It's Not Adam Dunn's Fault
With all the whining that's gone on the past week on the Reds blogosphere, on the call-in shows, and in the newspapers, you'd think that if the Reds could just get rid of Adam Dunn, they'd be sailing into the World Series.
Sure Dunn hasn't been very productive the last month, but I suspect he's got some sort of a minor injury. His throwing arm, which even though not particularly strong, normally is accurate, however lately his throws have been far, sometimes extremely far, offline. He's also not getting good swings at the ball, and an injury to his right shoulder or elbow could explain his poor throws and his sometimes anemic swings.
But enough about Dunn. Even with a .240 batting average, he's still getting on base regularly, which means he's still helping the team.
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The last couple of days, Reds radio voice Marty Brennaman has been talking considerably about the reasons for the Reds collapse, and what the club might do in the offseason to make the club more competitive. During Monday's series opener in Houston, Brennaman said he thought the Reds would trade Dunn over the winter. Marc Lancaster of the Cincinnati Post, normally a consistent voice of reason among the local writers, countered and said he didn't think there was any way Cincinnati would trade its only true slugger.
But then Lancaster said something odd. He went on to say that the Reds needed to get more guys who could "manufacture runs." I'm assuming he meant more guys like Ryan Freel, speedy white guys who "hustle" and play the game "the right way," whatever that means. Guys who hit .300 but don't draw walks (which Freel does do, by the way) and don't hit for extra bases. Guys like Norris Hopper, apparently, because Lancaster said that was one of the big questions the writers asked Narron during their pregame meeting. "Will Norris Hopper make the 2007 roster out of spring training?"
Don't misinterpret anything, please. I like Freel, and he's certainly proved me wrong about his ability and his value in the past couple of seasons. But you can't win division titles and make postseason appearances with a lineup full of players like him, or worse, overrated guys like Juan Pierre. His lack of plate discipline is a big part of the problem the Cubs have scoring runs.
No, the Reds season turned long before Dunn slumped, or Ken Griffey, Jr., got hurt (again), or before Narron decided to run a sore-armed pitcher out to the mound, or before Chris Michalek, Jason Johnson and Sun-Woo Kim began to pitch meaningful innings. Injuries to Elizardo Ramirez and Brandon Claussen, which resulted in less than desirable starting pitchers taking the hill, certainly hurt, but they weren't the fatal blow.
It should be no great surprise that what ultimately did the Reds in was GM Wayne Krivsky's ill-fated trade of Austin Kearns and Felipe Lopez to Washington for a bunch of relief pitchers who A) didn't work out, and B) weren't all that good to begin with.
Krivsky pulled the trigger on the deal because the Reds limped into the All-Star break by losing eight of nine games. The bullpen, which wasn't all that good to begin with, was really struggling, and something had to be done. But there were a lot of other things Krivsky could have done besides trade away two key offensive components.
The Reds stood 45-44 after losing to Atlanta on July 9, their last game before the All-Star break. But they were third in the league in runs, behind the Mets and Dodgers, and led the league in home runs. Since then, the Reds have dropped to fifth in the league in homers, and are 13th in the league in runs scored.
Krivsky shouldn't have made the trade at all. Sure the Reds were struggling, but it was their first real challenge of the season, and more importantly, Krivsky should have realized that all teams, even the playoff contenders, go through rough stretches.
The White Sox lost 10 of 12 games immediately following the All-Star break, but Kenny Williams didn't trade Jermaine Dye and Joe Crede for Michael Wuertz and Alan Embree. And the White Sox certainly weren't alone among this year's good teams. The Dodgers lost 13 of 14 after the All-Star break, Oakland lost 10 of 11 in May, the Phillies started the season 1-6, lost 9 of 11 in May and went 6-20 from June 8 to July 7. The Marlins were 15-33 on May 28, and also played poorly before the All-Star break, losing 7 of 10. San Diego lost 7 of 9 after the break, the Twins lost 10 of 14 in April and early May, and lost another five in a row (to division rivals Detroit and Chicago) in mid-may to stand 17-24 at the time.
St. Louis, which is going to win the NL Central again, lost eight straight at the end of July and the start of August.Detroit, still with the second best record in the American League, went 10-22 in August and early September, and only recently started playing better. The Yankees, who have the best record in the AL, lost 8 of 11 in June, and the Mets, easily the best team in the National League, lost 6 of 7 and 7 of 9 in late June and early July.
Of all those teams, only the Reds and Phillies traded away significant players, and you have to think that the Phillies would be in much better shape if they had Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle back.
Going back further in Reds history, the 1990 club, which went wire-to-wire, lost 8 of 9 in June, and lost 8 in a row and 11 of 13 in late July and early August. Even the '76 Reds, easily the best team in baseball that year, lost 8 of 12 from Aug. 14-26.
So the moral of the story is, you can't afford to panic and make really bad deals, especially when you're talking about setup men. Krivsky later proved that you can get halfway decent arms in July and August without paying a fortune, by getting Rheal Cormier, Eddie Guardado, and Scott Schoeneweis for little.
It's somewhat worrisome that in about seven months Krivsky has nearly completely dismantled the best offense in baseball (also gone is Wily Mo Pena, though it's hard to complain too much about that trade so far, given how surprisingly well Bronson Arroyo has pitched; Krivsky still should have gotten more for Pena, however) in favor of "pitching and defense." That most overused of all baseball clichés, sounds really good, but only works if you actually have the pitching and have enough offense to be competitive. The Reds, sadly, now might not have either, which is why they've been 28-33 since the All-Star break, and 6-16 in the last three weeks.
Brennaman might be right about the prospects for next year being rather grim. But it's not because of Adam Dunn. It's because Royce Clayton, perhaps the worst everyday player in the big leagues, the four-headed monster in right of Hopper, (a vastly overmatched) Chris Denorfia, Dewayne Wise, and Todd Hollandsworth, and Jason LaRue (2-3 days a week) are just sucking all the life out of the offense. If those guys are everyday players in 2007, the Reds have no hope of contending. It's as simple as that.
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I'll comment on this once I finish reading it.
what the hell does race have to do with it?
If you don't know what that means, then you really don't know a damn thing about baseball. This is about the most asinine thing I've seen about the Reds this year anywhere, and that includes Michael's diaries and the stuff about how Rich Aurilia should be on the bench.
Everyone knows that Freel isn't an everyday player - Lancaster, Brennaman, Fey, even Furball. It was Krivsky's idiotic Trade that forced Freel into an everyday position. Guys like Freel are very valuable when they can play 120 games or so (filling in for guys all over the field).
Bottomline is The Trade is why we have this problem, and race has absolutely nothing to do with it. Anyone who implies that it does makes Jerry Morron look like freaking Albert Einstein. You, sir, are a moron.
to be fair....
by ohiobobcat on Sep 19, 2006 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Race
And who "manufactures" runs? Why, "scrappy" players "who know who to play the game right".
He isn't a moron. He isn't racist (at least what he posted isn't). And notably, he isn't the one who said we need more Freels - it's guys like Lancaster, Brenneman, and Michael who think so.
Take a deep breath, and re-read his comments.
players are called scrappy
pokey never played the game "the right way." he was lazy. phillips? the guy isn't scrappy, he's a natural athlete like craig biggio or ryan zimmerman. there's a difference.
could juan pierre be called "scrappy?" he's not blessed with athletic talent, and prior to this year, he was a "run manufacturer" and was called as such. has he ever been called scrappy? i don't know. i didn't watch enough marlins games to hear it.
by using "white," whoever said it is implying that people who call freel and eckstein "scrappy" are racist. that is the offense i take.
You just proved my point
And you made my point about Pokey and Phillips. Pokey was lazy? He was the best defensive infielder in the league. No one calls Biggio a "natural athlete"; along with Rose, he's the poster boy for "scrappy" (just look at his helmet!)
Finally, again, you're misdirecting your anger - Duck and I aren't saying "white guys are scrappy", or that the Reds need more "scrappy white guys". The perception among baseball fans and commentators is that white guys are scrappy (and like you note above, black guys are naturally talented); the perception among talking heads (I fear) management is that the team needs more scrappy white guys to manufacture more runs.
actually, i can see where they're coming from
It's not an afront to white people, and it doesn't mean that all white people are racist. But there are racial undertones that accompany a lot of what is said, especially when people are talking about athletes. You can't ignore that comparisons are drawn often along racial lines, even though it's usually unintentional.
For instance, if you watch, say, the NBA Draft, almost invariably the white players taken are compared to other white players, and black-black. It's not a coincidence that good white players are almost always compared to Larry Bird before any other comparisons are even onsidered.
And for the record, Craig Biggio and Ryan Zimmerman are rarely referred to as "natural athletes," at least not as much as Brandon Phillips and other black players. Again, doesn't mean those people are racist. Just maybe too quick to make a generalization.
Well
BS
Yes, "The Trade" hurt this team. But it didn't affect the rotation much. I called this team to finish at 79-83 at the beginning. I don't think they'll even make that now. Krivsky inherited a weak rotation and a failing bullpen and tried to fix it. He screwed the pooch, but not fatally.
by Scotsman on Sep 19, 2006 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
to clarify
'Scrappy' has been used
And I will agree I've never heard of a black player referred to as 'scrappy.' It's subtle, but the general message the mostly white male media (of which I'm a part of) sends is that white players are good because they hustle and work hard, and players of color are good because they have natural athletic ability.
Freel and Phillips are both great natural athletes. But if Phillips were white, the talking heads would be calling him "scrappy" or a "hustler."
Either way, Krivsky did what I feared when the Reds hired him: Dismantled an offense in all the wrong ways. First guy to go (for whatever they could have gotten) should have been Griffey. The Griffey albatross contract is killing the Reds now just like that Larkin abomination (3 years, 27 mil) killed them a few years back.
by cesarhernandez on Sep 19, 2006 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Okay, I'm finished reading the post.
Serio.
Play that funky music right!
Play that funky music person of ambiguous cultural heritage!
Lay down that boogie and play that funky music till you die...
(hey,hey) till you die...yeah, yeah!"

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