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by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

My first post season first
It took a lot of hard work to get here. I was lucky and had great teachers like Slyde and sukr to show me the ropes. I remember OBC saying you have to take 'em one post at a time and he was right.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason...
ZapTV had this game starting at 1:30pm.  

I'm glad it it's on tonight instead.  I'll be wandering around like a lost soul without baseball.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I hear ya
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just how improbable
is the fact that Bon Jovi has stuck around this long, and is still releasing successful material?

by Brendanukkah on Oct 1, 2007 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah
Hard not to like the chiseled mountain types over bloated men of the cloth.  

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow
Kind of impressive Matsui got a double out of that.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 1, 2007 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

"MVP" chant for Holliday
Zach is in attendance at Coors tonight.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 1, 2007 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Suck it Peavy
Bet the Pads are wishing they had Al Leiter available.

...still bitter.  So, so bitter.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 1, 2007 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Senor Spilborghs
His nonunion Mexican counterpart might have been a better option there.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 1, 2007 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I should be careful what I ask for
but this broadcasting tandem seems bland.  At least the Marty and McCarver types get the blood boiling.  

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I was just thinking the same thing
I'd rather hear Chris and George than these guys
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who feels emptyness in the pit of their stomach
watching this game?  

The Rockies fan's are electric, somthing that I have experiance only 4 times.  Wrigley, a Card's Red's game last season, when the Red's were battling for first place, Homer Bailey's debut, and Team USA vs Team Cuba in Havana.

Plus this brings back bad memories from an October night in 1999.  I still stick pins in my Al Lieter and Steve Parrish dolls.  

by justin0070000 on Oct 1, 2007 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL
That poor guy is now wearing his beer.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

All right, I'm out
Off to watch the Bengals get thrashed.  Who Dey!

The Pats, that's who.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 1, 2007 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, boy
This is why pitchers hate Coors Field.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

the sucking sounds you hear
is all the air leaving Coors Field
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

you guys see the guy with the dog in the seats
behind the plate? WTF?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Service animal, maybe?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Must be,
but seems small.  The owner, maybe?  Coors QuesTec?

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't look like it
i think it is a terrier of some sort. Unless it fetches food it isn't a service animal
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are all kinds of service animals these days
There are some that are trained to alert their owners to impending epileptic fits, for example.

Or maybe they allow dogs at Coors Field.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess
lol but I don't like it
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No . . .
wait, now I see it.  A Jack Russell?  hard to tell.

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Six Flags song
sure has gotten some mileage.

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a bigger dog
than it seemed at first.

Now I'm watching the freakin' dog instead of the pitch or the batter.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

"Bring on the Cubs"
There's a fan that did his homework.

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Also former red great Dan Serafini
is on the Rockies roster.  He has only pitched in 3 games.  I still remeber when he made his start for the Red's.  The Red's litterly pulled him out of the Mexican league, to start for them.  I don't remeber who he pitched that game, but I can't imagine he pitched well.

by justin0070000 on Oct 1, 2007 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He didn't suck in 2002 though.
He was actually the ace of that staff.

Dessens
Haynes
Reitsma

were the closet to mainstays they had.  Reitsma was jerked around that season.  He pitched well, and was demoted to AAA.

by justin0070000 on Oct 1, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found 3 starts in 03
and he lost them all, He did get a vulture win against the Phils by pitching one perfect inning.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short outing for Fogg
Buchholz? Is he related to the Red Sox phenom?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

don't think so
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suck it, Peavy
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

wow
when I saw that i thought sure it was from someone other than you
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too
Thought Alan was back.  

Now this is Actober!!

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is it
that when I switch to Monday Night Football during commercial breaks, they're on commercial breaks, too?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.
Just noticed Craig Sager.  But it doesn't feel right without Kenny or Charles busting on the suit.  

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Peavy...
...is no Norris Hopper.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

10-0 Patriots near the end of the 1st qtr
Vrabel catches another TD pass.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

And the Bengals
wasted a timeout on a lost challenge.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep
once it was clear the ball wasn't fumbled into and out of the end zone it was a waste of time
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vrabel
having a good game so far.

hard to believe the Bengals now only have 3 line backers left for the game

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Brady
what a cry baby.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

qb
he got hit on one play and turned to the refs like he had been shot or stabbed
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

somehow
I don't think he'd be looking to the refs if he was shot or stabbed.  ;-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

though
being shot or stabbed is a possibility when playing the Bengals.  Those criminals.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Oct 1, 2007 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?
No one's been arrested this month, have they?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaz Matsui
I wasn't sure he'd ever start again.  He was truly awful when he was a Met.  Many thought he'd never get out of the minors.

I'm glad for him, though.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

that Colorado crowd is pretty quiet
all things considered
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaz
This factor tends to get overemphasized in many situations, but I think the NY pressure did get to Matsui.  He was heavily hyped coming in to MLB - an Ichiro talent with more off-field flair and marketability.  The Mets actally moved Reyes to 2B for him.  

Colorado was a smart move for Matsui.  And I hear the schools are good, too.

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengals score trail 7-10
touchdown whoseyourmama
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Why
slide in head first to 1B?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

it is a rare time that doing it helps
and that wasn't one of them
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

scrappiness? lol
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must say
This game has the worst outfielding I've seen in a long time.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Brady Clark
I remember him being smoother out there.  He's looked awkward all night.

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah
He looks like he'd be more comfortable at Clark, Brady & Associates tonight.

I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Oct 1, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice quote
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That actually...
...looked like a home run to me.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Garrett Atkins
It was ruled a double.  It looked to me like it hit something on the other side of the yellow rail, but they ruled that it hit the rail.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst. Outfielding. Ever.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

lol
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL
Not just him.  I've never seen so many misplayed balls in one game.  At least in the outfield.  

The Colorado winds?  Or just sudden-death nervousness?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

sdn
remember 99?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they're just not that good?
I don't know, I don't watch Colorado that much.  Per JinAZ's sheet, Holliday is above average, Clark is about average, and Hawpe is below.  

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...
Looks like the football game has gotten out of hand.  

But we may be getting some free baseball.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

perhaps we should try....
Todd Coffey and Mike Stanton at linebacker

and let Caleb Miller and Ahmad Brooks pitch the eighth inning.

Nobody listens to Andrew. Wayne... You're Next !

by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 1, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

couldn't be any worse
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

bonus baseball
wish i could get excited about this game
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish they'd explain
what that dog is going there.  Is that the owner and his family?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

do these aguys realize this is a play off game?
they are about the most boring guys i have ever heard
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Watching the Bengals...
Is starting to feel a lot like watching the Reds...
The Reds and the Radio...They're on it.

by chandrathan on Oct 1, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

yes it is
Palmer = Dunn?

Great stats but can't win?
Or is it because no defense = no pitching?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm
Palmer is Harang
Rudi is Votto
Chad is BP
TJ is Edwin
Hopper is Glenn Holt
Justin Smith is Dunn
Peko is Arroyo

...maybe

Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Oct 1, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengals Defense = Mike Stanton
Nobody listens to Andrew. Wayne... You're Next !

by nlt-andrew68 on Oct 1, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honorary AFLAC question
Which Red was the clutchiest this year, in leading the team in WPA?

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Harang?
Or Hatteberg.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow
A-Rod's WPA is insane.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wpa?
We piddle around? That's what my dear old grand pappy called that project in the 30's

I hate being old school

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 2, 2007 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad...
...this is two teams I don't care that much about.  Or I'd have no fingernails left by now.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I figured the nails would be gone
from trying to figure out what was up with that dog.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 1, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mean
the football game is over?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I clicked over to ESPN just now
They were interviewing Palmer.  The text at the bottom of the screen said "4 INT."  Yikes.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn this game is killing me
IT should of been a 7-6 Final by now!!! Stupid umps
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Oct 1, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm here after the inevitable Bengals loss
Here's hoping JoeJessica ends it now with another homer.

by Red Menace on Oct 1, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I want the Rockies to win
in hopes of eventually finding out what's up with that mutt.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Baseball Tonight is doing 1 web gem for each team
In LA Mariano Duncan just pushed Russell Martin back onto the field when it looked like he was going to fall into the dugout after making a catch.

by Red Menace on Oct 1, 2007 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

What would be the Reds' Web Gem?
I would bet it was the Brandon Phillips throw against Pittsburgh in late August.
If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Oct 2, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe ESPN decided
That there is no such thing as the NL Central and skipped it.
If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Oct 2, 2007 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I vote for...
...Hopper putting the ball back in unconscious Freel's glove.  
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they'll put it online tomorrow
They did last year, IIRC.
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by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw it yesterday
It was his 9th Inning Double Play vs the dodgers when he threw it from his knees
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Oct 2, 2007 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

8-6 Fathers
Rockies have a man on second and the heart of the order coming up against Hoffman.

by Red Menace on Oct 2, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Game tied
This game is never going to end, is it?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

8-7 now
Matsui doubled, Tulow double. Still no outs and Holliday coming up

by Red Menace on Oct 2, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

triple!
8-8 now, man on third no outs. Helton up. Hoffman looking very old.

by Red Menace on Oct 2, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

8-8
Wow this is crazy.  Kinda feel for the Padres.  And I'm jealous of how the Rockies didn't lay down after the last inning like the Reds would.

by Brian B on Oct 2, 2007 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Rockies win
But Holliday is hurt.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

ballgame
They must be going crazy there

by Red Menace on Oct 2, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoa
Holliday never tagged the plate.  Ump blew it there.

by Brian B on Oct 2, 2007 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmm....
I think the umpire was tired and wanted to go home.

Holliday should have been out.  

And he slid in on his face.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Just got home
First of all, that was a homerun by Atkins. MLB needs to get video review for foul balls and homeruns already. Hyperventilating Bill Plaschkes be damned.

Secondly, I'm surprised no one pointed out the absolutely Narronesque move of pinch running Jamey Carroll for Garrett Atkins in the 7th. In a one-run game with one out and Atkins on second, you're wagering that it's a smarter play that either Brad Hawpe of Spilborgh will hit a ball that Jamey Carroll can score on but Atkins can't, than to leave Atkins' bat in the lineup for the remainder of a close game. I know Carroll hit the sac fly to win it, but Atkins has been raking lately and should have had a homer on the double anyway:

Atkins season: .299/.365/.848
Atkins the last week: .476/.560/1.227
Atkins last 2 weeks: .373/.429/958

Carroll season: .222/.317/.615
Carroll the last week: .500/.500/1.000 (1 for 2)

Fun start to the postseason, or, I suppose, end to the regular season.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 2, 2007 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

holliday was absolutely
without a doubt, no question in my mind,

out.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Oct 2, 2007 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I 100% agree
Barrett's foot blocked the plate all the way and he obviously never got close after he face planted into the dirt.

by xjjeep90 on Oct 2, 2007 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

stop hedging
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 2, 2007 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday is Clutch at being lucky
I fell Asleep honestly durring the 13th Inning but saw it this morning on ESPN News! Colorodo should beat the Phillies Francis vs Hammels will be a great match up
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Oct 2, 2007 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

couple things
I don't have time to read right now what everyone else has written, so this might be redundant, but...

Did you guys hear what Tim Kurkjian said about the Holliday play????? Yeesh.

Bottom line: The game shouldn't have gone to extras. Atkins double clearly should have been a home run. And they should have known that. They should have known a ball doesn't bounce like that off a PAD!!! A good umpire would have done what I was thinking the entire time--go look! I bet there was a mark on that wheelchair. I was screaming at my TV and I'm not even a fan of either team.

Baseball needs replay, and Tim Kurkjian is a moron to put it nicely.

by greg456 on Oct 2, 2007 7:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Kurkjian isn't a moron
but he certainly comes off as an apologist for all things MLB at times. I love how that ball hit an empty wheelchair. Forget Tim Tebow; Garrett Atkins homerun balls cure leprosy!!
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 2, 2007 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did tk say?
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Oct 2, 2007 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought
it was a homerun, too.  

But the umpires said they reviewed it and stand by the call.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw
Hoffman is a HOF but it seems like he chokes in Postseason or Big games like last nights...haha oh well it was a great game good for the rockies
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Oct 2, 2007 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

just like to point out
how good todd helton is, despite a lack of exposure... look at his top ten comps, through age 32:

1 Chuck Klein
2 Jeff Bagwell  
3 Frank Thomas  
4 Joe DiMaggio  
5 Carlos Delgado
6 Manny Ramirez  
7 Rafael Palmeiro
8 Hank Greenberg  
9 Jason Giambi
10 Jim Bottomley

Klein, DiMaggio, Greenberg and Bottomley are in the hall and bagwell, thomas and ramirez are locks. delgado has a really good shot, and palmeiro would have gotten in had he not juiced. that leaves only giambi as non-hall material, and thats just because his career was cut short by, um, parasites.

helton's worst ops+ the past ten years was a 119 (his best was a 168) and hes done it largely with his ability to get on base... he has a career .430 (!) OBP, no. 10 all-time. other than barry bonds(.444, no. 6), hes the best around at the most important aspect in the game.

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Oct 2, 2007 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha! Check out how A Rod celebrates!
The Reds and the Radio...They're on it.

by chandrathan on Oct 2, 2007 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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