Hal think its Beattie

by JD Arney on Feb 7, 2006 11:44 PM EST in News

From the DDN:

There are strong indications that the Cincinnati Reds will name Jim Beattie as the team's general manager, The Dayton Daily News has learned.

This is really quite bad news. Beattie seems to be the most underwhelming of all the candidates, and actually seems very similar to Dan O'Brien (slow, deliberate, boring, etc.).

Hal really goes off the deep end with this statement:

One thing Beattle has in his favor that O'Brien didn't is that Beattie played the game. He was drafted and signed by the New York Yankees in 1975 and pitched nine major-league seasons with the Yankees and Mariners, going 52-87 with a 4.17 earned run average in 203 games.

I personally hold quite a few things against Dan O'Brien, but I never once thought his failings had anything to do with his lack of experience as a major league baseball player. And anyone who thought otherwise is, to put it bluntly, delusional.

Hat tip to JinAZ in the comments.

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McCoy's on to something

Pitchers in the modern era with 50-55 career wins and 85-90 career losses:

WINS W L
Bill Stoneman 54 85
*Jason Johnson (Active) 52 86
Jim Beattie 52 87

Stoneman used to be GM of the Angels, so 100% of pitchers in this group went on to became General Managers. It's definitely an important qualification.

by cggarb on Feb 8, 2006 2:58 AM EST reply actions

Not Good

Well.....that about settles it.

Florence Freedom season tix for me in '06 AND '07. The Reds are looking at being competitive 2010+ if this situation plays out.

Does anyone have Beattie's player development record while GM? How were the drafts?

by ohiobobcat on Feb 8, 2006 8:47 AM EST reply actions

McCoy

I'm not sweating yet. McCoy is notorious for getting ahead of his sources. He's been wrong before. He'll be wrong again, hopefully here. A friend at the DDN many years ago told me that the Hall of Famer sometimes, how shall we say, makes stuff up in order to break news.

If anyone is within arm's reach of a grain of salt, I'd recommend taking it.

by dcdanny on Feb 8, 2006 10:18 AM EST reply actions

McCoy

I think you're right about Hal in general, but I don't know about this time. If Beattie is NOT named GM, Hal will remind us over and over that the decision NOT to hire Beattie was made at the last minute.

by Brian B on Feb 8, 2006 10:39 AM EST up reply actions

Fay

Says it's down to two; Krivsky and Beattie

I'm gonna put my money on Krivsky, Hal is just trying to scoop this based on what he's inferring from Castellini's relationship wtih Beattie.

by bobestes on Feb 8, 2006 11:40 AM EST reply actions

GM

I hope it's Krivsky. The Twins operation would be a good one to pattern the Reds renaissance on.
But it looks like Beattie's the man. The support of Castellini's friend Luchinno, of the Red Sox, and the Yankee connection with Lou Pinella point to Beattie as GM. Probably will make it easier for Lou to manage the Reds in 07.

by TR on Feb 8, 2006 12:17 PM EST reply actions