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John Fay Has A Pretty Sweet Job

I'm getting really tired of John Fay. I don't like going after beat writers like some sites do, but I can't help it after reading this story. The headline "Reds not ruling out Aurilia" doesn't jibe with the story (which basically comes to the conclusion that it's not at all likely that Aurilia is coming back), but I'll give Fay the benefit of the doubt since he might not have input on headlines for his stories.

What bothers me is the choice of subject matter. The Cincinnati Enquirer is certainly the paper of record for the Cincinnati Reds, I don't think there can really be any debate with that. Why is the paper of record talking about Rich Aurilia at this point?

It's obvious that the Enquirer is only going to run a story a day (if that) about the Reds at this point in the year, and that's fine. It is, after all, nearly December. But why waste the space on something that's a foregone conclusion? The Reds have a first baseman. They have a second baseman. They just signed a shortstop. And they have a third baseman.

Where would Rich Aurilia play if he were to resign? How could anyone be wondering at this point if Aurilia is coming back when every position the man plays has a starter, and most of them also have backups?

This is one of our 4-5 stories a week on the Reds? John Fay spent yesterday calling Barry Axelrod to find out about Rich Aurilia? Is there really nothing better to do? I'd rather see a profile on Chad Moeller than something this pointless.

Add this to Fay's constant insistence that the Reds have no money, and I'm pretty much finished with the guy. This is why newspapers are dying.

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It's crystal clear Aurilia wont be back, maybe Mr. Fay feels an obligation to the Bad Man.  I'm surprised RA isnt signed yet, especially in this wild economic market.  

Newspapers lost their competitive advantage with the growth of cable television, and later the internet.  It used to be an incredible luxury to have the day's news delivered to one's driveway, especially the sports results from across most of the country.  Not so much anymore, considering anyone can GAMECAST live online free of charge....or join a game thread for interactive feedback.

 

Courtney for President, 2008

by ohiobobcat on Nov 29, 2006 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

Joining a gamethread
Makes you feel like you're not drinking alone.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 29, 2006 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Line of the offseason
I couldn't have said it better.  

Now, I simply look at myself as a drinking fan with a baseball problem, instead of the other way around.

Courtney for President, 2008

by ohiobobcat on Nov 29, 2006 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Question
Do you guys get the same weird looks I do when, during the season, someone asks you what you did the night before and you respond "Drank some beer, watched the game" and then after they ask you what bar you were at or who you were with, and you say "well, there's this blog, and we do game threads..."?

Yeah, I have a feeling a couple of my friends think I'm nuts. I'm waiting for a RedReporter intervention.

Reds fandom: A study in futility and masochism.

by Ash on Nov 29, 2006 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I lost a lot of friends this season
because I was watching baseball every night, but I'm slowly making my way back into the social circle.

I guess it was a good way to separate friends from acquaintances.

winter is boooooooring

by Daedalus on Nov 29, 2006 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha...
I'm just lucky that I have a VERY understanding wife.

I spent the whole summer watching baseball while talking to you guys on here.  She was very nice, and would even help me comment...

I can't wait until the season starts again!

I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.

by chandrathan on Nov 29, 2006 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Less is more, in this case
Hell, I have a lack of friends who enjoy baseball....much less those who could fathom participating in a Reds game thread.  
Courtney for President, 2008

by ohiobobcat on Nov 29, 2006 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Writers don't get their headlines
Very rare for a writer to write his own headline these days. I can't go so far as to say it never happens, but it is very rare.

by dfs on Nov 29, 2006 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

"This is why newspapers are dying."
Amen to that.  I make no secret about my disdain for the state of journalism today, and sports journalism is the worst of it.  One of the worst in recent times is the headline "Reds Get Player to Be Named Later for LaRue" instead of "Reds Trade LaRue."
winter is boooooooring

by Daedalus on Nov 29, 2006 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

newspapers
I think this was a very fair rant. Just last night I read a Mark Sheldon mailbag on the Reds' MLB site from Monday and he fielded a question on Aurilia. He too inexplicably left the option open for a Rich return. I've been hearing a lot or rumors about Aurilia to the Giants. Fay could have dug into that if he wanted present a little information.

By the way another huge nail in the coffin of newspapers was craigslist. The newspaper classified is their most profitable section. Now I couldn't imagine buying or selling something from the classifieds.

by Red Menace on Nov 29, 2006 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

help
Will someone go to baseballthinkfactoy right now and confirm that I'm not crazy.

by Red Menace on Nov 29, 2006 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

about what?
Reds fandom: A study in futility and masochism.

by Ash on Nov 29, 2006 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't get it
It looks like their domain name expired or something.

by Red Menace on Nov 29, 2006 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

baseballthinkfactory.ORG
You know that, right?
Reds fandom: A study in futility and masochism.

by Ash on Nov 29, 2006 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure what you are looking for
I may be missing it, but it looks fine to me.

by Slyde on Nov 29, 2006 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

that's bizarre
I switched to a different computer (mine) and it's fine. I know it's .org and I was following different links, including the first result on google "www.baseballthinkfactory.org" and they all gave me a site selling batting cages.

It's probably some sort of brain tumor on my part. I'll leave it at this.

by Red Menace on Nov 29, 2006 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

you might have a worm/virus
I don't know much about them, but I know that I had one once that embedded itself in my browser.  Whenever I clinked on google links it re-directed to a different site that was quasi-related.  Probably should run some spyware/adware remover just to be sure.

by Slyde on Nov 29, 2006 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

that's what I figured
The first entry on BTF's wiki is "Why has Baseballthinkfactory disappeared!?" so I'm not alone.

by Red Menace on Nov 29, 2006 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

C'mon, man...
You broke BTF. That's not cool.
Reds fandom: A study in futility and masochism.

by Ash on Nov 29, 2006 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I
can't get to baseballthinkfactory.org either, what's going on exactly? Did they seriously get their domain snatched?
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Nov 29, 2006 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Frightening thought...
Mr. Pitching-and-Defense Krivsky's not considering doing something stupid with Encarnacion, is he?
Reds fandom: A study in futility and masochism.

by Ash on Nov 29, 2006 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

In Defense Of
Everybody loves to beat up on media these days (in many cases correctly so) without knowing many of the specifics of how each type operates. For instance, the critique of the LaRue headline is valid in that it is bad, but layout often dictates headline length, thus the "Reds trade  LaRue" headline (equally boring) would not work because it is too short or the column layout would have to be changed. The discussion about old -vs- new media could go on for days, but the problem is that everyone is quick to gripe about reporters who are often forced to operate within the confines of their particular medium. Yes, John Fay sucks. But he knows that a story like this is one of the few left to him because anyone that really cares about this stuff already has breaking news in "real time." He is left  with the scaps from the internet's table.
Why is the reporter asian and George Michael bearded?

by Pinetarfly on Nov 29, 2006 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

i would have chosen
"LaRue's Tenure As Red Comes to an End"

That is the most noteworthy part of the trade, really, him being the longest tenured Red and all.  And that's not boring.

winter is boooooooring

by Daedalus on Nov 29, 2006 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Reds Coverage
The Reds coverage in the Post and Enquirer is horrible.  What I hate about it is, it's mainly 90% speculation and it's not informed speculation either.  John Fay is no different that anyone on this board except he has the cell phone numbers of a few agents and players, but he doesn't use that resource wisely at all.

This is how I assume Reds beat writers come up w/ a story.

  1. Make an assumption (i.e. the Reds payroll will be $70M) don't bother making a lot of effort to find this out, preferably make no effort.  Sure you could call Castellini or one of his friends or whoever and make an attempt to get some information but why get the story all clogged up w/ facts?
  2. Make an assumption (i.e. the Reds have no interest in signing Jason Schmidt) rely on the first assumption to back up this assumption.  DO NOT under any circumstances phone Schmidt or his agent to find this out.
  3.  End your story w/ something like "despite everything I just wrote, it could be all wrong, Castellini might want to spend a ton of money and sign a huge name.  You never know."
  4.  Submit the story and be very proud of a job well done.

by JCH888 on Nov 29, 2006 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

143

GREATER CINCINNATI (OH) --- One hundred forty three players have filed for free agency.  Simple math would estimate each team would sign roughly five free agents this offseason.  The Reds have to be considered very proactive in this current economic environment, as they have signed OF Bubba Crosby, SS Alex Gonzalez, and C Chad Moeller.  Wayne Krivsky is known to burn the midnight oil, and is working the phones prior to the General Manager's meeting next month.  I wanted to pin Krivsky down on what remaining free agents the Reds had interest in acquiring.  I was unsuccessful, as I am only pretending to write a newspaper article and no one of consequence with the Reds would take my phone calls or answer my email.  Even John Allen is avoiding contact.  

Common sense would dictate the Reds would try to acquire young-ish ballplayers with the potential to improve("RISKS") or grizzled, veteran ballplayers with presence and declining statistics("BASEBALL GUYS").  Some RISKS include P Vicente Padilla, P Ted Lilly, and P Tony Armas.  Just about everyone else who filed for free agency is a BASEBALL GUY.

It has been stated that some areas of the scouting inner circle has privately expoused the need for submariners and knuckleballers.  This is an intriguing option, as most major league hitters rarely face either a submariner or a knuckleballer.  The scouts believe the influx of SUB/KNUX will greatly reduce the home run percentage of the opposition at GABP.  

I could be wrong, however, and the Reds could make no moves.  Then again they could sign three name BASEBALL GUYS by mid-December, if Krivsky and Castellini have anything to do with it.  

Courtney for President, 2008

by ohiobobcat on Nov 29, 2006 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

excellent
You should apply for a job w/ the Enquirer, in fact if John Fay reads this board he'll probably copy that article and run it in tomorrow's edition.

by JCH888 on Nov 29, 2006 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

HA HA HA!
Even an article about something off beat like Dunn's last fishing trip would be better than the Aurilia article.

I didn't say it was a good idea.

winter is boooooooring

by Daedalus on Nov 29, 2006 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Alex Gonzalez
Hi all.  Long time reader, just never took time to sign up.  Don't want to beat a dead horse, but just curious why, as the reds seem to have so little respect for Juan Castro, we ever re-signed him to begin with?  I think Alex G can't be much better with the glove than ol' "golden hands"...and Juan seems to have improved at the plate recently.  Even if I'm wrong on that last point, I bet over the course of a season he can hit the same 250 Gonzalez brings.  I hope I ultimately end up loooving Gonzalez, but it just strikes me as money that could have been spent elsewhere.  Any thoughts here???

by Jaybird934 on Nov 29, 2006 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

It's True
You're right, except for the part about Castro hitting better.
Rootin' the Reds home.

by sweaver on Nov 29, 2006 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to Agree
I'm a fan of "Golden Hands" also, why not play him at shortstop? I'm sure he would have come alot cheaper that Gonzo? Is Castro still under contract for Cincy this coming year?
Have You Seen My Baseball??

by RedsFanJoe on Dec 1, 2006 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Castro vs Gonzalez
Slyde made a good comparison here.
http://www.redreporter.com/comments/2006/11/21/10617/788/21#21
Basically most of the fielding metrics show Gonzalez to be significantly better with the glove. Chris Dial had him at 14 Runs Saved/150 games--second in the AL last year. The only advanced fielding metric that doesn't like Gonzalez is John Dewan's and he admits Agon is a good defender. Castro on the other hand is rated -6 runs by UZR. I have no trouble believing that given that he was 34 years old last year and he didn't look like the Castro of yesteryear.

While they're both poor hitters, Gonzalez is significantly better. His OPS+ the past four years were 77, 85, 79, 100. Castro's were 61, 74, 74, 75.

Most damning of all: Castro has played 12 seasons and has never accumulated more than 320 plate appearances--not because he was constantly injured, but because no on has ever deemed him worthy. I think it would be a big mistake for the Reds to decide that at age 35 he's finally a starter.

I don't think the Reds have little respect for Castro. I think they love him, more than most teams.

by Red Menace on Dec 1, 2006 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

John Fay
What's he got to write about this time of the year since our team is not a big spender like the Yankees and Red Sox? Signing .230 hitters before the first of the year is not very exciting. I imagine it's about the same in most baseball towns except the big media markets until we get the first whiff of spring training.

by TR on Nov 29, 2006 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

Fay
I don't care what he writes about, as long as he actually has some information in it.  In Marc's blog at least he asked Weathers' agent if the Reds had inquired about Dotel and Foulke.  

Would it kill a Reds beat writer to inquire about who the Reds are trying to sign from sources other than "Johnny Tightlips" Krivsky?  And if the Reds aren't going to make any significant moves would it kill him to write an article asking why not?  Castellini talked about winning now and winning long term when he bought the team, but how many moves can you point to where's he done that?  Maybe instead of Fay speculating about how the Reds aren't going to spend much money maybe he could ask questions to find out why?  Is it to much to ask for a reporter to investigate and ask tough questions?  In case John Fay can't think of any here's one I've always had.  Why is it that the Reds (Linder era to present) have always used the excuse that the market is too small to generate a competitive payroll yet they are w/in driving distance of Indianapolis (supports 2 pro franchises) and Columbus (supports NHL team) as well as Dayton, OH, Louisville and Lexington.  That's a pretty significant base that could be drawn from, yet to hear everyone talk the Reds play in Mayberry.

Sorry to have gone on a long rant about payroll, but I've never seen one article where a Reds writer tackled the subject and for some reason I always thought reporters were supposed to ask tough questions.

But I digress...

by JCH888 on Nov 30, 2006 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone here...
Live in or near Florence, KY?

It would be cool to gather at BW3's for game threads...

I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.

by chandrathan on Nov 29, 2006 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Palatial estate
Is off Mt Zion. Don't know any other NKY RR's.

by fletch @ Red Reporter on Nov 29, 2006 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Newspapers
The Enquirer has always sucked.  The NY Times is the only paper that is worth reading.  

by neckbeard on Nov 30, 2006 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Actually...
The NY Times and the Enquirer have something in common...

The Enquirer has run stories by John Fay that were mostly made-up facts and speculation.

The NY Times has run stories by Jayson Blair that were entirely made-up facts and speculation.

Don't mind me...just thinking positive and pitching to contact, that's all...

by Paul Householder on Nov 30, 2006 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

One bad writer in
155 years isn't too bad.  The Enquirer is staffed with columnists who couldn't even get a job in the circulation dept. at The Times.

by neckbeard on Nov 30, 2006 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

the Times
Their handling of the Duke Lacrosse scandal bothers more than a dozen Jayson Blairs.

by Red Menace on Nov 30, 2006 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Made me think of something...
"Hey Mom, I find it interesting that you refer to the Weekly World News as, 'The paper.' The paper contains facts."

"This paper contains facts. And this paper has the eighth highest circulation in the whole wide world. Right? Plenty of facts. "Pregnant man gives birth." That's a fact."

Reds fandom: A study in futility and masochism.

by Ash on Nov 30, 2006 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

i rented the documentary on that from Blockbuster
I think it was called "Junior".  It was about the guy who looks just like the governor of CA.
Courtney for President, 2008

by ohiobobcat on Nov 30, 2006 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

well
"Facts are stupid things."  ~Our Lord Ronald Reagan

It's true.  Just ask George Will.

winter is boooooooring

by Daedalus on Nov 30, 2006 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not convinced
newspapers are dying. Changing, absolutely. They have to or they will die.

Having spent 20 years in sports writing, cop reporting and general assignment, among other things, including covering the Reds, I've experienced quite a bit.

By the way, writers almost never write their own headlines and layout often dictates what headlines say.

Too often, fans call up screaming/asking why there has been no story about this particular rumor or that particular rumor. Usually, the reporter has checked out said rumor and found there is absolutely nothing to it. Write a story about each rumor and there will be no place for real news.

As in any business, you have people who are very good and people who aren't. Sometimes you have editors who assigned ridiculous stories that make the writer look like a goof. Sometimes you have a company that owns a newspaper and that company has absurd policies that keep writers busy doing nonsensical things rather than their job.

Journalism is an interesting business, particularly sports writing. It's hard to beat getting paid to watch ball games. I thoroughly enjoyed it, although I like what I'm doing now even more.

by Thundering Turtle on Nov 30, 2006 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

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