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   Earlier this year I drove west from New York to Cincinatti, by way of Cleveland, and Detroit, to see the Reds play an inter-league game against the Indians (it was in this game that Danny Graves had his meltdown and was then designated for assignment).

   Time allowed me to take in the ballpark tour, which was pretty damn good. I really enjoyed the Reds Hall of Fame: that is without a doubt the best collection of team history that I have seen to date (and I've been to 26 ballparks so far).

  If you are a hometown fan, get inside there and check it out (if you haven't yet). You can hit, or pitch, or just walk through and soak up the history.

  The ballpark is pretty damn good. I loved the SRO area near center field, which allowed me to get some pretty tight photos of Ken Griffey.   The statue arrangement that you guys have there is pretty good too. I like the fact that they are involved with each other within the display. The statues at Minute Maid Park also interact (Biggio throwing to Jeff Bagwell).   Hopefully I 'll be able to revisit in the not too distant future and get a better feel for GABP.   

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Spike
That's an interesting website you have there.

Spike's Website

Very cool pictures.

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Aug 16, 2005 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Better
Even better link:

Link to GAB pictures

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Aug 16, 2005 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

GABP
I wish I had your optimism about our park.  The park is only slightly different than Riverfront - RF and LF up against the walls.  Nothing about it make it stand out, its a plain jane when it SHOULD have been so much more.

by Pinski on Aug 16, 2005 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah
It could have been more, and it disappointed me a little too.  But at the end of the day it's a decent place to watch a game, which I guess I'll take.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

by JD Arney on Aug 16, 2005 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

GABP Addendum
   Okay...GABP could have been a wee bit bolder in design. Or maybe its the red colored seats (but you're the REDS, and you've got to be RED) that in my mind, are slightly...hmmmm, not so appealing.

   But, I do like this park! You guys, your SRO area is a great vantage point to hang out for a while, and watch Griffey up close.

  For me, an outsider, to pay a visit to see him (in the game, and on the field so close) was very cool. I had seen him at Shea Stadium, but mainly through the lens of my telephoto 170-500mm.

   Yes...you guys are probably weary of seeing him, all the time, he has a reputation for being...not so approachable and lacks good standing with the fans. But he will still go to the Hall of Fame one day. And he'll go as a Red.

   Years from now, when hes inducted, you'll remember plays that he made in the field, or balls that he pounded over the fence. Value him despite everything. What if he was traded, as has been talked about? Then, he'd be gone....

   Remember...it can always be worse. You could have a cookie cutter still! Or, maybe you'd like to have Riverfront Stadium back?

   Thanks for the nice comments regarding my photographs....

by Spike @ Red Reporter on Aug 17, 2005 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Ease up....
I, too, was less than thrilled with GABP the first season it opened.  It took a college buddy's extremely high opinion of GABP to sway me over.  He is from Cleveland and a Tribe season ticket holder.  We have enjoyed many games in Municipal Stadium and Jacobs Field.  Please understand I absolutely love Jacobs, and have since it was built.  

My friend says there is no comparison whatsoever.  He believes the lower seating bowl at GABP is the best in baseball, and the concourse area is the tops also. He was impressed with the main entrance amongst the statues, although the HOF was not open at the time of his visit last season. The river view is a plus, as is the Moon Deck in right.    

I slowly began to warm on GABP afterwards.  The Machine Room is a great attribute on a steamy summer night.  The kids playzone is pretty decent, as it occupies the tots for almost an hour each trip. I still greatly prefer to sit in the lower bowl. The left field wall scoreboard is a nice touch.  

Negatives include the hideous Mountain Dew clock in the main scoreboard, the smokestacks spitting out smoke which obstructs the playing field afterwards, all the bells and whistles like the T-shirt tosses/loud music between innings/etc.  

I went to a Florence Freedom game this past week and was blown away by the sounds of old time baseball.  I heard the outfielders calling each other off flyballs, and at one point you could hear a baserunning grunting while trying to leg out an infield hit.  

Give it room to breathe, and GABP is a great place.  Especially if you are receiving free tix.......      

by ohiobobcat on Aug 17, 2005 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Riverfront Stadium
Spike, if you read this post, you have a very nice site with some sensational photos.  Kudos to you, sir.

Now, dissenting opinion from a curmudgeon. <evil grin>  Many or most of you will disagree but that's cool.  I lost on the stadium ballot measures, so I'm used to it.

There was nothing wrong with Riverfront Stadium that a little bit of preventive maintenance and ingenuity couldn't have cured.  The place was consciously allowed to go to rack and ruin.  The concrete was cracked, everything needed painting, heck, even the restrooms seldom had hand soap in Riverfront's last few years (must have been a Marge Schott cutback directive).  It was great and long past due when they finally got rid of the Astroturf and if the "demand" for "skyboxes" was so high, they could have converted the entire former club level (yellow seats) to pamper the jillionaires after the Bengals moved into their nearby extorted-from-the-taxpayers Taj Mahal wannabe.

Thumbs down each for Hamilton County, the Reds and to an extent, the Bengals, for this policy of neglect over the years.

They did it smart in St. Louis (through this year, anyway), having upgraded Busch Stadium and the Dodgers/Los Angeles continue to be wise tenants/landlords when it comes to maintenance and appearance at 43-year old and counting Dodger Stadium.

GABP's is a flimsy eyesore of a boondoggle that will be lucky to survive 30 years.  I question the structural integrity of the upper deck.  There's little to no shade/overhead cover in the place and aesthetically speaking, the joint looks quirky and forced to fit together when it didn't have to be constructed that way - - reminiscent of a 4-year old building with Lego blocks.  I expected far better for my money.

Hamilton County Taxpayer Memorial Ballpark's only saving graces are that the angle of the seats face home plate (more or less) and the seating is mostly closer to the field, if you can afford them or are willing to shell out big dollars to see a generally below average product on the field.  As a Hamilton County taxpayer, therefore a de facto "owner" of GABP, I still maintain that my fellow taxpayers were blackmailed and railroaded into paying for this place and our hard-earned dollars would have been better spent maintaining and upgrading Riverfront Stadium for far less $$$.

Oh and topple the annoying and incongruous corporate-leased smokestacks.  The God-awful distractions belong at a carnival, not at a baseball stadium.  I almost expect elephants and belly dancers.  

Apologies to the departed Bill Veeck Jr.

CFred in Westwood

by CFred in Westwood on Aug 17, 2005 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey...wise words
   Yes, I read your comments and thanks for them! I never made it to Riverfront Stadium (to see the big RED Machine-though I wish that I had).

  Your point about renovation is well made. During my visit I heard comments similiar to yours expressed by locals who were taking the tour of GABP, as I was.

   I see where the desire for an upgrade, something new and shiny with bells and whistles, apeals to people. People who want what the others have (a new ballpark).

   We, this culture of ours, probably does not value that which is mature... dare I write old (like myself at 41 years of age) We want the newest, the latest.

   The new retro-modern ballparks are beautiful, with so many amenities...but they also lack history. New ballparks have no memories of legendary ballplayers on the field. None.

   Those have to be built up over time, once again.

   I see your point....Its well made, and I also understand why the new ballparks will continue to be made, and the older ones will continue to fall.

   Oh...you knoww, the color scheme of GABP was screaming out at me, I felt some sub-conscious image trying to come to the fore front, and now you've stated the obvious: lego building blocks! Wow....

   If you happen to see many games in person at GABP, I'd like to hear any comments you may have about the players, the seating, or whatever.

   I hope to make a return visit next year, or 2007, and information about long time fans (that may want to pose for pictures on my website, is good to know).

   Thanks again for your comments!

by Spike @ Red Reporter on Aug 17, 2005 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh
as I currently sit in Austin, Texas, I would love nothing more than to waste an afternoon away drinking about eight hudy delights in the top six

best deal in baseball

by bobestes on Aug 17, 2005 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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