NL CY - Any love for Harang?
For the last of these awards diaries I'm breaking format. There's been a lot of consternation here over Aaron Harang's "poor" showing in last year's Cy Young voting (he didn't appear on a single ballot). For my part I've been dismissive of these concerns. The question now is will he get a vote for 2007? The hardware gets handed out on Thursday.
The important thing to remember is each writer only names three pitchers on his or her ballot. I see two locks and a handful of challengers for the Harangatan. The fancy stats are Defensive-independent ERA and Value Over Replacement Pitcher from Baseball Prospectus, and Pitcher Runs Created and Win Shares from The Hardball Times.
Jake Peavy ERA DERA ERA+ IP WHIP K BB HR PRC VORP WS
19-6 2.54 2.88 159 223.3 1.06 240 68 13 143 77.0 23
Peavy should win in a landslide. I would be shocked if weren't named on every ballot. He was first in ERA (any way you slice it, although adjusting for park or defense does lessen his lead), first in wins, strikeouts and K-rate, first in Win Shares and he leads in WHIP, VORP and PRC by large margins.
Brandon Webb ERA DERA ERA+ IP WHIP K BB HR PRC VORP WS
18-10 3.01 3.30 156 236.3 1.18 194 72 12 129 66.1 22
The defending champ was second to Peavy in PRC, VORP, WS, Wins and ERA. He led the league in innings, complete games and shutouts. He too should be named on every ballot. He might steal a few first place votes from Peavy because he led his surprise team to the playoffs and because he threw 42 consecutive scoreless innings in a row, challenging Hershiser's record. It should be remembered that despite this amazing feat, his season on the whole still lagged Peavy's by almost any measure. He might get Shannon Stewart love because his team made their move during his streak.
If we assume that these two will be named on every ballot (and I think they should be) that only leaves one spot for Aaron. The contenders:
Brad Penny ERA DERA ERA+ IP WHIP K BB HR PRC VORP WS
16-4 3.03 2.99 151 208.0 1.30 135 73 9 108 61.7 21
I think Penny is Harang's stiffest competition. He's third in ERA+, VORP and Win Shares. He won as many games as Harang and his ERA looks very pretty. Harang's advantage comes in his peripherals. He pitched over 20 more innings, struck out many more and walked fewer, thus putting less responsibility on his defense. PRC aknowledges this. Will the voters?
John Smoltz ERA DERA ERA+ IP WHIP K BB HR PRC VORP WS
14-8 3.11 3.48 137 205.7 1.18 197 47 18 112 56.7 16
Tim Hudson
16-10 3.33 3.56 128 224.3 1.22 132 53 10 108 59.7 19
Smoltz and Hudson both tallied slightly more VORP than Harang. Timmy was credited with 2 more Win Shares. Smoltz and Harang tied for the league leade in K/BB ratio, but Harang threw 26 more innings. The big key here is that both of their ERA advantages over Harang disappear when we adjust for defense. Is Andruw still that much of a factor?
Roy Oswalt ERA DERA ERA+ IP WHIP K BB HR PRC VORP WS
14-7 3.18 3.26 138 212.0 1.32 154 60 14 110 59.8 18
I still maintain that he's slipping, but he did best Harang in VORP, Win Shares and ERA and its derivatives. And now our candidate:
Aaron Harang ERA DERA ERA+ IP WHIP K BB HR PRC VORP WS
16-6 3.73 3.38 125 231.7 1.14 218 52 28 119 53.8 17
The case for Harang as the (at least) third best pitcher in the league: He's a solid third to Peavy and Webb in PRC. His WHIP was 5th in the league but only Peavy's from this group was better (Young, Hamels and Lilly were the others). He was second to Webb in IP, second to Peavy in strikeouts. His strikeout to walk ratio tied for first in the league with Smoltz's. He threw 2 complete games (Webb led with 4).
The case against Harang as the third best pitcher in the league: He was 7th in the league in VORP (behind every pitcher here). His ERA is really bad amongst this elite group. Before you say GABP, his ERA+ is still last in this group. A better rallying point is the Reds' defense. Harang's DERA jumps the two Braves', is pretty close to Webb's, but still lags Peavy's and Penny's by a good measure. He's sixth in Win Shares, topping only Smoltz. Harang's major problem was giving up home runs. I thought there might be a park effect at work that ERA+ isn't accounting for, but his HR splits are almost identical (15 in 118.2 IP at home, 13 in 113 IP on the road).
I would cast a third place vote for Harang. I think he'll get some this year, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he got shut out again. These were the clear top 7 candidates by my stat-y evaluation, but others could pop up on the ballots. A few votes are usually collected by the top reliever (Saito?) or by a local champion (Hamels, Lilly?)
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All those guys had better years
by buckeye22fox on Nov 14, 2007 3:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
but
W ERA ERA+ IP SO BB HR WHIP
06 16 3.76 124 234.3 216 56 28 1.27
07 16 3.73 125 231.7 218 52 28 1.14
by Red Menace on Nov 14, 2007 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Local voters
Whoever votes for this one, I don't see any reason why they can't give a 3rd place vote to Harang. It may not be an overwhelming argument, but one can be made for putting him there. I think that's enough to get the hometown vote. It'd be a nice way of saying, hey, I think this guy deserves some recognition on the national level.
by Slyde on Nov 14, 2007 8:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's a dangerous way to do things
by jch24 on Nov 14, 2007 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
In all honesty, I don't really care if Harang gets a single vote. I just don't think it would be that big of a deal for a hometown writer to give him one vote so that his name appears in the paper. That's all.
by Slyde on Nov 14, 2007 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like so many other things in life....
by jch24 on Nov 14, 2007 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 14, 2007 10:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is a bit off topic...
CC sabathia wins the AL CY, and I'm already tired of the bullshitting that's going on. "20 wins over 19 is significant?" Whatever.
Congratulations on a great season. Even though Carmona maybe should have won it. :P
by andromache on Nov 14, 2007 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Josh Beckett can cry himself to sleep
by Brendanukkah on Nov 14, 2007 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we had seven fingers,
by ken on Nov 14, 2007 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Harang Finished 4th
by Slyde on Nov 15, 2007 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whoah!
2007 NL Cy Young Award Voting
Pitcher, Club 1st 2nd 3rd Points
Jake Peavy, SD 32 160
Brandon Webb, ARI 31 1 94
Brad Penny, LAD 14 14
Aaron Harang, CIN 1 7 10
Carlos Zambrano, CHC 3 3
Cole Hamels, PHI 2 2
John Smoltz, ATL 2 2
Jose Valverde, ARI 2 2
Jeff Francis, COL 1 1
by Slyde on Nov 15, 2007 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, learn me some more
by jch24 on Nov 15, 2007 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
by Slyde on Nov 15, 2007 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CTR had the Cincinnati vote
I just asked him how the voting numbers turn out. I'll let you know if he answers.
by Slyde on Nov 15, 2007 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So Aaron Harang is...
by Fat Vegas Alan on Nov 15, 2007 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and the best pitcher overall
by Slyde on Nov 15, 2007 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He should have t-shirts made...
by Fat Vegas Alan on Nov 15, 2007 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hell, i want that that tshirt.
"homer bailey: unhittable?"
"i'd hit that."
by andromache on Nov 15, 2007 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pimply face Peavy takes the cake
by jacob brumfield on Nov 15, 2007 5:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The joke award goes to...the BBWAA
by Madville on Nov 15, 2007 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Francis
The Rockies players got really screwed this year, Troy and Helton should of been easy gold glove award winners, Francis should of been 4th in the Cy Young voting, and Holiday will lose MVP to Wright or Rollins.
The Reds have also been screwed, Harang was the 3rd best pitcher in the NL, Brad Penny was the 5th. Penny plays in a bigger market so I should of known better. BP didn't win a GG, Dunn lost to Carlos Lee for a SS award...They should let people like JD, Slyde, RM and I vote for these awards.
by Zach K on Nov 15, 2007 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can't get too worked up
by Red Menace on Nov 15, 2007 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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