mike Stanton
Brandon Larson

by fletch on Dec 12, 2007 10:44 PM EST   0 recs

No peeking, you peeking asshole.
  1. Ruben Sierra
  2. Greg Vaughn
  3. Jeff Bagwell
  4. Scott Servais
  5. Pete Incaviglia
  6. Dean Palmer
  7. Sammy Sosa
  8. Brady Anderson
  9. Scott Erickson
  10. BJ Surhoff
Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 12, 2007 10:59 PM EST   0 recs

Let's see...
Trying to think of some former Reds here.  May as well double down across the board:
  1. Ruben Sierra
  2. Aaron Boone
  3. Reggie Sanders
  4. Ron Gant
  5. Greg Vaughn
  6. Dmitri Young
  7. Mike Remlinger
  8. Mike Stanton
  9. Wily Mo Pena
  10. Dave Burba
Crap, Guillen is ineligible.  But I managed somehow...

by Gray on Dec 12, 2007 11:16 PM EST   0 recs

Double down
I can't believe I forgot Greg Vaughn.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 12:33 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Well...
I forgot Kevin Mitchell!

by Gray on Dec 13, 2007 2:14 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

#8 is a winner
Stanton is on there.
"Joe is baseball in Cincinnati...We can lose players, managers and coaches, but we can't afford to lose Joe Nuxhall." - Sparky Anderson

by boohiss on Dec 13, 2007 2:11 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

10 out of 300...
Ken Griffy Jr.
Pudge Rodriguiz
Aaron Boone
Brady Anderson
Derek Lee
Jose Rio
Benito Santiago
Kevin Mitchell
Josh Hamilton
Rob Dibble
"Cool Papa Bell hit a line drive right past my ear. I turned around and saw the ball hit his ass sliding into second." - Satchel Paige

by Madville on Dec 12, 2007 11:43 PM EST   0 recs

His name is Rijo
and he's dancing on the sand.

by Brian B on Dec 12, 2007 11:47 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Hey now, WOOO!
Look at that.
Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 12, 2007 11:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Josh Hamilton?
"Herein is love, not that we loved God but that He loved us" -1 John 4:10

by shortstopv2 on Dec 13, 2007 3:40 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Picks . . . here we go
1 John Jaha
2 Ben Grieve
3 Brady Anderson
4 Rich Aurilia
5 Fernando Tatis
6 Ruben Rivera
7 Chris Stynes
8 Matt Stairs
9 Derek Bell
10 Bernard Gilkey

by Brian B on Dec 12, 2007 11:46 PM EST   0 recs

My shot
  1. Eric Gagne
  2. Kevin Mitchell
  3. Adam Everett
  4. Mike Piazza
  5. Brady Anderson
  6. Luis Gonzalez
  7. Larry Walker
  8. Paul O'Neill
  9. Greg Vaughn
  10. Chris Sabo
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Dec 12, 2007 11:48 PM EST   0 recs

Sinners!
  1. Brady Anderson
  2. Todd Hundley
  3. Randy Myers
  4. Mo Vaughn
  5. Chris Sabo
  6. Duane Walker
  7. Tim Teufel
  8. Pete Schourek
  9. Rich Croushore
  10. Howard Johnson

by ken on Dec 12, 2007 11:58 PM EST   0 recs

hmmmm... methinks...
  1. JD Drew
  2. Joel Piniero
  3. Juan Encarnacion
  4. Jim Edmonds
  5. Julio Franco
  6. Jamie Moyer
  7. Jason Kendall
  8. Jose Contreras
  9. Jermaine Dye
  10. Johnny Gomes
Ha! I got through with all "J's" yes!
Reds: WS Champs 2008... and every year after...

by crolfer on Dec 13, 2007 12:16 AM EST   0 recs

Man Mountain

  1. Brady Anderson
  2. Bobby Bonilla
  3. Kevin Mitchell
  4. Reggie Sanders
  5. Glenn Bragg
  6. Dave Parker
  7. Lyle Mouton
  8. Jeromy Burnitz
  9. Kevin Brown

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 1:43 AM EST   0 recs

time to do it
and im proud to say that i did not cheat.
  1. Mike Cameron (R)
  2. Kelly Stinnett (R)
  3. Tony Tarasco (R)
  4. Rickey Henderson
  5. Julio Franco
  6. Chris Stynes (R)
  7. Darren Bragg (R)
  8. Rich Aurilia (R)
  9. Dante Bichette (R)
  10. Mike Hampton
I realize that the problem with this scoring is that it forces you to pick a lot of Reds. I would have liked to add Johnny Damon, Turk Wendell, Armando Benitez, and a few others, but no Reds connection, no double points. Eh.

Anyway, check out Cameron's fucking arms:

They literally look like horses' legs. And he played for the Mets.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Dec 13, 2007 4:46 AM EST   0 recs

looking back over everyone else's lists
was tons of fun with guns. ruben sierra seems to be the popular choice, and greg vaughn. i can't believe you cats aren't thinking about cameron... look at his arms! theyre like fucking elephant trunks. unreal.

im also curious to see how glenn braggs vs. darren bragg plays out. I think i backed a fairly powerful sleeper.

anyway, nine hours until christmas morning. I'll be on here to see how all this shit plays out.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Dec 13, 2007 4:57 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Cameron
Wait, he's not on the list?  Guess not.  He should be b/c of his upcoming suspension.  

I've also enjoyed looking at others lists, even when it's reminded me of the obvious guys I missed.  Lyle Mouton sent me scurrying to bb-ref.  I'm thinking Man Mountain has some inside LSU dirt on that one.  

by ken on Dec 13, 2007 7:50 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Mouton played with Armando Rios
on those Gorilla Ball teams at LSU. He kind of sucked at everything except knocking the holy piss out of the ball.  

I also thought Cameron was off limits. I was thinking of putting Chris Stynes on my list when I went out to the bar, but something happened to impair my memory..

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 11:20 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I've decided to forego the whole list
because I'm going to be late for work and I think all of my picks have been mentioned already.  Instead, I'm just going to give you my one name -

Jeff Juden

is it April yet?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2007 7:45 AM EST   0 recs

My list
  1. Brady Anderson
  2. Carl Everett
  3. Milton Bradley
  4. AJ Pierzynski
  5. Sammy Sosa
  6. Rich Aurilia
  7. Jeff Kent
  8. Pete Rose
  9. Wade Boggs
  10. Larry Walker
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Dec 13, 2007 8:23 AM EST   0 recs

damnit
I forgot Jim Edmonds.  And I've been touting him for PEDs for years!
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Dec 13, 2007 8:28 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Wade Boggs was on the same stuff
that makes me so good at darts.

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 11:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

The Clear
tastes like chicken.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 11:28 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Hard work?
Or stick-to-itiveness?

(I have no idea how to spell that word)

by Brendanukkah on Dec 13, 2007 11:33 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

assiduity
or acid-do-it-y

by Man Mountain on Dec 13, 2007 11:34 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Red Dred
1 Ruben Sierra
2 Ron Gant
3 Mike Cameron
4 Greg Vaughn
5 Rob Dibble
6 Chris Sabo
7 Richie Aurilia
8 Kevin Jarvis
9 Reggie Sanders
10 Barry Larkin (yeah I said it)

by jacob brumfield on Dec 13, 2007 8:29 AM EST   0 recs

Let's see...
  1.  Pete Rose (if he's walk through hell in a gas suit,...)
  2.  Rickey!
  3.  Sammy Sosa
  4.  Brady Anderson
  5.  Jeff Kent
  6.  Steve Finley
  7.  Jim Edmonds
  8.  AJ Pierzynski
  9.  Fernando Tatis
  10. Aaron Boone
Plus, this:

Admitted Users (17)
...
Barry Bonds - Steroids

is of course wrong.  He admits using something that looks like "The Cream", which the feds say is a steroid.  Bonds, however, adimantly denies he knowingly used steroids.

just....wow.

by sidnancy on Dec 13, 2007 9:03 AM EST   0 recs

Tatis
Good play. I'm surprised more of us didn't remember him. Also Mark Quinn.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 10:46 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Mark Quinn is a good one
he holds the record for most home runs by a player whose last name starts with the letter Q.  And he hit two home runs in his first major league game.  Sounds like a juicer to me.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Dec 13, 2007 10:55 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I remember his commercial
for KSwiss or something. It was just him pumping iron. His voice-over said something like, "What do you do when you hit a grand slam in your first major league at bat? Work harder..." He was ripped. And he sucked.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 10:59 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Ok
1.Reggie Sanders
2.Brady Anderson
3.Bobby Bonilla
4.Joe Blanton
5.Joe Giradi
6.Rob Dibble/Prior
7.Mois Alou
8.Jeff Kent
9.Willie Greene
10.Rich Aurilla

by gnarley on Dec 13, 2007 10:28 AM EST   0 recs

Double points for everyone!
1.    Greg Vaughn
2.    BJ Ryan
3.    Reggie Sanders
4.    David Wells
5.    Elmer Dessens
6.    Rich Aurilia
7.    Barry Larkin (I originally thought of putting him #1, but realized since he only played for 1 team the likelihood of him getting ratted out was less.)
8.    Aaron Boone
9.    Dave Burba
10.    Pete Harnisch
2-0 count: one pitch, one zone

by rojosoto on Dec 13, 2007 10:50 AM EST   0 recs

i didn't pick any reds. i don't want to know.
Brady Anderson
Mike Piazza
Dante Bichette
Vinny Castilla
Mike Hampton
Edgardo Alfonzo
Derek Bell
Robin Ventura
Jason Isringhausen
Al Leiter
2008 NL Central Champs!

by Daedalus on Dec 13, 2007 11:37 AM EST   0 recs

You got one.
You can't run from your past forever.
Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 13, 2007 11:40 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

OK.
Other than Clemens.
  1.  Sammy Sosa
  2.  Shawn Green
  3.  Cecil Fielder
  4.  Vinny Castilla
  5.  Kevin Mitchell
  6.  Cliff Floyd
  7.  Luis Gonzalez
  8.  Rich Aurilia
  9.  Brady Anderson
  10.  Kerry Wood
At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Dec 13, 2007 11:44 AM EST   0 recs

Mickey Tettleton and Andres Galarraga
Just because I haven't heard Tettleton's name in a while and that's one large gato.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 13, 2007 12:41 PM EST   0 recs

Is Paxton Crawford considered a Red?
Never go with a hippie to a second location.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 13, 2007 12:44 PM EST   0 recs

I hope I win!
1 Greg Vaughan
2 Josh Hamilton
3 Chris Hammond
4 David Ortiz
5 Solomon Torres
6 Jose Mesa
7 Robert Person
8 Tom Gordon
9 Steve Finley
10 Nomar Garciaparra
'Clutch' to me is the epitome of experimenter's bias.

by TheDude on Dec 13, 2007 1:10 PM EST   0 recs

Just in time!
  1. Sammy Sosa
  2. Albert Belle
  3. Brady Anderson
  4. Chris Sabo
  5. Will Clark
  6. Luis Gonzalez
  7. Howard Johnson
  8. Dante Bichette
  9. Johnny Damon
  10. Billy (but not Cal) Ripken

by jch24 on Dec 13, 2007 1:47 PM EST   0 recs

jeremy schaap is naming names
everyone put your pencls down
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Dec 13, 2007 1:58 PM EST   0 recs

reds one (doesn't count for contest)
i was thinking more about this, and i'll do a reds one:

danny jackson
pete harnish
chris sabo
norm charlton
danny graves
jeff shaw
jeffrey hammonds
greg vaughn
rob dibble
felipe lopez

also, it's kind of fun to go through the rosters and say who?

All on 2003 roster at some point:

John Bale
Juan Cerros
Josh Hall
Mark Watson
Jim Chamblee
Mark Budzinski

2008 NL Central Champs!

by Daedalus on Dec 13, 2007 2:08 PM EST   0 recs

early precincts reporting
I think JD might be in the lead with Gagne as his #1.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 2:50 PM EST   0 recs

Mo Vaughn
Page 234
Reds: WS Champs 2008... and every year after...

by crolfer on Dec 13, 2007 2:52 PM EST   0 recs

Wow....
We got double points for picking out people on our own team, some people submitted entire lists of former Reds, and not a single person guessed Hal Morris.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Dec 13, 2007 6:40 PM EST   0 recs

unofficial tallies
ken is the only one who got more than 1 correct (Todd Hundley and Mo Vaughn). As a prize he'll receive a one-year membership to Red Reporter Premium.

16

ken

10

JD Arney

8

cesarhernandez

7

BLee2525

6
Gray

1
Man Mountain

0
Red Menace
fletch
Fat Vegas Alan
Madville
Brian B
crolfer
boobs
Slyde
jacob brumfield
sidnancy
gnarley
GregD
Daedalus
Paul Householder
The Dude
jch24

I blame Senator Mitchell for these disappointing results. If he couldn't get anything on Brady Anderson he wasn't trying very hard.

by Red Menace on Dec 13, 2007 7:40 PM EST   0 recs

I was going to include Mike Stanton
but after thinking about I figured he was just a real fat ass.
"Cool Papa Bell hit a line drive right past my ear. I turned around and saw the ball hit his ass sliding into second." - Satchel Paige

by Madville on Dec 14, 2007 7:28 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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