Marlins give hook to Girardi
MIAMI -- Florida Marlins manager Joe Girardi was fired Tuesday, a move that had been expected after his rift with owner Jeffrey Loria boiled over in an on-field confrontation two months ago.
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Joe Girardi lost his job with the Marlins, but he produced 78 wins with baseball's lowest payroll ($14,998,500). In fact, the Marlins had the fourth-most wins in the last 10 seasons among teams listed last in total payroll, according to USA Today's salary database.:
Team Payroll* Wins
1996 Expos $15.4M 88
2001 Twins $24.1M 85
1997 Pirates $9.0M 79
2006 Marlins $15.0M 78
2000 Twins $15.6M 69
*=Rounded up.
Girardi lost his job even though he's considered a strong candidate for NL manager of the year. The Marlins had baseball's youngest team and lowest payroll at $15 million, but Girardi led them to a 78-84 record, and they were in contention for a playoff berth until a late-September fade.
The cost-conscious Marlins wanted Girardi out so badly they were willing to let him go with two years left on a guaranteed three-year contract he signed in October 2005, when he became a manager for the first time. At 41, he was the second-youngest manager in the major leagues after spending 15 years as a big-league catcher.
Atlanta third-base coach Fredi Gonzalez is considered the front-runner to replace Girardi. Gonzalez was runner-up in the Marlins' search a year ago after Jack McKeon resigned.
Girardi said he was fired during a brief meeting in his office with team president David Samson, general manager Larry Beinfest and assistant general manager Mike Hill. Loria did not attend.
"They came in and said, 'We're going to make a change,'" Girardi said. He said no reason was given.
"To hash over what happened doesn't make any sense," Girardi said.
Marlins officials did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.
Girardi, an Illinois native and Northwestern graduate, becomes a potential candidate to replace Dusty Baker, whose contract with the Chicago Cubs was not renewed Monday. Two other teams are also looking for managers -- Washington parted with Frank Robinson, and San Francisco cut ties with Felipe Alou.
Girardi said he has no idea what he'll do next season and plans to discuss options with his wife.
His strained relationship with Loria and general manager Larry Beinfest became public in August. Loria subsequently declined to endorse the job Girardi did in his first year as a manager, even though the Marlins far exceeded expectations while playing 22 rookies.
The rift erupted at a game Aug. 6 when Loria berated an umpire while sitting behind the plate. From the dugout, Girardi asked the owner to stop, witnesses said. Loria angrily left his seat and confronted Girardi after the game during a 90-minute clubhouse meeting.
"Obviously, the things I did, whether they were perfect or not, the players responded. We won."
-- Joe Girardi
Loria declined to comment on the episode or respond to published reports that he fired Girardi, then changed his mind. Girardi also declined to discuss his differences with Loria and Beinfest.
"Obviously, the things I did, whether they were perfect or not, the players responded. We won," Girardi said.
Beginning in spring training, Beinfest clashed with Girardi over personnel decisions, and during the second half of the season the general manager was rarely seen in the clubhouse or manager's office.
The power struggle had no apparent affect on the team. The Marlins were widely projected to lose more than 100 games, but instead they rallied from an 11-31 start and trailed in the NL wild-card race by only two games on Sept. 12 before fading.
The Marlins became the first team to climb above .500 from 20 games under. They also became the first team to have four rookies win 10 games, and they set a record for most home runs by rookies with 112.
"People thought we were going to lose more games than any team in baseball, and we didn't," Girardi said. "And that's because of the players."
As a player, Girardi was a member of three World Series championship teams with the New York Yankees. He spent seven seasons with the Chicago Cubs and also played for the Colorado Rockies and St. Louis Cardinals before retiring as a player in 2003.
The Marlins' managerial change will be the eighth since their first game in 1993.
So there are two count them two relevant poles, unfortunately I can only due one the one I won't do: Are the Marlins idiots?
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Obviously...
by Paul Householder on Oct 3, 2006 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess for the ladies it could be left ovary?
by MixFMKyle on Oct 3, 2006 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
by DisplacedFan on Oct 3, 2006 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i voted no
I dont mean to demean everything managers do, and i can hear the debate now: The rookies couldnt have performed to the level they did without the proper motivation. Mangers do do some stuff, but they're not nearly as valuable as most people make them out to be. It doesn't take a brilliant baseball mind to keep players focused and motivated, it just takes a good baby sitter. As far as situationals, most managers now of the old baseball guard prescribe to old baseball rules that are inefficient, and therefor dont do a good job in general.
Im sure there will be very few people who agree with me. But in general, all a manager has to do is make sure his best team is out there most of the time and let his players do the work.
by boobs on Oct 3, 2006 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
all that being said,
by boobs on Oct 3, 2006 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
As for Girardi, I'm not that infatuated with him. I think the Marlins probably have the most raw talent of any team in the NL, if not the Majors. Based on the roster he had, he didn't have a whole lot of decisions to make. He played the young guys because that's all he had to play, but they are so talented that the results were very good.
He's probably a better manager than Narron, but that's not saying much. I just don't think he would come in and do anything better with the same roster that Narron had. A lot of the mistakes that a manager makes are because of the talent his has at his disposal.
by Slyde on Oct 3, 2006 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Narron
It's hard to gauge a manager when you don't watch him work every night. (I know a lot of people at vivaelbirdos get pissed at LaRussa.) I haven't watched the Marlins nearly enough to make a decision on Girardi, but I'd rather see the Reds bring in a manager who is a proven winner, who is going to get respect in the clubhouse and who is smart enough to know that Ryan Franklin isn't an 8th inning setup man.
by JCH888 on Oct 3, 2006 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Managers
by ewquinn on Oct 3, 2006 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did anyone notice the pun in the title?
by Daedalus on Oct 3, 2006 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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